Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[glen9mullan]

29 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

You did say that they club would come out swinging with a full on charm offensive. 

Absolutely bizarre situation we find ourselves in as Rovers fans, at war with the club's hierarchy. 

Imagine just being able to support a football team, without all this shit.

On time too 🙂 😀 always weigh up the opponent, the consequences of said actions and have your Map far more advanced of theirs.

Their predictability is their weakness, it was last time supporters took a stand 

It will end the same way , All 3 gone , whilst we remain.

[LeftWinger]

Well I'm bored at work, so put this together comparing our record over the last 6 years - first 23 games versus second 23 games.

Win percentage in the first 23 games is 47.1% versus 26.7% in second half of the season.

This absolutely shows how we fuck up every January.

If there was ever an argument supporting investment in January, it's right here.

 

 

[MarkBRFC]

Which tells you when we inevitably start a season badly, we'll be in huge trouble.

[glen9mullan]

There is a twitter (x) space being done tonight in response to PR we are expecting out club tonight  and an opportunity for any supporter to speak and engage with people in coalition.

Being held by @kidderstnoise 19.30

On X

 

 

[Ghost7]

I'd like to hear Simon Jordan that aggressive towards Venky's and Waggott in regard to their neglect of a football club. Ironically he came across an entitled prat and completely unwilling to listen. Bad trait, and unhireable to some. No wonder he lost a fortune.... As smart as he thinks he is he's completely ignoring the bigger picture and his overinflated head is buried well and truly in the sand.

[martonrover]

37 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

It will end the same way , All 3 gone , whilst we remain.

Which would be something, but they are likely to be replaced by three more of the same low calibre.

In your opinion, is there any chance enough pressure can be exerted to make the owners think about selling up?

[davulsukur]

1 hour ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

But in reality its happening more and more at Club's up and down the Country,distant and aloof Ownership and alienated fanbase's.

But these Pune loons take some beating!

Where's the Shadow man btw,still hugging his Teddy...

You're right, almost like the custodians of the game should actually start doing something about it

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

43 minutes ago, LeftWinger said:

Well I'm bored at work, so put this together comparing our record over the last 6 years - first 23 games versus second 23 games.

Win percentage in the first 23 games is 47.1% versus 26.7% in second half of the season.

This absolutely shows how we fuck up every January.

If there was ever an argument supporting investment in January, it's right here.

 

 

How strangely convenient eh,almost as if engineered to happen.

Well I never!

[Ghost7]

On Gestede I wouldn't even be mentioning his name. He's a distraction now more than anything and could become a very convenient and irrelevant fall guy. I don't even particularly see him as part of the problem......

This is all about people who have been here much longer... and the owners. I wouldn't let the media turn the fans into villains who are targeting a "young guy who's been given an opportunity". 

Any conversation needs distancing from Rudy Gestede.

If he comes up people should immediately say "He is the least important topic, I wouldn't have hired him but this isn't about him".

[ABRAM ROVER]

Almost need a 10 point fact sheet of all the failings and why we want change. 

[StHelensRover]

1 hour ago, LeftWinger said:

Well I'm bored at work, so put this together comparing our record over the last 6 years - first 23 games versus second 23 games.

Win percentage in the first 23 games is 47.1% versus 26.7% in second half of the season.

This absolutely shows how we fuck up every January.

If there was ever an argument supporting investment in January, it's right here.

 

 

This season's second half the worst so far, and may get even worse, given that the last 4 of those games have been against the complete guff of the division. Much more difficult fixtures to come. 0.88ppg, stinking.

Would be really good if someone could print that table onto an A4 and share it with them at the next fans forum and ask them why they think those starts are the way they are. (If there is ever another forum, which there may not be at this point).

Edited yesterday at 13:53 by StHelensRover

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, Ianrally said:

You can bet if it was Rangers going down the pan, White would be shouting from the rooftops. Unfortunately we are a small town club with cobbled streets and flat caps as far as he is concerned. Talksport is not credible anyway. 

To be fair I think there are some terrific presenters and co presenters on TalkSport along with some terrible ones.

Great ones Jeff Stelling, Danny Baker and his crew on Trans Euro express, Neil Custis and Henry Winter, Hawksbee and Jacobs, Perry Groves, Dean Saunders Adam Catterall who's from Blackburn and a big Rovers fan, I actually like Simon Jordan most of the time, and there's a DJ called Majestic who's on with Alan Pardew Sunday evening.

Ally McCoist Adrian Durham and Charlie Baker are decent enough.

