JHRover Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, bluebruce said: This theory doesn't stack up. If you want to maximise player value and attract bids, you don't reject bids, drop the player and play him out of position. I think it's fairly obvious Travis has been sidelined because he doesn't really have the technique to play the current style, and this has seen him supplanted by Tronstad. This discussion was had on here over the summer amidst claims from some that Travis wasn't compatible with JDTs style or good enough to play in his system. The facts dispel this. He's played more than almost anyone under JDTs management and has been captain throughout. I could begin to consider that Tronstad's emergence may have recently escalated him above Travis in the selection stakes, but the recent stubborn determination to keep him out of the side at all costs, even when options are so scarce, tells me there is much more to it. They want us to believe this is all about football, styles and philosophies. I think it is all about money. The way of getting a player out the door quickly is to put the ball in his court and force him to look elsewhere. The cynic suggests that's what is going on here, as it has happened countless times before under this rancid regime 3 Quote
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roverblue Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 They did the same with Kaminski, dropped him then sold in summer 4 Quote
Beanie01289 Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 40 minutes ago, roverblue said: They did the same with Kaminski, dropped him then sold in summer tbf in this case it's not the first time he's been dropped. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, bluebruce said: I think it's fairly obvious Travis has been sidelined because he doesn't really have the technique to play the current style, and this has seen him supplanted by Tronstad. Tromstad plays the defensive midfielder role the best of anyone at the club, allows Adam Wharton to be playmaker and Szmodics to be attacking midfielder/no 10 we need 59 minutes ago, JHRover said: This discussion was had on here over the summer amidst claims from some that Travis wasn't compatible with JDTs style or good enough to play in his system. The facts dispel this. He's played more than almost anyone under JDTs management and has been captain throughout. I could begin to consider that Tronstad's emergence may have recently escalated him above Travis in the selection stakes, but the recent stubborn determination to keep him out of the side at all costs, even when options are so scarce, tells me there is much more to it. They want us to believe this is all about football, styles and philosophies. I think it is all about money. The way of getting a player out the door quickly is to put the ball in his court and force him to look elsewhere. The cynic suggests that's what is going on here, as it has happened countless times before under this rancid regime Does Travis fit our style of play and how we want play attacking wise? Who is better between Tronstad and Travis at playing the defensive midfielder role? Edited December 30, 2023 by chaddyrovers Quote
Ossydave Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 A bid has been submitted for Szmodics, I don't think it's a particularly tempting club though unless they pay big wages 🥲 1 Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ossydave said: A bid has been submitted for Szmodics, I don't think it's a particularly tempting club though unless they pay big wages 🥲 i heard it was from a la liga side😲 Quote
RoversClitheroe Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 22 minutes ago, Ossydave said: A bid has been submitted for Szmodics, I don't think it's a particularly tempting club though unless they pay big wages 🥲 Who? Quote
Tugayisgod Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 https://c.newsnow.co.uk/A/1211030939?-11198:839 Quote
AJW Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Not a surprise clubs are looking at SS with his goals this season , I just hope we get good money for him and a large chunk gets reinvested in the 2 or 3 positions we desperately need Quote
islander200 Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, AJW said: Not a surprise clubs are looking at SS with his goals this season , I just hope we get good money for him and a large chunk gets reinvested in the 2 or 3 positions we desperately need I just hope we don't sell him. And I dont think we will either 1 Quote
neophox Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Ossydave said: A bid has been submitted for Szmodics, I don't think it's a particularly tempting club though unless they pay big wages 🥲 It would need a a big offer as he is under contract... 1 Quote
booth Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 15 hours ago, JHRover said: People were saying the same about Tyler Morton last season. He's now playing every week for a side pushing for the play-offs. Meanwhile we flounder. If Wharton had got it right last night he'd have scored due to a Morton blunder. Morton didn't impress me at all. 1 Quote
Rogerb Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 15 hours ago, JHRover said: People were saying the same about Tyler Morton last season. He's now playing every week for a side pushing for the play-offs. Meanwhile we flounder. Travis will attract attention from elsewhere because he has attributes of value. That's why he's one of a small number who we have that clubs will bid for and that's why they are intent on forcing him out. I hope people realise by now that the 'replacement' will be inferior. Last season Tyler Morton was playing for a side pushing for the play offs allegedly. They'll be keen for Millwall to renew their interest in Travis 1 Quote
Ossydave Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 41 minutes ago, neophox said: It would need a a big offer as he is under contract... That's why they've done it, he doesn't look happy lately though there's a lot of gesturing towards his team mates. Birmingham have bid, which as I say isn't particularly a good career move but maybe financial, not sure. Quote
wilsdenrover Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 28 minutes ago, Ossydave said: That's why they've done it, he doesn't look happy lately though there's a lot of gesturing towards his team mates. Birmingham have bid, which as I say isn't particularly a good career move but maybe financial, not sure. Why on earth would he go there. Quote
AJW Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 32 minutes ago, Ossydave said: That's why they've done it, he doesn't look happy lately though there's a lot of gesturing towards his team mates. Birmingham have bid, which as I say isn't particularly a good career move but maybe financial, not sure. West Brom too .. bid not come in yet but they are seriously interested and just waiting to see what numbers are involved Quote
simongarnerisgod Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 rovers slap 15 million valuation on szmodics Quote
Leonard Venkhater Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 9 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said: rovers slap 15 million valuation on szmodics Peterborough chairman mentioned sell-on fee a while ago. Quote
wilsdenrover Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Famous last words but I can’t see him wanting to join either of those clubs. Quote
Ossydave Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 45 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: Why on earth would he go there. As already said, it would purely be financial but I don't know what they pay As an aside I'd sell Adam Wharton tomorrow. He ain't gaining value. Quote
Bethnal Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 4 hours ago, Ossydave said: A bid has been submitted for Szmodics, I don't think it's a particularly tempting club though unless they pay big wages 🥲 I’m surprised there’s enough interest in him by this stage. Would have thought he’d interest clubs going up from or coming down into the championship at the end of the season. Leaving now to a Championship club (or lower Premiership, even), I’d be a bit miffed at him. Only club I wouldn’t have an issue with at any time, is going as a squad player to West Ham, given what it would mean to him on a number of levels. Leaving end of season, for a good fee: fair play, he’s contributed a lot for a relatively low outlay and been an excellent example to everyone. Actually think he could contribute at a lot of Premiership clubs, as a squad player/impact sub. Obviously missing some attributes, but he’d be a serious handful late in the game. Quote
Bethnal Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Ossydave said: Birmingham have bid, which as I say isn't particularly a good career move but maybe financial, not sure. Christ, what’s their recruitment like? ”who’s that lad who scored two chips against us? Yeah… he’s top scorer in the league, as well? Banging, make an offer.” Quote
B16Rover Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Isn't Szmod refusing to travel for Ireland due to some unknown personal reason. Presume he doesn't want to uproot his life for that same reason hence contract renewal? In which case can only see local clubs (<2 hrs) being of interest and so it's West Brom at Christmas again, watch your knee Sammie Quote
JHRover Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 Thought WBA were skint and them and Birmingham also under the same FFP rules as us? Or have they found a way around it. 3 Quote
Hasta Posted December 30, 2023 Posted December 30, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, AJW said: West Brom too .. bid not come in yet but they are seriously interested and just waiting to see what numbers are involved As @JHRoversays, West Brom are skint and need the sale of the club to go through to prevent possible administration . They’ve borrowed well over £20 million in the last 12 months just to keep running Edited December 30, 2023 by Hasta 1 Quote
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