That *was* the January Window

[BankEnd Rover]

[philipl]

2 hours ago, joey_big_nose said:

Hmmm... JRCs got himself a bloody good agent if he's gone from a bit part academy graduate looking to be shipped out 12 months ago to our fifth highest earner!

While directionally I think the numbers feel roughly right, overall something doesn't really make sense. 

In total SalarySports adds up to Blackburn Rovers total salary bill is £13,203,840... But that is is massively less than the £24M listed in the most recent 21/22 accounts according to this swissramble article below. I can't see the entire staff and director wage bill being more than £3M absolute tops. So either we've chopped off £8m from our player salary cost (equivalent to £150k a week) since the end of 22 or there's something I am not getting.

https://swissramble.substack.com/p/blackburn-rovers-finances-202122

Rovers employ around 240 people.

The non-playing staff don't live on fresh air. Given the execs and highly trained specialists in the operation, they could add as much as 10m in wages and wage costs (remember employer's ERNI)

[Rover8T4]

1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Good young defender. Would of got some good playing time if he stayed/worked on his fitness. The only downfall in my eyes was he puffed out too quickly and couldn't complete a match

[Mattyblue]

So the revolving door of loans for the next five years begins. Still, he’ll be on a cracking wedge for a teenager, so who cares, ay?

Edited January 8, 2024 by Mattyblue

[JHRover]

He can do what he would have been doing here - playing mid-table to bottom half Championship games - but getting paid far, far more off Spurs than he would have got here.

In addition if he doesn't like it there or he struggles to hold down a place in their team then it matters not because come the summer he can go elsewhere.

[Exiled_Rover]

6 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

So the revolving door of loans for the next five years for him begins. Still, he’ll be on a cracking wedge for a teenager, so who cares, ay?

Yep - as predicted a horrendous career move for him, purely motivated by tripling his wages.

[Ricky]

Could we talk nicely to Bournemouth and get Kieffer Moore on loan? Sunderland interested at the moment. Should have a relationship after Hills loan here. 

Edited January 8, 2024 by Ricky

[dingles staying down 4ever]

20 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Will be known to the new Pilgrims manager, ex-England youth team

[TugaysMarlboro]

9 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Could we talk nicely to Bournemouth and get Kieffer Moore on loan? Sunderland interested at the moment. Should have a relationship after Hills loan here. 

He would be ideal, sadly I think wages would be a huge stumbling block for us.

[KentExile]

3 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

He would be ideal, sadly I think wages would be a huge stumbling block for us.

Oh yes, he would be great to get on the end of all of those crosses that the wingers we do not have are constantly swinging into the box 😉 

Moore is a good player at this level but would be wasted in this Rovers team under JDT

Edited January 8, 2024 by KentExile

[tomphil]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I bet Hyam is on around 15k plus and I would think Szmodics is now after his latest contract extension. Sigurdsson's wages will be around 15k also

I very much doubt that as they both came in on lower wages so no way have they been trebled here.

I'd say a more modest amount of c10k as will Siggy.

That's 3 of them for the wages of 2 of the previous high earners that's how it works here now i think.

[tomphil]

35 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

No surprise there and he'll be plying his trade at this level for a few years yet before they sell him to Fulham or a parachute loaded champ club.

[neophox]

41 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Never impressed me when played...we will see....

[chaddyrovers]

7 minutes ago, tomphil said:

I very much doubt that as they both came in on lower wages so no way have they been trebled here.

I'd say a more modest amount of c10k as will Siggy.

That's 3 of them for the wages of 2 of the previous high earners that's how it works here now i think.

Why would Hyam be on low wages when he joined here? 

 

[tomphil]

2 hours ago, Mercer said:

That's about 180 miles (3+hours'  journey time) back to his missus' lemon drizzle cake.  Twice the journey from Ewood / Brockhall.

Has Mrs Mowbray lost her touch in the kitchen or was 'being so far away from home' just more Mowbray  bullsh1t!?

Just shows how full of shite he really is as when things were going bad at Coventry he was doing the same sob story of being so far away from home.

Some Sunland fans were commenting how weary and fed up he looked this season during their non winning run, he'll not see out 2.5 years at Brum i'll wager anyone on that.  He'll start well then it'll all tail off again in 12 months time and they'll be moaning about him.

Could however get interesting if he does get a big budget.

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, J*B said:

My understanding is Waggott's salary - despite seeming alot - is very low in comparison to others in the league. 

His ability in comparison to them is even lower.

[davulsukur]

Just now, tomphil said:

Just shows how full of shite he really is as when things were going bad at Coventry he was doing the same sob story of being so far away from home.