Terrible ones Alan Brazil, Shebaghn O Hern, Max Rushden, Andy Goldstein and Darren Bent, Jason Cundy and Jamie O Hara with Jim White firmly bottom of the pile. How he-s carved out a career in the media, God only knows.

If Glen or anyone from the group are reading this the lesson from today is "Pick your Presenter'.

I would try and get a slot on any show hosted by Adam Catterall who's a huge Rovers fan. I think he might be on 10p.m . to 1a m. Friday night/Saturday morning.

I wouldn't even chalk today up as a defeat. It was more of a damp squib. Anyone neutral with a passing interest in the story would have been left wondering why White and Jordan were so hostile towards such a reasonable sounding guest on their show.

Keep calm and carry on!

[islander200]

13 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

On Gestede I wouldn't even be mentioning his name. He's a distraction now more than anything and could become a very convenient and irrelevant fall guy. I don't even particularly see him as part of the problem......

This is all about people who have been here much longer... and the owners. I wouldn't let the media turn the fans into villains who are targeting a "young guy who's been given an opportunity". 

Any conversation needs distancing from Rudy Gestede.

If he comes up people should immediately say "He is the least important topic, I wouldn't have hired him but this isn't about him".

If the rumour that he is to take over from Waggott is true then he needs mentioning.

Yeah he might be new to the party but it needs to be heard that it would be totally unacceptable for him to be appointed CEO

[Ghost7]

Then it will all become about that. I wouldn't have any conversations originating from rumours, whatever they are and I'd move on from Gestede quickly under all circumstances. This has to be all about 15 years worth of facts. Which we have.

If you enter into a conversation on Gestede you won't have enough evidence to support your opinion and it will result back to things like we have just seen on TalkSport, fantasy text messages saying he will be fantastic for you, or "everyone needs a chance".

You'll fumble because he hasn't been here long, it will be distracting and you will come across as the unreasonable villain.

You can't properly argue something that isn't quite yet proven. The rest is.

This isn't about Rudy Gestede. If you make it about him then the solution here WILL be, "We listened and let Rudy Gestede go" and the media will think Blackburn fans got what they wanted...... End of campaign.

Avoid is my opinion.

[RevidgeBlue]

5 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

Then it will all become about that. I wouldn't have any conversations originating from rumours, whatever they are and I'd move on from Gestede quickly under all circumstances. This has to be all about 15 years worth of facts. Which we have.

If you enter into a conversation on Gestede you won't have enough evidence to support your opinion and it will result back to things like we have just seen on TalkSport, fantasy text messages saying he will be fantastic for you, or "everyone needs a chance".

You'll fumble because he hasn't been here long, it will be distracting and you will come across as the unreasonable villain.

You can't properly argue something that isn't quite yet proven. The rest is.

This isn't about Rudy Gestede. If you make it about him then the solution here WILL be, "We listened and let Rudy Gestede go" and the media will think Blackburn fans got what they wanted...... End of campaign.

Avoid is my opinion.

Spot on.

[glen9mullan]

23 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

To be fair I think there are some terrific presenters and co presenters on TalkSport along with some terrible ones.

Great ones Jeff Stelling, Danny Baker and his crew on Trans Euro express, Neil Custis and Henry Winter, Hawksbee and Jacobs, Perry Groves, Dean Saunders Adam Catterall who's from Blackburn and a big Rovers fan, I actually like Simon Jordan most of the time, and there's a DJ called Majestic who's on with Alan Pardew Sunday evening.

Ally McCoist Adrian Durham and Charlie Baker are decent enough.

Terrible ones Alan Brazil, Shebaghn O Hern, Max Rushden, Andy Goldstein and Darren Bent, Jason Cundy and Jamie O Hara with Jim White firmly bottom of the pile. How he-s carved out a career in the media, God only knows.

If Glen or anyone from the group are reading this the lesson from today is "Pick your Presenter'.

I would try and get a slot on any show hosted by Adam Catterall who's a huge Rovers fan. I think he might be on 10p.m . to 1a m. Friday night/Saturday morning.

I wouldn't even chalk today up as a defeat. It was more of a damp squib. Anyone neutral with a passing interest in the story would have been left wondering why White and Jordan were so hostile towards such a reasonable sounding guest on their show.

Keep calm and carry on!

Yeh, OG really talking to them.

Especially about Friday as it's old news, some clearly called in a favour.

Very different in a group of groups and individuals, slightly less control on media appearances. It's important we have many voices. People sick of my mug, but we need to coach better and be selective.

