v Hull City (a) - 29/12/23

[RTM08]

Just now, roversinmyblood said:

Playoffs gone. Ensuring safety is now going to be the key. Well done Venkies. 

Waggott's wet dream

[RoversClitheroe]

Pickering out

[sharpysharps86]

What on Earth has happened to some of these players?? Brittain was one of our top performers for much of this season but the drop off has been crazy. Carter, Hill, Moran, etc. have all dropped off so badly.

Not supporting the idea of sacking JDT at this point but this continues to be a deeply concerning downturn in form. Fail to beat Rotherham and it'll be extremely difficult to justify his position as head coach.

[booth]

Just now, Gavlar Somerset Rover! said:

I predicted a death spiral after Leeds on Dec 9th. All too predictable with us unfortunately.

Hard to see where improvement comes from too - unless those dumb tossers in India finally decide to get rid. Sick and tired of it all - as no doubt 99% of us on here are.

I predicted it after that ludicrous statement by Waggott. I'm surprised we've got away with it this long.

[Torgeir]

Just now, simongarnerisgod said:

if you can`t defend then you won`t win many games,simples

Some soft goals given away tonight, that's for sure. A bit crazy to rest players for this one, although we looked horrible against Huddersfield and changes had to be made.

[BigBar]

Just now, wilsdenrover said:

Venkys don’t appear to be going anywhere.

JDT needs to at least try something else.

He won't. Doesn't know how to, we are playing balls across our own box on his say. The players don't have the ability and he is instructing then to do so. That's not a good managers tactics, that's the kind of thing any sensible manager cuts out not actively encourages. Ridiculous.

[gazzaa2]

How can we always have the leagues leading scorer but still be going nowhere in the league?

Rhodes, Armstrong, Brereton, Szmodics.

Another way of putting it, is how long can we rely on having the top scorer in the league to prop us up?

[neophox]

Were in deep shit....4 straight defeats and only one win in december.... at an normal club JDT would had been sacked. But not sure thats the answer..... the problems are higher up the chain...

[matt83]

The answer is it’s been nearly 15 years since last had a decent manager

Just now, gazzaa2 said:

How can we always have the leagues leading scorer but still be going nowhere in the league?

Rhodes, Armstrong, Brereton, Szmodics.

Another way of putting it, is how long can we rely on having the top scorer in the league to prop us up?

 

[neophox]

Just now, BigBar said:

He won't. Doesn't know how to, we are playing balls across our own box on his say. The players don't have the ability and he is instructing then to do so. That's not a good managers tactics, that's the kind of thing any sensible manager cuts out not actively encourages. Ridiculous.

You seem to dislike JDT.... who do you think is the answer as our manager? 

[Torgeir]

Just now, BigBar said:

He won't. Doesn't know how to, we are playing balls across our own box on his say. The players don't have the ability and he is instructing then to do so. That's not a good managers tactics, that's the kind of thing any sensible manager cuts out not actively encourages. Ridiculous.

Everyone plays that style now, no one's supposed to play passes like Hyam does. 

[Mike Graham]

Only 15 points from safety.  Let’s take the positives 😬

[gazzaa2]

5 minutes ago, danger19_80 said:

This Hull side is top 6. What a shite league.

Top 5 is a lock, the other place is anyone's but yet again we're found wanting. Having the leagues top scorer should see you there or thereabouts for top 6.

[G Somerset Rover]

4 minutes ago, BigBar said:

He won't. Doesn't know how to, we are playing balls across our own box on his say. The players don't have the ability and he is instructing then to do so. That's not a good managers tactics, that's the kind of thing any sensible manager cuts out not actively encourages. Ridiculous.

Thing is, we don’t really have the personnel for a plan B. No height, no experience, slow, weak as piss. It’s a very worrying situation. I can’t see a new man getting a tune out of this shower of shite either.

Edited December 29, 2023 by Gavlar Somerset Rover!

[RoversClitheroe]

JDT outs are funny as fuck.

He's miles ahead of Mowbray, he just needs backing.

[wilsdenrover]

1 minute ago, neophox said:

You seem to dislike JDT.... who do you think is the answer as our manager? 

Someone with a plan b (I’m still hoping JDT discovers one)

[yankfan]

10 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

If the manager and the players are to remain the same the tactics need to change.

We’re signing a 20 year old league one player in January. Problem solved 

[BigBar]

14 minutes ago, Spankus Munky said:

That's his remit, he was employed to play football in the identity the DoF wants us to play. The fact we don't have the backing from the shysters in India to be able to do it is not the DoF or Managers fault.

There comes a point were you as a manager and a man full stop say I need to change this style, it's causing us too many issues. It's simply not affective or enjoyable. The one or two moves a game that look pleasing on the eye and wow people are simply not enough.

[CambridgeRover]

Just now, BigBar said:

There comes a point were you as a manager and a man full stop say I need to change this style, it's causing us too many issues. It's simply not affective or enjoyable. The one or two moves a game that look pleasing on the eye and wow people are simply not enough.

But how did this style of play cost us tonight.

We conceded from a corner, a ball over the top and some crap defending. 

We didn't concede from giving the ball away

[Hasta]

Just now, neophox said:

You seem to dislike JDT.... who do you think is the answer as our manager? 

Not that I want him gone, but that’s just the old “If Mowbray leaves who would want to come here” argument again repackaged. 

[pick32]

JDT outs are idiots, he needs players who are fit, a recognised striker and some experience, the squads stretched the players are knackered and the young lads have there heads down. Can’t think of anyone who could come in and turn this around. Need some early doors January business, atleast try and get Gally and Pears back fit and Hedges and JRC by the end of the month 

[DeeCee]

Fucking wank 😞

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, yankfan said:

We’re signing a 20 year old league one player in January. Problem solved 

Phew!

[bigbrandjohn]

First thing any new manager would do is change the system to lock up the defence. JDT needs to pretend he is that new manager 

[roversinmyblood]

2 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

What on Earth has happened to some of these players?? Brittain was one of our top performers for much of this season but the drop off has been crazy. Carter, Hill, Moran, etc. have all dropped off so badly.

Not supporting the idea of sacking JDT at this point but this continues to be a deeply concerning downturn in form. Fail to beat Rotherham and it'll be extremely difficult to justify his position as head coach.

He needs to have a more pragmatic approach in his tactics. Teams just defend deep against us, with a high press and cut us apart on the transition.