simongarnerisgod Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 everton supposedly in for adam wharton,quoted as 10/15 million and a loan back he`s certainly not looked the same player this season mainly down to being closed down quicker,which you expect,im`e concerned about his mobility off the ball,he does`nt look to interested imo Quote
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roversfan99 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 As if Everton have that sort of money to spend on a player that wouldnt join immediately. Plus why would they come in September. Quote
Displaced Rover Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 15 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: everton supposedly in for adam wharton,quoted as 10/15 million and a loan back he`s certainly not looked the same player this season mainly down to being closed down quicker,which you expect,im`e concerned about his mobility off the ball,he does`nt look to interested imo Based on the way he’s played this season I’d bite their hand off at that money 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 4 minutes ago, Displaced Rover said: Based on the way he’s played this season I’d bite their hand off at that money i thought he`d push on and absolutely stand out like a future international this season,it has`nt happened and for the first time i`me wondering if he`s got an attitude problem,especially when it comes to issues off the ball,he does`nt seem to want it back,content to wait for others to do the work for him,im`e leaning towards taking the cash if the offer is serious,jdt with 15 million quid to spend is tempting(thats if the indians and swag don`t take it all off him) Quote
ben_the_beast Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Don't we need money first? Considering we couldn't scrape the pennies together for a cheap loan on deadline day even whilst loaning out Buckley, I'd say this thread is pretty redundant. Quote
roversfan99 Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 Hes being left exposed in a gung ho system where only he is expected to protect 2 centre backs in front of a shit keeper with everyone else up the pitch. 3 Quote
DeeCee Posted September 26, 2023 Posted September 26, 2023 10 hours ago, windymiller7 said: Offer him a "pay as you play" deal. He's currently earning nothing & wants to prove himself, if he's a crock, it costs us nothing. Surely got to be worth a phone call (not that it will happen). Someone of his ability & experience could rip up this league & prove a very valuable member of the dressing room.. On a side note, I didn't realise he was only 32, seems to have been around for ages! Strangely, I thought he was younger than that -because, tbh I'd forgotten about him being a regular prem starter a of couple of years back .🤦♂️ Quote
Torgeir Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 12 hours ago, roversfan99 said: Hes being left exposed in a gung ho system where only he is expected to protect 2 centre backs in front of a shit keeper with everyone else up the pitch. A serious injury waiting to happen the way he's being utilised at the moment. He's the best passer in the middle, while Trav and Tron have their obvious weaknesses in that department. Bucko and Wharton would be a lot more dynamic if we could get one of Trav or Tron to sit back and do the dirty work defensively. Quote
47er Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 12 hours ago, roversfan99 said: As if Everton have that sort of money to spend on a player that wouldnt join immediately. Plus why would they come in September. Doesn't matter what we say, Nixon is determined to sell him! 😩 Quote
roversfan99 Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Torgeir said: A serious injury waiting to happen the way he's being utilised at the moment. He's the best passer in the middle, while Trav and Tron have their obvious weaknesses in that department. Bucko and Wharton would be a lot more dynamic if we could get one of Trav or Tron to sit back and do the dirty work defensively. I think Buckley cannot do what Wharton does, taking the ball in those positions. And Wharton hasnt been very good this season, and at times that includes sloppiness on the ball. But how we currently play is really not helping him off the ball, would be a thankless task for anyone to be a solitary last line of protection of 2 centre backs ahead of a mistake prone keeper. Tomasson has even said he needs to improve off the ball, but he is being naive in leaving him so exposed. 10 minutes ago, 47er said: Doesn't matter what we say, Nixon is determined to sell him! 😩 He has a patreon to fill for those gullible few who opt to actually pay money to read his drivel. Quote
Torgeir Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 12 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I think Buckley cannot do what Wharton does, taking the ball in those positions. And Wharton hasnt been very good this season, and at times that includes sloppiness on the ball. But how we currently play is really not helping him off the ball, would be a thankless task for anyone to be a solitary last line of protection of 2 centre backs ahead of a mistake prone keeper. Tomasson has even said he needs to improve off the ball, but he is being naive in leaving him so exposed. He has a patreon to fill for those gullible few who opt to actually pay money to read his drivel. I agree he hasn't lit the world on fire, but he was injured during pre-season and probably needs a bit of time to get going. Also at 19 he shouldn't be carrying the team by himself. We're creating enough chances and if our forwards had a better conversion rate (all bar Szmodics being shit) then perhaps Adam wouldn't be under such scrutiny. 1 Quote
