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30 minutes ago, Old Codger said:

Come on Rovers (i.e. FWaggot and Baldy enthusiastic guy) get a wiggle on and do some sodding deals. How hard can it be to pick up the phone, tell them what you want (for outgoings) what you'll pay (for incomings) and let them speak?

Get a move on. It is the end of January next week.

If someone (Ipswich for example) wants one of our players, write the number on a piece of paper, then read out what it says - whilst speaking to your counterpart at the Ipswich / Palace end upon the tellingtonphone. Then send them a WhatsApp pic of your genitals, followed by a dark message that there will be more of that sort of thing if they don't get their fingers out. Should move things on nicely.

For incoming players, it works like this. You ask your well connected scouting network to identify some options. You pick up the phone to their current club and tell them that if they don't sell said option(s) to us for a knock-down-knacker price in the next nano-second, their WhatsApp accounts will be receiving unphotoshopped and very graphic anatomical offerings in large volume and high digital fidelity, until they see sense and let us have their player for thruppence ha'penny.

Sorted.

Sorry for the lesson in how to do business like a football god. I'm just a bit bored with all this waiting around for something to happen 😞

I daren’t disagree in case i get a bulging inbox to coin a phrase. 😳

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So it it seems Palace have had encouragement from the Wharton family / agent to make a play for Adam and Gallagher is 'frustrated' with Rovers turning down Ipswich bids.

Suggests to me all is far from well in the Ewood dressing room and 'key' players recognise we are going nowhere and want away.  When this happens with a Blackburn born and bred lad like Wharton then alarm bells should be ringing.

 

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12 minutes ago, Mercer said:

So it it seems Palace have had encouragement from the Wharton family / agent to make a play for Adam and Gallagher is 'frustrated' with Rovers turning down Ipswich bids.

Suggests to me all is far from well in the Ewood dressing room and 'key' players recognise we are going nowhere and want away.  When this happens with a Blackburn born and bred lad like Wharton then alarm bells should be ringing.

 

If this has happened.

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5 hours ago, Darwen Rover 007 said:

If Wharton is sold at c.£20m it proves the model of buying, developing young talent selling high works.

In my view for it to work properly at least 20% of that has to be re invested into the team.

Jesus, how low our standards have fallen. 

"It's fine selling our best academy product in a generation, as long as we can keep 20% of the transfer to reinvest into the squad."

I don't mean that as a dig at you, it's just sad where we are these days. We should be the ones in the Premier League selling him to Dortmund for 60 million after a couple of seasons. 

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38 minutes ago, Mercer said:

So it it seems Palace have had encouragement from the Wharton family / agent to make a play for Adam and Gallagher is 'frustrated' with Rovers turning down Ipswich bids.

Suggests to me all is far from well in the Ewood dressing room and 'key' players recognise we are going nowhere and want away.  When this happens with a Blackburn born and bred lad like Wharton then alarm bells should be ringing.

 

Evidence please.

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55 minutes ago, Tugay-is-God said:

Jesus, how low our standards have fallen. 

"It's fine selling our best academy product in a generation, as long as we can keep 20% of the transfer to reinvest into the squad."

I don't mean that as a dig at you, it's just sad where we are these days. We should be the ones in the Premier League selling him to Dortmund for 60 million after a couple of seasons. 

No, we should be the ones in the premier league buying Dortmund's latest hot prospect for 60m.

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The pattern with Rovers when they sell is to allow these bids to go public,  usually in the hope of a bidding war.

They did with Philips , they did with Kaminski 

It's like they are telling Palace etc you need to be quick because others are in.

I'd be shocked if both ain't sold this window.

We are certainly not seeing the "Not for sale" with these alleged bids being rejected.

They clearly want as much as they can get and with a week to go , hoping to extract as much as they can.

 

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1 hour ago, Mercer said:

So it it seems Palace have had encouragement from the Wharton family / agent to make a play for Adam and Gallagher is 'frustrated' with Rovers turning down Ipswich bids.

Suggests to me all is far from well in the Ewood dressing room and 'key' players recognise we are going nowhere and want away.  When this happens with a Blackburn born and bred lad like Wharton then alarm bells should be ringing.

 

When you are loaning out popular senior players who have been with the club since they were kids so you can save on the weekly wage bill and replacing them with random kids on loan on a fraction of the cost you know you have serious problems, and it is inevitable that these sort of decisions are going to have repercussions behind the scenes and around the dressing room. I daresay that this is already happening and is a factor in our nosedive.

The perils of making your recruitment decisions solely on the basis of cost and convenience rather than considering wider ramifications. Save a few quid a week, pats on the back at Venky HQ yet destroy team spirit and annoy the rest of the squad causing further issues.

That's before you get on to the complete and total lack of ambition and professionalism to be found anywhere other than in the head coach's office. Owners a disgrace, CEO not fit for purpose and a Director of Football who, if I'm being kind hasn't been given any real opportunity to prove his worth.

Of course Gallagher will be looking elsewhere. It is abundantly clear that he will be earmarked for release / sale to get his substantial wages off the books as we have with every decent earner for the last 4 years. They lied to us and claimed they tried to keep some of them and made them good improved offers, but I think as time goes by it becomes more and more clear that this was little more than a ruse to keep the fans on side and try to shift blame to the player(s) and not the owners.

