Cambridge Ticketing Fiasco

[Mattyblue]

  On 21/12/2023 at 18:53, Mike Graham said:

So guys you are having a go at me now.  Lovely stuff.

Expand  

Not at all, Mike.

I’m just asking you to expand on your view. I have seen no improvements in the ‘consumer’ offering in his 18 months plus here, but maybe I’ve missed something. 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mattyblue

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 21/12/2023 at 18:53, Mike Graham said:

So guys you are having a go at me now.  Lovely stuff.

Expand  

Hardly having a go, he commented that you didn't reply to him which is only unfair if you had actually replied but he claimed you hadn't.

[cesus]

  On 21/12/2023 at 18:53, Mike Graham said:

So guys you are having a go at me now.  Lovely stuff.

Expand  

The single worst part of Venkys ownership. Fan vs Fan. 

[Mike Graham]

  On 21/12/2023 at 18:59, RevidgeBlue said:

Hardly having a go, he commented that you didn't reply to him which is only unfair if you had actually replied but he claimed you hadn't.

Expand  

Sorry but I don’t understand the above.

Good try gents but I am not going to get sucked into what will be a tit for tat argument; I had enough of that in my working life to waste my energy on it.

I sincerely suggest you try and engage with the Club.  This Saturday is a good example of that.  

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:03, Mike Graham said:

Sorry but I don’t understand the above..  

Expand  

Convenient.

[simongarnerisgod]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:03, Mike Graham said:

Sorry but I don’t understand the above.

Good try gents but I am not going to get sucked into what will be a tit for tat argument; I had enough of that in my working life to waste my energy on it.

I sincerely suggest you try and engage with the Club.  This Saturday is a good example of that.  

Expand  

i doubt very much the esteemed fraser reid would reply to any of the hoi polloi as he sees us,he no doubt sees himself as superior,judging by his cv

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:03, Mike Graham said:

I sincerely suggest you try and engage with the Club. 

Expand  

Another contributor on here (arbitro) has already said he's tried to do that and the Club wouldn't budge.

[Mattyblue]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:03, Mike Graham said:

Sorry but I don’t understand the above.

Good try gents but I am not going to get sucked into what will be a tit for tat argument; I had enough of that in my working life to waste my energy on it.

I sincerely suggest you try and engage with the Club.  This Saturday is a good example of that.  

Expand  

‘Tit for tat’? I asked you, politely, a very straightforward question and I’m disappointed that you would dodge it. Especially as I’ve been extremely supportive of everything you’ve been doing re Watford.

I’ll ask again, what improvements to sales/marketing has he brought in?

[Wheelton Blue]

  On 21/12/2023 at 18:52, Mike Graham said:

Thank you Simon.  I stand by my comments.  Try engaging with the guy.

Expand  

It's not up to the supporter base to engage with him.

Rather, it's his job to engage with us, the 'consumers', especially over something as fundamental as this 'digital' fiasco.

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:14, Wheelton Blue said:

It's not up to the supporter base to engage with him.

Rather, it's his job to engage with us, the 'consumers', especially over something as fundamental as this 'digital' fiasco.

Expand  

Ah but none of it is his fault, it's ours, we apparently have "staunch habits" ( he makes it sound like heroin addiction) that he finds awkward to overcome.

[wilsdenrover]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:18, RevidgeBlue said:

Ah but none of it is his fault, it's ours, we apparently have "staunch habits" ( he makes it sound like heroin addiction) that he finds awkward to overcome.

Expand  

To be fair, the below does sound similar to the travails of a modern day Rover’s fan…

Psychological symptoms of heroin addiction:

• Feelings of shame, guilt and depression.
• Hopelessness and despair.
• Impaired ability to concentrate or focus.
• Poor judgement.
• Confusion and disorientation.

 

 

 

 

[Gav]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:03, Mike Graham said:

Sorry but I don’t understand the above.

Good try gents but I am not going to get sucked into what will be a tit for tat argument; I had enough of that in my working life to waste my energy on it.

I sincerely suggest you try and engage with the Club.  This Saturday is a good example of that.  

Expand  

Thanks for all your efforts behind the scenes Mike, giving up your own time to try and break down barriers between the fans and the club. It looks like that hard work will bear fruit this weekend with 16k+ getting down to Ewood.

Keep up the good work. 

[Hasta]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:03, Mike Graham said:

Sorry but I don’t understand the above.

Good try gents but I am not going to get sucked into what will be a tit for tat argument; I had enough of that in my working life to waste my energy on it.

I sincerely suggest you try and engage with the Club.  This Saturday is a good example of that.  

Expand  

I’ve also worked long enough with people who bullshit about their reason for doing stuff rather than being honest. It is clearly all about money, if only a ‘test’ in this instance.

You say engage with him, but several people have and yet have just been fed the ‘carbon footprint’ line. No explanation as to why not printing off a couple of thousand tickets is worth the risk of alienating long standing supporters. Just trot the same line out again. 
 