Some Sunland fans were commenting how weary and fed up he looked this season during their non winning run, he'll not see out 2.5 years at Brum i'll wager anyone on that.  He'll start well then it'll all tail off again in 12 months time and they'll be moaning about him.

Could however get interesting if he does get a big budget.

It's almost guaranteed that he will hit a terrible run of form at some point. We, obviously had no interest in sacking him and just let it run it's course but neither Sunderland or Birmingham will allow it.

[KentExile]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why would Hyam be on low wages when he joined here? 

 

Yep, he was a regular Championship performer with Coventry

Also Siggy an a free will mean he will be at the higher end of the Rovers wage scale, and is anyone seriously kidding themselves that the top scorer in the division would sign a new contract last month on £10K/week.  And as I said before, this would be before any bonuses.

Edited January 8, 2024 by KentExile

[tomphil]

1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why would Hyam be on low wages when he joined here? 

 

He was signed by Coventry in 2017 when they were skint and he came from being loaned out to 3 or 4 clubs so no way was he on big wages there. We picked him up for a modest fee when they again needed money and we just aren't signing players on big wages anymore.

I've seen it mentioned he's on about 9k pwk here now and i'd say that sounds about right there is no way he's on Ayala style money.  He didn't come free, wasn't on 30k before at a big paying club and didn't have much pedigree for higher level football.

[tomphil]

3 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Yep, he was a regular Championship performer with Coventry

Also Siggy an a free will mean he will be at the higher end of the Rovers wage scale, and is anyone seriously kidding themselves that the top scorer in the division would sign a new contract last month on £10K/week

Come on don't be so silly Szmodics was probably on 5k at best maybe 6 when he came here he'd hardly have been on huge wedge at Posh.

I'd say he'd be delighted with 10k pwk plus bonuses now here and who was bidding for him to drive his wage demands up anyway ?

Some people really need to get their heads out of dreamland with this wages lark this is Blackburn Rovers 2024 we are not paying everything double figure weekly wages, not for one second.

Especially not foreign imports that Siigy would be nowhere near here if he wantted 15 grand a week ffs.

[KentExile]

9 minutes ago, tomphil said:

Come on don't be so silly Szmodics was probably on 5k at best maybe 6 when he came here he'd hardly have been on huge wedge at Posh.

I'd say he'd be delighted with 10k pwk plus bonuses now here and who was bidding for him to drive his wage demands up anyway ?

Some people really need to get their heads out of dreamland with this wages lark this is Blackburn Rovers 2024 we are not paying everything double figure weekly wages, not for one second.

Especially not foreign imports that Siigy would be nowhere near here if he wantted 15 grand a week ffs.

Yes, I am sure Szmodics was on about what you say at Posh (who had just been relegated from the Championship with Szmodics far from proven at this level) and he was probably on 10k/week when Rovers signed him

But following the last 1.5 years and especially this season.  His new contract a month or so ago would have included a very significant wage increase.

And look at the wage bills that all clubs in the division post, I agree that Rovers wage bill looks mental!, and its still one of the middling wage bills in the division

Edited January 8, 2024 by KentExile

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, J*B said:

My understanding is Waggott's salary - despite seeming alot - is very low in comparison to others in the league. 

He's practically part time though isn't he ?

I mean how many times is he up here aside from game day ?   And it seems he now only covers half the goings on with GB now in charge of the football operation so i'm sure his role is less hands on that some higher paid guys.

I think we've seen evidence of that aplenty recently when he doesn't seem to know whats going on because it's all let to various other dept heads.

Very smart way to do things when you want to avoid accountability for anything.

[roversinmyblood]

32 minutes ago, KentExile said:

Oh yes, he would be great to get on the end of all of those crosses that the wingers we do not have are constantly swinging into the box 😉 

Moore is a good player at this level but would be wasted in this Rovers team under JDT

He would offer protection at corners and give us a much needed plan B. If he is pushing for more game time in order to be considered for the Euros the cherries may take a contribution only to his salary. Obviously if other teams are willing  pay his full salary then we will have no chance. 

[wilsdenrover]

21 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Why would Hyam be on low wages when he joined here? 

 

Coventry’s wage bill (21-22 accounting period) was about 60% of ours so his salary would probably have been relatively low.

Coventry had just finished 12th and us 8th so I doubt we offered him a huge pay rise either.

Edited January 8, 2024 by wilsdenrover

[RoversClitheroe]

19 minutes ago, neophox said:

Never impressed me when played...we will see....

Me too, Reading away being the game