Gallagher won't have had much of an indication on his future because we don't even know if we can pay the wages from one month to the next (cheers Venkys), so we are hardly going to be in a position to negotiate terms with a top earner. We are the club that sat back and allowed Mowbray's deal to expire with no communication until weeks after the season ended, that did nothing to keep the likes of Rothwell and Diaz, totally unprofessional, where the manager has no idea what, if any, money he is going to be permitted to spend and so is it any surprise at all that Gallagher is getting fed up being treated like a mug?

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16 minutes ago, JHRover said:

When you are loaning out popular senior players who have been with the club since they were kids so you can save on the weekly wage bill and replacing them with random kids on loan on a fraction of the cost you know you have serious problems, and it is inevitable that these sort of decisions are going to have repercussions behind the scenes and around the dressing room. I daresay that this is already happening and is a factor in our nosedive.

The perils of making your recruitment decisions solely on the basis of cost and convenience rather than considering wider ramifications. Save a few quid a week, pats on the back at Venky HQ yet destroy team spirit and annoy the rest of the squad causing further issues.

That's before you get on to the complete and total lack of ambition and professionalism to be found anywhere other than in the head coach's office. Owners a disgrace, CEO not fit for purpose and a Director of Football who, if I'm being kind hasn't been given any real opportunity to prove his worth.

Of course Gallagher will be looking elsewhere. It is abundantly clear that he will be earmarked for release / sale to get his substantial wages off the books as we have with every decent earner for the last 4 years. They lied to us and claimed they tried to keep some of them and made them good improved offers, but I think as time goes by it becomes more and more clear that this was little more than a ruse to keep the fans on side and try to shift blame to the player(s) and not the owners.

Gallagher won't have had much of an indication on his future because we don't even know if we can pay the wages from one month to the next (cheers Venkys), so we are hardly going to be in a position to negotiate terms with a top earner. We are the club that sat back and allowed Mowbray's deal to expire with no communication until weeks after the season ended, that did nothing to keep the likes of Rothwell and Diaz, totally unprofessional, where the manager has no idea what, if any, money he is going to be permitted to spend and so is it any surprise at all that Gallagher is getting fed up being treated like a mug?

If I were a players agent, I’d be telling them to leave this circus as soon as possible. The club is a complete joke now thanks to Venky’s. 

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51 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

The pattern with Rovers when they sell is to allow these bids to go public,  usually in the hope of a bidding war.

They did with Philips , they did with Kaminski 

It's like they are telling Palace etc you need to be quick because others are in.

I'd be shocked if both ain't sold this window.

We are certainly not seeing the "Not for sale" with these alleged bids being rejected.

They clearly want as much as they can get and with a week to go , hoping to extract as much as they can.

 

Hopefully they go full venkys and totally fuck the deals up landing us without any money to pay the bills.

Bring on administration!

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3 hours ago, Mercer said:

So it it seems Palace have had encouragement from the Wharton family / agent to make a play for Adam and Gallagher is 'frustrated' with Rovers turning down Ipswich bids.

Suggests to me all is far from well in the Ewood dressing room and 'key' players recognise we are going nowhere and want away.  When this happens with a Blackburn born and bred lad like Wharton then alarm bells should be ringing.

 

Why?

It has happened many times before. Dunn eventually wanted away. Duff wasn't born and bred, but was very much Blackburn through-and-through until he very quickly wasn't. 

Even when the club is doing well, heads will be turned by bigger clubs.

Palace are in the Premier League and will not only offer Wharton more money, but the Premier League exposure makes them a much better stepping stone for a move to a genuinely big club for the future - and helps his England prospects. 

We can ignore the reality of being a Championship club. Not only being a Championship club, but a club that Wharton will barely even remember ever having been in the Premier League.

Many on here talk like 1995 was yesterday, it's approaching 30 years ago. 

Of course Wharton would want to at least consider a Palace move. Even if he wants to stay he'd be a fool not to either be flattered by the interest or curious about what he might get.

I've had moments where I'd loved my job, but I would never turn down a job interview somewhere else. Why would a footballer be any different?

There's plenty to be depressed about when it comes to Rovers, but one of our players being potentially interested in a Premier League move should not be one of them. Especially not when he's on a long-term contract and we actually have some control over the matter. 

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20 minutes ago, Eddie said:

Why?

It has happened many times before. Dunn eventually wanted away. Duff wasn't born and bred, but was very much Blackburn through-and-through until he very quickly wasn't. 

Even when the club is doing well, heads will be turned by bigger clubs.

Palace are in the Premier League and will not only offer Wharton more money, but the Premier League exposure makes them a much better stepping stone for a move to a genuinely big club for the future - and helps his England prospects. 

We can ignore the reality of being a Championship club. Not only being a Championship club, but a club that Wharton will barely even remember ever having been in the Premier League.

Many on here talk like 1995 was yesterday, it's approaching 30 years ago. 

Of course Wharton would want to at least consider a Palace move. Even if he wants to stay he'd be a fool not to either be flattered by the interest or curious about what he might get.

I've had moments where I'd loved my job, but I would never turn down a job interview somewhere else. Why would a footballer be any different?

There's plenty to be depressed about when it comes to Rovers, but one of our players being potentially interested in a Premier League move should not be one of them. Especially not when he's on a long-term contract and we actually have some control over the matter. 

When the club has come out numerous times stating that they have absolutely no ambition, why would anyone want to stay here?

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