v Huddersfield Town (h) - 20/01/2024

[smiller14]

The real problem is upstairs, but I'm growing more and more convinced we would benefit from JDT walking, at least in the short term. The players don't seem to be playing for him, the heads are down, the atmosphere poor. I'm glad he tried to change shape today which at least indicated some sort of care and wish to address the issues, but the same issues persist. We are wide open and it was another very poor result. 

He will do well somewhere, but overall I'm pretty disenchanted with him. A good league finish last year, but there have been many issues. Late throwaways, the surrender at Turf Moor, inability to react to going behind and this season's absolute kamikaze football. He's been dealt an absolutely crap hand but we look completely bereft of ideas and confidence. This defence was much better last year but we have completely departed from it this year. 

[BankEnd Rover]

Let’s not forget our goal was gifted to us. We are creating f all at the moment and our defence is as worse as it’s ever been.

These players are 100% not playing for the manager -  Szmodics fuming walking down the tunnell. Not good.

[joey_big_nose]

7 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Tomasson has given up IMO and is going through the motions until the season ends and he can go. I’m surprised he’s still here to be honest. 

If he's given up he's never going to make it as a manager, hope there's more to him than that other wise he is done.

That said this run and the teams total inability to get back into games when we go behind since he arrived does suggest he is the epitomy of a fair weather manager.

[wilsdenrover]

The silence from our DoF is deafening.

[yankfan]

I didnt see but 2 players who had the quality needed for a championship side. A Wharton, JRC were it today. The other 16 to step on the pitch looked like imposters. 

[nbdrovers]

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

Who’d have Tony Mowbray back?

Birmingham away next month. Should be interesting 

if it was 2017 Mowbray when he arrived here, abso fucking lutely. exactly the type of kick we need.

[bluebruce]

16 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Injuries blah blah blah

the owners blah blah blah

lack of money blah blah blah

poor recruitment blah blah blah

why does Tomasson keep getting a free ride? 

Which of the numerous posters who have asked at the end of this match for him to be sacked are you referring to as giving him a 'free ride'?

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

10 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said:

All this is symptomatic of a club that is owned by a group who are uninterested and dumbing down everything around the place.

 

If you were part of the footballing side you're probably asking yourself, If they don't give a shit, then why should I? It's not excusable, but frankly whatever management team and playing squad are in front of us, over time they will eventually feel the same, as long as Wankytesh still own us.

 

It’s just the same as in any other walk of life. If the top management are disinterested or detached from what’s going on at the coalface gradually the malaise spreads throughout the workforce. That applies to whatever organisation you care to name. Zombie mananagement leads to zombie players and a zombie club.

[SpaceBarSlam]

Watching that backline in injury time and Scott Wharton was the one organising the team.

I have a lot of time for Hyam and think his recent shakiness is down to being rushed back from injury, but a natural captain he isn't. 

[booth]

Some positives are that Pears was an upgrade on Wahlstad. Adam Wharton played well, nicked the ball off the defender and took his goal well. JRC looked decent when he came on but unfit, how we've missed him emerging from his defence to give their defenders something to think about. Hyam was better today too.

We're still playing without a proper striker. The one masquerading as one put in the least amount of effort to defend. The tallest man on the pitch made himself the smallest at the most crucial of moments and it's 1-1.

Then he was downed in the box, a certain penalty, but the referee waved it away.

Two defenders down injured. The one to Carter seemed to really affect us, which was bizarre as we rightly didn't change shape or tactics. Heads seemed to drop simply because Carter got injured.

[jim mk2]

1 minute ago, bluebruce said:

Which of the numerous posters who have asked at the end of this match for him to be sacked are you referring to as giving him a 'free ride'?

There’s always an excuse for Tomasson. You’re one of the culprits 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, jim mk2 said:

Who’d have Tony Mowbray back?

Birmingham away next month. Should be interesting 

Don't. Not even in jest.

He's just been interviewed on 5 live.

Said it was the "start of a journey". I kid you not.

Well, the "journey" he initiated here allowing key players to walk for nothing and spending £5m on garbage like Gallagher looks set to terminate in League 1 or even lower.

[ossyian]

11 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Injuries blah blah blah

the owners blah blah blah

lack of money blah blah blah

poor recruitment blah blah blah

why does Tomasson keep getting a free ride? 

Cos he smiles a lot and has played in the World Cup mitigates the fact that he is a shit head coach. Add in his condescending attitude to everyone who questions him by deflecting his answers to the “new coach”. He wins some people over.  Not me. Fucking clueless. He has no fucking idea how to set up a team not to concede. Oh for Howard Kendall

[RevidgeBlue]

4 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

The silence from our DoF is deafening.

He's just a silver tongued bullshitter that's why.

[martonrover]

15 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Tomasson has given up IMO and is going through the motions until the season ends and he can go. I’m surprised he’s still here to be honest. 

