That *was* the January Window

[Mattyblue]

6 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

It’s about Gallagher and a so called big contract apparently.

That’s a big Ipswich contract by the way before we have to coax Rev down from the nearest ledge.

[TugaysMarlboro]

Chelsea after Wharton? £50m it is then.

The Gallagher thing probably explains why he's had a face like a slapped arse in all the recent social posts by the club.

Edited January 28, 2024 by TugaysMarlboro

[Rover8T4]

If Chelsea get involved we are more than likely to get the loan back option we are after 

[wilsdenrover]

4 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

Chelsea after Wharton? £50m it is then.

The Gallagher thing probably explains why he's had a face like a slapped arse in all the recent social posts by the club.

If he is to go to someone like Chelsea the fee needs to take into account the reduced likelihood of us making money further down the line through a sell on clause.

 

[neophox]

Now the big clubs gets in to it as Palace mess with fees... Spurs, Newcastle and Chelsea all seems to want Wharton.

[wilsdenrover]

Just to add something else about if he does go to someone like a Chelsea…

The club must make sure they include loan fees in the sell on clause.

[TugaysMarlboro]

6 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

If he is to go to someone like Chelsea the fee needs to take into account the reduced likelihood of us making money further down the line through a sell on clause.

 

That's why I said 50m

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

That's why I said 50m

I’d possibly go a bit lower to balance out the certainty of the initial fee vs the likelihood of future monies.

I guess you can’t know the acceptable ‘Chelsea deal’ without knowing the acceptable ‘Palace deal’.

I’d much prefer he stayed though.

Edited January 28, 2024 by wilsdenrover

[TugaysMarlboro]

2 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I’d possibly go a bit lower to balance out the certainty of the initial fee vs the likelihood of future monies.

I guess you can’t know the acceptable ‘Chelsea deal’ without knowing the acceptable ‘Palace deal’.

I’d much prefer he stayed though.

50m was tongue in cheek, it was though an agreement with your point that if he goes to a 'big club' then we should be asking for more because as you stated, any potential monies from a sell on are reduced.

My preference would be for the latter too. I was hoping his latest contract meant we'd possibly get next season from him as well.

[KentExile]

14 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

If he is to go to someone like Chelsea the fee needs to take into account the reduced likelihood of us making money further down the line through a sell on clause.

 

Spot on

The truth is, we do not want Adam Wharton to move to a "destination club" where he will stay and play for the rest of his career.  We may be able to ask for more than 25M if that is the case, but probably not that much more at this stage or in the summer.

The ideal scenario is Dortmund, Brighton or similar (Palace will do at a stretch) for £25M and a healthy sell on fee, and then for him to move to a European giant in 2-3 years time for circa £100M

[chaddyrovers]

If we do sign Phillips on loan he will add some experience and height to then defensive. O'Riordan will also add height to the team. Hopefully we can add at least 2 more. Pacey winger and striker being the targets. Then Wharton replacement if he does leave and not loan back. 

I still think Markanday and Ennis will leave on loan in this window. 

 

39 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

It’s about Gallagher and a so called big contract apparently.

I think this Gallagher transfer will get done before the deadline if we sign a quality striker to come in. Nixon linking us to Swansea striker Jerry Yates

 

Would be delighted if we sign Yates 

[islander200]

Can't see Wharton wanting to join Chelsea.The lad wants to be playing 

[davulsukur]

44 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

That’s a big Ipswich contract by the way before we have to coax Rev down from the nearest ledge.

Wait, what? Ipswich are offering Sam Gallagher a 7 year contract? 

Through till he's 35? 

Why would they do that?!?

Edited January 28, 2024 by davulsukur

[islander200]

Id sell Gallagher if Yates can be brought in with the money 

[islander200]

4 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Wait, what? Ipswich are offering Sam Gallagher a 7 year contract? 

Throwing the till he's 35? 

Why would they do that?!?

It's 3 years he being offered 

[BankEnd Rover]

6 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Spot on

The truth is, we do not want Adam Wharton to move to a "destination club" where he will stay and play for the rest of his career.  We may be able to ask for more than 25M if that is the case, but probably not that much more at this stage or in the summer.

The ideal scenario is Dortmund, Brighton or similar (Palace will do at a stretch) for £25M and a healthy sell on fee, and then for him to move to a European giant in 2-3 years time for circa £100M

But then you could look at it the other way. Wharton could go to the Prem and he may fail badly…There may be nothing in the sell on fee anyway because he could end up coming back to the top end of the championship after Numerous loans.

At least with Chelsea we could get a lot more money ‘now’. It’s a tough decision.

[alex l]

8 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Spot on

The truth is, we do not want Adam Wharton to move to a "destination club" where he will stay and play for the rest of his career.  We may be able to ask for more than 25M if that is the case, but probably not that much more at this stage or in the summer.

The ideal scenario is Dortmund, Brighton or similar (Palace will do at a stretch) for £25M and a healthy sell on fee, and then for him to move to a European giant in 2-3 years time for circa £100M

Sell on fees would be replaced by achievement fees i.e. international caps or more realistically, euro qualification and competition wins. 

[Mattyblue]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

Can't see Wharton wanting to join Chelsea.The lad wants to be playing 

He’ll be sent on loan to play… but after trebling (quadrupling?) his wages. 

It’s the modern game with the ‘big 6’ who just pile up young lads.

 

[BankEnd Rover]

Selling Gallagher and getting in Yates would be great work from the club. 

[davulsukur]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

It's 3 years he being offered 

Phew, thought the world had gone (even more) mental for a moment then

[KentExile]

6 minutes ago, alex l said:

Sell on fees would be replaced by achievement fees i.e. international caps or more realistically, euro qualification and competition wins. 

Fair comment, I blame a lack of coffee for me not thinking of that lol

[wilsdenrover]

5 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

But then you could look at it the other way. Wharton could go to the Prem and he may fail badly…There may be nothing in the sell on fee anyway because he could end up coming back to the top end of the championship after Numerous loans.

At least with Chelsea we could get a lot more money ‘now’. It’s a tough decision.

Yes, it’s working out at what stage x is a better option than y + possible z.

Fortunately we’ll have some of the best brains working on this 🙄

[wilsdenrover]

7 minutes ago, alex l said:

Sell on fees would be replaced by achievement fees i.e. international caps or more realistically, euro qualification and competition wins. 

Great point 

[G Somerset Rover]

As one or two others have said, I’d imagine if Chelsea sign him he’d be back out on loan (us hopefully) for at least the next six months.

He had a fantastic game against them in the Cup - I sat with a couple of Chelsea mates and they were so impressed. 

[Ricky]

We need to include loan fees as part of the sell on for Wharton as a club like Chelsea could recoup a fair chunk of what they pay for him with 3 loans. 

On the Yates thing, I wanted us to go for him when he left Blackpool so I’d be happy with him as a Gallagher replacement.