He may have been ultra-helpful in organising Saturday, and fair play to him if he has been. However in this instance he is pissing off supporters by his ‘actions’ and also not being truthful as to the reasons for doing it. It’s just more lack of transparency from those at Ewood.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Hasta

[Mike Graham]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:35, Gav said:

Thanks for all your efforts behind the scenes Mike, giving up your own time to try and break down barriers between the fans and the club. It looks like that hard work will bear fruit this weekend with 16k+ getting down to Ewood.

Keep up the good work. 

Expand  

Thanks Gav.  If the Trust did not engage (along with the fantastic support of brfcs, RoversChat, Her Game Too, Proud Rovers, and South Asian Supporters*) we would probably have been looking at a miserable 11,500 gate.
 

* btw this is a powerful coalition we are building 

[Mike Graham]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:46, Hasta said:

I’ve also worked long enough with people who bullshit about their reason for doing stuff rather than being honest. It is clearly all about money, if only a ‘test’ at tin this instance.

You say engage with him, but several people have and yet have just been fed the ‘carbon footprint’ line. No explanation as to why not printing off a couple of thousand tickets is worth the risk of alienating long standing supporters. Just trot the same line out again. 
 

He may have been ultra-helpful in organising Saturday, and fair play to him if he has been. However in this instance he is pissing off supporters by his ‘actions’ and also not being truthful as to the reasons for doing it. It’s just more lack of transparency from those at Ewood.

Expand  

As a (now retired) National senior trade union official I can spot and smell bullshit a mile off, sorry 5 miles off. Fraser is not one of them.

However you will make your own minds up. 

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mike Graham

[rigger]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:47, Mike Graham said:

Thanks Gav.  If the Trust did not engage (along with the fantastic support of brfcs, RoversChat, Her Game Too, Proud Rovers, and South Asian Supporters*) we would probably have been looking at a miserable 11,500 gate.
 

* btw this is a powerful coalition we are building 

Expand  

Who in my opinion will be totally ignored by the club.

[Mattyblue]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:51, Mike Graham said:

As a (now retired) National senior trade union official I can spot and smell bullshit a mile off, sorry 5 miles off. Fraser is not one of them.

However you will make your own minds up. 

Expand  

I’m willing to have my mind changed. So what has he improved on the sales and marketing front in 18 months?

[Mike Graham]

  On 21/12/2023 at 20:14, Mattyblue said:

I’m willing to have my mind changed. So what has he improved on the sales and marketing front in 18 months?

Expand  

Email him and go and talk to him.  I am not a spokesperson for the Club.  However I do have a lot of time and respect for him.

[Mike Graham]

  On 21/12/2023 at 19:54, rigger said:

Who in my opinion will be totally ignored by the club.

Expand  

At their peril.  In my opinion it will not be totally ignored. 

[Hasta]

Fraser Reid says Rovers are “working with the EFL and their Green Code standard to ensure we continue to make a positive impact where we can to increase our sustainability levels. It’s all about reducing our carbon footprint.”

Ive just had a look at the EFL’s Green Code. Apparently Bristol City are the first EFL club to achieve Green code accreditation.

I’ve also had a look at Bristol City’s ticketing options, which appear to be post tickets out in the mail, or turn up and buy on a matchday.

 

[Mattyblue]

So he hasn’t improved the sales and marketing output of the club, thanks Mike, sorry we had to go around the houses.

I don’t need to go into his office and listen to a load of corporate waffle, I pay my subs to the Trust who I think are doing a very good job in driving ideas/potential policies on my behalf, ideas that I have banged on about for years on here (and I’m sure I’ve bored the pants off posters with). They are actually getting (some) implemented too. So that will do for me.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Mattyblue

[wilsdenrover]

  On 21/12/2023 at 20:20, Hasta said:

Fraser Reid says Rovers are “working with the EFL and their Green Code standard to ensure we continue to make a positive impact where we can to increase our sustainability levels. It’s all about reducing our carbon footprint.”

Ive just had a look at the EFL’s Green Code. Apparently Bristol City are the first EFL club to achieve Green code accreditation.

I’ve also had a look at Bristol City’s ticketing options, which appear to be post tickets out in the mail, or turn up and buy on a matchday.

 

Expand  

First championship club.

Forest Green Rovers were the first EFL club to achieve the accreditation.

They are the only two clubs to have achieved it.

Edited December 21, 2023 by wilsdenrover

[simongarnerisgod]

  On 21/12/2023 at 20:23, wilsdenrover said:

First championship club.

Forest Green Rovers were the first EFL club to achieve the accreditation.

They are the only two clubs to have achieved it.

Expand  

we hav`nt achieved anything that bristol city have in the way of eco sustainability,we are fiddling around banning paper tickets while they are actually doing something worthwhile

[wilsdenrover]

  On 21/12/2023 at 20:29, simongarnerisgod said:

we hav`nt achieved anything that bristol city have in the way of eco sustainability,we are fiddling around banning paper tickets while they are actually doing something worthwhile

Expand  

What have Bristol City done? 

Ignore that, I’ve now read the article Hasta linked to!!

Edited December 21, 2023 by wilsdenrover

[Hasta]

  On 21/12/2023 at 20:30, wilsdenrover said:

What have Bristol City done? 

Expand  

It’s on the link I posted above.

But they haven’t needed to stop sending our tickets in the post.

Edited December 21, 2023 by Hasta