He probably regrets not going in the Summer when they told him about the cuts.

Now, as others have said, he will stick it out unless / until he gets a pay off.

He’s not blameless, for sure, but the club is rudderless, bereft of ambition and owned and run by impostors.

Edited January 20, 2024 by martonrover

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

3 minutes ago, booth said:

Some positives are that Pears was an upgrade on Wahlstad. Adam Wharton played well, nicked the ball off the defender and took his goal well. JRC looked decent when he came on but unfit, how we've missed him emerging from his defence to give their defenders something to think about. Hyam was better today too.

We're still playing without a proper striker. The one masquerading as one put in the least amount of effort to defend. The tallest man on the pitch made himself the smallest at the most crucial of moments and it's 1-1.

Then he was downed in the box, a certain penalty, but the referee waved it away.

Two defenders down injured. The one to Carter seemed to really affect us, which was bizarre as we rightly didn't change shape or tactics. Heads seemed to drop simply because Carter got injured.

Players feeling sorry for them selves ? Not a good sign.

[roverandout]

1 minute ago, martonrover said:

He probably regrets not going in the Summer when they told him they were cnuts.

Now, as others have said, he will stick it out unless / until he gets a pay off.

He’s not blameless, for sure, but the club is rudderless, bereft of ambition and being  owned and run by impostors.

Changed it

Edited January 20, 2024 by roverandout

[jim mk2]

Just now, RevidgeBlue said:

Don't. Not even in jest.

He's just been interviewed on 5 live.

Said it was the "start of a journey". I kid you not.

Well, the "journey" he initiated here allowing key players to walk for nothing and spending £5m on garbage like Gallagher looks set to terminate in League 1 or even lower.

It was tongue in cheek and we had some poor periods under him

But this present team is the far worse than any of his sides IMO and the manager doesn’t seem to know what to do. It’s going to be really touch and go whether we stay up

[wilsdenrover]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

He's just a silver tongued bullshitter that's why.

Im not saying he’d make any sense but surely he has to say something.

[LDRover]

1 minute ago, ossyian said:

Cos he smiles a lot and has played in the World Cup mitigates the fact that he is a shit head coach. Add in his condescending attitude to everyone who questions him by deflecting his answers to the “new coach”. He wins some people over.  Not me. Fucking clueless. He has no fucking idea how to set up a team not to concede. Oh for Howard Kendall

A shit 'head coach' or a shit head 'coach'. I can go for either but I really need to know which you mean.

[bluebruce]

9 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Who’d have Tony Mowbray back?

Absolutely not, in no way, ever, no. NO.

[booth]

23 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

Injuries blah blah blah

the owners blah blah blah

lack of money blah blah blah

poor recruitment blah blah blah

why does Tomasson keep getting a free ride? 

If he is getting a free ride it's probably because he led us to our best league finish since the fuckwits took over.

Then the injuries blah blah blah, owners blah blah blah, lack of money blah blah blah and poor recruitment blah blah blah came along.

Though it's arguable that he's not getting a free ride at all seeing as it seems most fans want him sacked.

[bluebruce]

9 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

There’s always an excuse for Tomasson. You’re one of the culprits 

Back that up by pointing to an excuse I've made for Tomasson today. You're making shit up.

[SuperBrfc]

We were fortunate to get a point as Huddersfield missed a couple of great chances. We huffed and puffed but never looked like winning it, as we did not create a real chance.

What is alarming is how open we look at the back when our attacks break down. It's wild football at times, piling too many forward and not being able to get back in sufficient numbers.

I couldn't believe what I was seeing as a Huddersfield forward went rampaging down our left on the counter, free as you like, a completely free run into the box! He was played in on goal but luckily for us, skewed it wide.

We look extremely vulnerable to counter attacks. Look at the Huddersfield chance in the first half. One ball puts their striker through just inside the halfway line and he runs clear into our box! Any half decent team in the Championship will take advantage of this bad setup.

JDT has to walk, imo. It's just not working out. The whole environment from the top down is wrong. A toxic, aimless, gutless setup. An agents playground, where winning means little.

JDT arrived here in the wrong era and under the wrong people. Not his fault on that front. The club is not what he probably remembers it as being from his playing days in England.

I don't know if he is reluctant to walk away because he walked away at a previous club. Maybe he doesn't want to gain a reputation for quitting?

I wouldn't blame him for walking. It's probably best all round that he does. Well, it's not, because we will still have the same shit owners and yes men in the Boardroom, but something has to give to try and change these poor results.

[booth]

7 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Players feeling sorry for them selves ? Not a good sign.

Just weird really, we were playing well at the time and 1-0 up. Carter gets injured, then there's a like for like replacement and the entire team reacted like they were in mourning. Does Scott Wharton have BO or something?

Five minutes later we do concede a goal.