We was always on a hiding for nothing from SJ. And Rob did really well to keep his cool.

Think we are 3-1 up , but providing we score more than them we will progress.

I'd hoped WATR would of reached out to join forces as have the other groups like Pride Rovers etc.

I don't buy this concept that BRFC Action Group or any other group is a protest group. It's rather disrespectful to aim as such from some. Below a brief on some AG works.

We are currently developing our new website, our old one has sadly ceased for reasons out of our control.

 

Below is a brief history.

 

The BRFC Action Group is a supporters' organisation dedicated to advocating for Blackburn Rovers Football Club. in response to concerns over the club's management and ownership, the group has played a significant role in voicing fans' opinions and striving for positive change.

 

Formation and Early Activities

 

The group's formed in 2012 with a members democratically elected committee during a period of discontent among fans regarding the club's performance and leadership. Initially, their efforts focused on addressing managerial issues, notably campaigning for the removal of then-manager Steve Kean, whose tenure was marked by poor results. This campaign included organising protests and engaging with media outlets to express their dissatisfaction.

 

Over time, the BRFC Action Group expanded its focus beyond managerial concerns to address broader issues related to the club's ownership and strategic direction. Their advocacy efforts aimed to ensure that future generations could enjoy Blackburn Rovers as fans had in the past, emphasising the club's rich history and community significance.

 

Collaboration with Other Supporters' Organisations

 

In their pursuit of meaningful change, the BRFC Action Group collaborated with other supporters' organisations, notably the Rovers Trust. This collaboration led to the launch of the "We Are Rovers" campaign, which was formed after both groups balloted their members on a course of action. The campaign sought to address concerns over the club's ownership and to promote a more fan-centric approach to the club's future.

 

Engagement with Authorities

 

The group's activities gained significant attention, leading to engagements with both governmental bodies and footballing authorities. They were granted meetings with the Government, The Premier League , EFL and FA to air their grievances and discuss potential solutions. Supported by former MPs Jack Straw, Jake Berry and Graham Jones. These discussions underscored the group's commitment to advocating for the club and highlighted the broader concerns of the fanbase.

 

Impact on Club Ownership

 

The persistent efforts of the BRFC Action Group, alongside other supporters' organisations, contributed to increased scrutiny of the club's ownership. Their campaigns and advocacy played a role in bringing about changes in the club's management structure, aiming to align the club's operations with the interests and values of its supporters.

 

Other works

 

The BRFC has played an integral part as a charity raising thousands of pounds for local initiatives, whilst also organising the legends match which brought back many members of the 1995 Blackburn Rovers champions team, amongst others notably Tugay to play at Ewood Park, against supporters to raise money for the Former players association to aid their development as an entity.

 

The group is members of the FSF and ESF and in 2014 opened the first supporter walk in centre in Europe based at Ewood Park, funded by the group. This became a hub for both footballing and non footballling matters, notably domestic violence, hardship, homelessness and food banks. The group utilised their local connections with businesses and local authorities to fast track and support local residents in need

 

Continued Advocacy

 

As of March 2025, the BRFC Action Group continues to be an active voice for Blackburn Rovers fans, proudly standing as the largest independent supporter group with a near 8000 members globally. Their ongoing efforts focus on ensuring that the club remains accountable to its supporters and that its rich legacy is preserved for future generations. Through continued engagement and advocacy, the group strives to influence positive developments within the club and maintain a strong connection between the team and its community.

 

The history of the BRFC Action Group is a testament to the power of organised supporters in effecting change within football clubs. Their journey reflects a deep commitment to preserving the heritage and integrity of Blackburn Rovers, ensuring that the club remains a source of pride and joy for its fans.

 

The group is supported by its honory patrons Sir Bill Taylor. Maureen Bateson. MBE and Wayne Hemingway for their previous works as a democratic supporter group which is free and inclusive.

[StHelensRover]

I agree that the most focus of discontent must be on Venkys & Suhail Pasha at this point, everything else is rearranging deckchairs on the proverbial.

Waggott - incompetent but probably on the way to retirement, whether he goes makes no difference at this point, he probably doesn't care what people say about him or the owners, we've paid him millions of pounds to achieve mediocrity at best in the last few years.