joey_big_nose Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Torgeir said: I agree he hasn't lit the world on fire, but he was injured during pre-season and probably needs a bit of time to get going. Also at 19 he shouldn't be carrying the team by himself. We're creating enough chances and if our forwards had a better conversion rate (all bar Szmodics being shit) then perhaps Adam wouldn't be under such scrutiny. I'd say we have been through a bit of a 8-9 game experiment which has had some plusses but obviously is unsustainable in terms of goals conceded, and probably we will become a bit more conservative now. This sort of thing happens... I remember the season after Holtby joined Mowbray went for a very high intensity gegenpress at the start of the season which looked really good initially but we started conceding a lot of goals and eventually we changed the setup entirely. Feels a lot like that. I'd say most Championship teams will play 2-3 systems over the season as they get worked out and adjust accordingly. Way we play at the moment if Wharton is marked out of the game we are buggered, and if the opposition are happy to play direct they will create a lot of chances as we only have three players back to do any defending. Think we will change it. 1 Quote
Torgeir Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said: I'd say we have been through a bit of a 8-9 game experiment which has had some plusses but obviously is unsustainable in terms of goals conceded, and probably we will become a bit more conservative now. This sort of thing happens... I remember the season after Holtby joined Mowbray went for a very high intensity gegenpress at the start of the season which looked really good initially but we started conceding a lot of goals and eventually we changed the setup entirely. Feels a lot like that. I'd say most Championship teams will play 2-3 systems over the season as they get worked out and adjust accordingly. Way we play at the moment if Wharton is marked out of the game we are buggered, and if the opposition are happy to play direct they will create a lot of chances as we only have three players back to do any defending. Think we will change it. 100% agree. Been having the exact same feeling. Quote
roversfan99 Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 21 minutes ago, Torgeir said: I agree he hasn't lit the world on fire, but he was injured during pre-season and probably needs a bit of time to get going. Also at 19 he shouldn't be carrying the team by himself. We're creating enough chances and if our forwards had a better conversion rate (all bar Szmodics being shit) then perhaps Adam wouldn't be under such scrutiny. The main issues are off the ball which are predominantly down to tactics chosen by Tomasson. So I do qualify my poor start comment with the clarity that much of it is not directly down to him. He does need to cut down the slack passes but I have faith that he can do that. 1 Quote
Lancs Rover Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 13 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said: i thought he`d push on and absolutely stand out like a future international this season,it has`nt happened and for the first time i`me wondering if he`s got an attitude problem,especially when it comes to issues off the ball,he does`nt seem to want it back,content to wait for others to do the work for him,im`e leaning towards taking the cash if the offer is serious,jdt with 15 million quid to spend is tempting(thats if the indians and swag don`t take it all off him) Is he holding on to nurse For fear of something worse... A poor man's Stevie G? Quote
Blow-in Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 9 hours ago, Torgeir said: A serious injury waiting to happen the way he's being utilised at the moment. He's the best passer in the middle, while Trav and Tron have their obvious weaknesses in that department. Bucko and Wharton would be a lot more dynamic if we could get one of Trav or Tron to sit back and do the dirty work defensively. Not in that much danger of being injured jogging around for a bit and standing watching the opposition with the ball. He looked fantastic last season, but that languid style has degenerated into lazyness as far as I can see. 3 Quote
R0verb0y Posted September 27, 2023 Posted September 27, 2023 On 25/09/2023 at 22:53, simongarnerisgod said: andros townsend without a club,any slight ambition on our part would be out there asking him if he fancied getting fit with the aim of a contract,it`s not as if clubs are queing up to sign him He was one of the panellists on 'Monday Night Club' on Radio 5 this week, pretty well putting himself in the shop window for any club where his child(ren) would still be within travelling distance of their school(s?). No real mention of any footballing abilities to attract any Rovers fan who: i) may have been listening; and: ii) couldn't properly recall him. 1 Quote
Darwen Rover 007 Posted September 28, 2023 Posted September 28, 2023 If we could afford Andros, would take him in a heartbeat, although doubt he would be OK with a packet of smarties each week! 2 Quote
booth Posted September 28, 2023 Posted September 28, 2023 Townsend would bring a few fans back to Ewood too, but with owners and a CEO like ours we don't do inspiring signings any more. Quote
Herbie6590 Posted October 8, 2023 Author Posted October 8, 2023 From Alan Nixon’s Patreon https://www.brfcs.com/magazine/articles/toon-fancy-wharton/459 Newcastle United will make a second bid to sign Blackburn Rovers midfield wizard Adam Wharton in the next window. Quote
CambridgeRover Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 Dont sell unless we get new owners, money would never be seen Quote
arbitro Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 39 minutes ago, Herbie6590 said: From Alan Nixon’s Patreon https://www.brfcs.com/magazine/articles/toon-fancy-wharton/459 Newcastle United will make a second bid to sign Blackburn Rovers midfield wizard Adam Wharton in the next window. Heaven help us. He has started his nonsense early hasn't he. I can't believe that people pay to read his guesswork. 6 Quote
roversfan99 Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 Clearly nothing to talk about for him between transfer windows. Amazed that anyone pays to read his rubbish. He is not at the stage to be playing first team football for Newcastle. Quote
Andy Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 Thankfully it's only Nixon. If it was from a more reputable source, I might worry slightly. Quote
neophox Posted October 8, 2023 Posted October 8, 2023 Devante Cole in January? He's contract at Barnsley is up in the summer..maybe cheap. Knows where the goal is. Quote
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