Gestede - useless and under qualified,  but makes no difference whether he goes at this point

Ismael - quickly looking like a dud, but makes no difference whether he stays or goes. The last 15 years has shown that it doesn't really matter who the manager is, we will not win promotion from this division under Venkys. There is too much incompetence and chaos and the financial approach and playing side have been "bargain basement" for several years now.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Ghost7 said:

I'd like to hear Simon Jordan that aggressive towards Venky's and Waggott in regard to their neglect of a football club. Ironically he came across an entitled prat and completely unwilling to listen. Bad trait, and unhireable to some. No wonder he lost a fortune.... As smart as he thinks he is he's completely ignoring the bigger picture and his overinflated head is buried well and truly in the sand.

Yeah he's a massive twat. As you say, absolutely no wonder he lost all his money. 

[den]

I would suggest pick your bullet point and stick to it. Don’t make too many broad criticisms because they’ll just dilute the main target which has to be Venkys 15 year record of failure and what many fans believe is an inevitable, continued decline under their ownership.

That would be my approach.

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

PR machine in full flow , JW and SJ on talksport talking to Kiddersteet noise.

Proper hatchet job including them receiving a text on air stating how good Gestede is.

Very similar to the Jerome Anderson SSN appearance.

Feit Rob stayed calm, but they certainly went for jugglar

I thought he came across really well.

For whatever reason they tried to ambush him (no idea what their agenda is, but they put forward schoolboy level arguments and simply spoke over him when it suited) and he deftly handled it. Cutting him off at the end without warning was pathetic. 

Edited yesterday at 14:53 by Exiled_Rover

[roverandout]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

To be fair I think there are some terrific presenters and co presenters on TalkSport along with some terrible ones.

Great ones Jeff Stelling, Danny Baker and his crew on Trans Euro express, Neil Custis and Henry Winter, Hawksbee and Jacobs, Perry Groves, Dean Saunders Adam Catterall who's from Blackburn and a big Rovers fan, I actually like Simon Jordan most of the time, and there's a DJ called Majestic who's on with Alan Pardew Sunday evening.

Ally McCoist Adrian Durham and Charlie Baker are decent enough.

Terrible ones Alan Brazil, Shebaghn O Hern, Max Rushden, Andy Goldstein and Darren Bent, Jason Cundy and Jamie O Hara with Jim White firmly bottom of the pile. How he-s carved out a career in the media, God only knows.

If Glen or anyone from the group are reading this the lesson from today is "Pick your Presenter'.

I would try and get a slot on any show hosted by Adam Catterall who's a huge Rovers fan. I think he might be on 10p.m . to 1a m. Friday night/Saturday morning.

I wouldn't even chalk today up as a defeat. It was more of a damp squib. Anyone neutral with a passing interest in the story would have been left wondering why White and Jordan were so hostile towards such a reasonable sounding guest on their show.

Keep calm and carry on!

I completely disagree on cundy and o'hara. I enjoy listening to them. Goldstein is a good presenter too

[Exiled_Rover]

5 minutes ago, den said:

I would suggest pick your bullet point and stick to it. Don’t make too many broad criticisms because they’ll just dilute the main target which has to be Venkys 15 year record of failure and what many fans believe is an inevitable, continued decline under their ownership.

That would be my approach.

This is quite sensible.

I guess I'd pick from (they're unfit owners because):

• Took over a stable mid-table PL club - relegated them to L1. Never finished in the Championship playoffs in 15 years. 
• Haven't visited Ewood in 13 years (and counting). Indeed haven't even spoken to the last 3 managers (2 of whom walked)
• Second lowest net transfer spend in the Championship in the past decade, w/ no money invested since Nov 23.
• Waggott (reviled by all previous clubs), Suhail and Gestede (grossly underqualified) are a symptom of the problem - the owners. 

[miqaayil]

33 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Yeh, OG really talking to them.

Especially about Friday as it's old news, some clearly called in a favour.

Very different in a group of groups and individuals, slightly less control on media appearances. It's important we have many voices. People sick of my mug, but we need to coach better and be selective.

We was always on a hiding for nothing from SJ. And Rob did really well to keep his cool.

Think we are 3-1 up , but providing we score more than them we will progress.

I'd hoped WATR would of reached out to join forces as have the other groups like Pride Rovers etc.

I don't buy this concept that BRFC Action Group or any other group is a protest group. It's rather disrespectful to aim as such from some. Below a brief on some AG works.

We are currently developing our new website, our old one has sadly ceased for reasons out of our control.

 

Below is a brief history.

 

The BRFC Action Group is a supporters' organisation dedicated to advocating for Blackburn Rovers Football Club. in response to concerns over the club's management and ownership, the group has played a significant role in voicing fans' opinions and striving for positive change.

 

Formation and Early Activities

 

The group's formed in 2012 with a members democratically elected committee during a period of discontent among fans regarding the club's performance and leadership. Initially, their efforts focused on addressing managerial issues, notably campaigning for the removal of then-manager Steve Kean, whose tenure was marked by poor results. This campaign included organising protests and engaging with media outlets to express their dissatisfaction.

 

Over time, the BRFC Action Group expanded its focus beyond managerial concerns to address broader issues related to the club's ownership and strategic direction. Their advocacy efforts aimed to ensure that future generations could enjoy Blackburn Rovers as fans had in the past, emphasising the club's rich history and community significance.

 

Collaboration with Other Supporters' Organisations

 

In their pursuit of meaningful change, the BRFC Action Group collaborated with other supporters' organisations, notably the Rovers Trust. This collaboration led to the launch of the "We Are Rovers" campaign, which was formed after both groups balloted their members on a course of action. The campaign sought to address concerns over the club's ownership and to promote a more fan-centric approach to the club's future.

 

Engagement with Authorities

 

The group's activities gained significant attention, leading to engagements with both governmental bodies and footballing authorities. They were granted meetings with the Government, The Premier League , EFL and FA to air their grievances and discuss potential solutions. Supported by former MPs Jack Straw, Jake Berry and Graham Jones. These discussions underscored the group's commitment to advocating for the club and highlighted the broader concerns of the fanbase.

 

Impact on Club Ownership

 

The persistent efforts of the BRFC Action Group, alongside other supporters' organisations, contributed to increased scrutiny of the club's ownership. Their campaigns and advocacy played a role in bringing about changes in the club's management structure, aiming to align the club's operations with the interests and values of its supporters.

 

Other works

 

The BRFC has played an integral part as a charity raising thousands of pounds for local initiatives, whilst also organising the legends match which brought back many members of the 1995 Blackburn Rovers champions team, amongst others notably Tugay to play at Ewood Park, against supporters to raise money for the Former players association to aid their development as an entity.

 

The group is members of the FSF and ESF and in 2014 opened the first supporter walk in centre in Europe based at Ewood Park, funded by the group. This became a hub for both footballing and non footballling matters, notably domestic violence, hardship, homelessness and food banks. The group utilised their local connections with businesses and local authorities to fast track and support local residents in need

 

Continued Advocacy

 

As of March 2025, the BRFC Action Group continues to be an active voice for Blackburn Rovers fans, proudly standing as the largest independent supporter group with a near 8000 members globally. Their ongoing efforts focus on ensuring that the club remains accountable to its supporters and that its rich legacy is preserved for future generations. Through continued engagement and advocacy, the group strives to influence positive developments within the club and maintain a strong connection between the team and its community.

 

The history of the BRFC Action Group is a testament to the power of organised supporters in effecting change within football clubs. Their journey reflects a deep commitment to preserving the heritage and integrity of Blackburn Rovers, ensuring that the club remains a source of pride and joy for its fans.

 

The group is supported by its honory patrons Sir Bill Taylor. Maureen Bateson. MBE and Wayne Hemingway for their previous works as a democratic supporter group which is free and inclusive.

Hi bro...

Have you ever considered making this bigger than a footy club... from the history i know of EWOOD definitely when we were in PL , Gameday business would have been good for local businesses and BRFC would have been footing local events and vibrant community ... thus venky mismanagement of club has contributed to killing of local businesses affecting livelihood of local residents thus becoming a MP problem ?

this will/can turn towards mismanagement by Indian Owned conglomerates ...as i believe only when there's pressure in PUNE will this break.. holding rovers becoming toxic to their main holding ...just an idea 

even a full page ad like MADE IN EWOOD / KILLED IN PUNE would help ...

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, LeftWinger said:

Well I'm bored at work, so put this together comparing our record over the last 6 years - first 23 games versus second 23 games.

Win percentage in the first 23 games is 47.1% versus 26.7% in second half of the season.

This absolutely shows how we fuck up every January.

If there was ever an argument supporting investment in January, it's right here.

 

 

Wow, every single second half of the season worse by a minimum of 0.3 points per game. And even before this season (currently almost exactly half the PPG of the first half of the season and on set to be the worst on this table) by as much as 0.66 PPG.

[glen9mullan]

A lot of interviews today, Gestede with LET looks like first one out,

Fully expect the rest to filter out after that,

We've dragged them out,

Supporters 4 v 1 regime