Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[LeftWinger]

People wonder why they don't communicate much via the media...

It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt

 

[K-Hod]

‘Today’s news headlines- we are all tossers’.

[toogs]

3 hours ago, bluebruce said:

Thumbs down on YouTube don't do anything.

Every little helps.
 

Last look the YT video had had 10k views. How does that compare to the LET comments section? Which seem to be perceived as carrying a lot of weight on here. 
 

The YT video is an official production from the club and the comments are universally negative against the club.
 

The comments are so negative, I doubt they will be using that media channel outlet again any time soon. 

Whilst the video is there, people can link to it and say “read the comments”  

So reacting to the video does serve a purpose. 

Unless you mean thumbs down in isolation doesn’t do anything other than influence the algorithm, then I agree. 
 

But do comment people!

Edited yesterday at 06:02 by toogs

[BlackburnEnd75]

I've listened to the club video and now the BBC lancs interview.

And I'm still no closer to figuring out what is happening with venkys funding. Suhail contradicts himself constantly to the point where I believe him to be lying. 

[Mattyblue]

That boardroom belonged to an era in which Blackburn Rovers was owned and run by Blackburners who did everything they could to get the best possible team on the pitch their resources allowed - the whole point of professional football.

It was then moved and painstakingly re-built brick by brick in the new stand, as Jack wanted a link between our heritage and where he wanted to take the club.

So to see those three carpet-bagging chancers sitting in that esteemed place to try and convey to the football world and the fanbase some sheen of respectability and authority, some link to those real Rovers men that came before, whilst in reality they are only here to downsize and cut back the club on behalf of some family half way round the world sums up the whole grotesque charade of Venky-BRFC.

Edited yesterday at 07:18 by Mattyblue

[Bronzed A Donis]

9 hours ago, Upside Down said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stick to the facts, of which there are many.

Have you got a lot of the sources for this? Not disputing any of it btw, it's superb.

If there was a link to go alongside it's harder for a journalist to not pick it up if the leg works been done. (I don't mind going through). It's got 'The Athletic' written all over it.

How anyone can look at that and not think, Incompetent,  systematic destruction.

We're holding on by a Wharton and Szmodics fraying thread.

[Bronzed A Donis]

9 hours ago, JHRover said:

One minute in. Waggott has managed to make himself the victim of this situation by referring to abuse and personal threats and boasted of his approach to communication and his 'open door' policy.

Kean/Anderson/Murphy/Orr 

Playbook 101, play the nasty Rovers fans with an agenda card. It's like 2012 all over again. Rattled.

[Wheelton Blue]

The most telling comment to me is the one about us only having 6,000 hard core supporters.

That tells us everything we need to know, and what we've been saying for ages; that their whole financial approach is simply to fleece those who will attend come what may.

They have no inclination - nor nous of how - to grow the fanbase, other than put on free school buses every other week.

[Upside Down]

16 minutes ago, Bronzed A Donis said:

Have you got a lot of the sources for this? Not disputing any of it btw, it's superb.

If there was a link to go alongside it's harder for a journalist to not pick it up if the leg works been done. (I don't mind going through). It's got 'The Athletic' written all over it.

How anyone can look at that and not think, Incompetent,  systematic destruction.

We're holding on by a Wharton and Szmodics fraying thread.

If you pm me your email I'll send you the full document that has hyperlinks to every single bit of factual information on there.

They've changed the site so you can't upload PDF files anymore. ☹️

[BlackburnEnd75]

Now listened to gestede on the arte labore podcast.

I know he's the least important character in all this but wow are we in trouble. The guy is completely deluded. Honestly its keanesque

[RoverDom]

Gone are the days of "we've got a list in case we get promoted and a list incase we dont" 

We're now in the era of "fuck knows what league we'll be in how am I meant to know who we're signing"

 

I noticed in the Rovers TV one he said "in January we were proactive and started speaking to our targets at the start of January". Proactive would mean having them through the door at the start of January, not just talking to people. 

[BigUts]

I listened to only a few minutes of the interview on Rovers TV and turned it off. It made my skin crawl.

I'm glad Bayes pushed a little harder on some points. Surely now, if anyone would ever be serious about owning Rovers, this is the moment. They Rao's are under pressure, they're on the back foot and the 3 stooges have basically admitted they would be open to offers. It would be VERY easy to get the fans on board and with their assistance change can happen.

 

[JHRover]

I thought it was telling when Suhail said that his trips to India have been reduced from every three months to once a year.

I think this is true, and symbolises the 'washing of hands' the owners have performed of the club since 2020. 

Basically they trust him and Waggott to oversee things provided they keep income at a certain level and do what is necessary to minimise their losses. As long as their money men can see that happening in the accounts then the owners are fine with that year to year.

This leaves these two stooges essentially running Ewood however they like, within budget, hence the total shambles and chaos we've seen since Mowbray left. It is unworkable unless the manager gets direct access to India, which hasn't happened in 5-6 years.

[booth]

8 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

They are clearly being left to their own devices and consequently have no clear, approved and trustworthy vision.

🤯

100%.

[jim mk2]

Watched 5 minutes and that was enough.  All 3 of them are clearly rattled. Congratulations on all who are involved in this.

Would any decent employer give any of them a job? Gestede to clean the players' boots and sweep the floors maybe.

Dreadful people, a whole world away from the Rovers-supporting local businessmen who ran the club decades ago and had only its interests at heart. Waggott comes across a slimy individual, with one of those simpering, whiny Geordie voices. 

The fans need to be heard loud and clear and, hopefully, actions need to take place and be seen before the TV cameras on Friday night.

Will it make any difference? Who knows - but let's embarrass the hell out of these people. 

 

 

 

[roverblue]

This is all spin to try and sell some season tickets as they are financially in the shit and need some money in and fast.

The key question that wasn't asked is when did the Venky's last send any money to the club? Because the answer is back in late 2023 when they got court permission to. Since then not a penny has come over and we are living off the Wharton and Szmodic cash which has or is about to run out. 

You could see Waggot try to blag it off numerous times but at least Suhail corrected him and spelt it out that the club is now self sustaining and that is the future. The Venkys clearly don't want to put a penny into the club anymore and in 6-12 months time it will be sell or go bust if it stays that way. There is nothing left to sell that comes anywhere near a £22m shortfall.

[lraC]

45 minutes ago, BigUts said:

I listened to only a few minutes of the interview on Rovers TV and turned it off. It made my skin crawl.

I'm glad Bayes pushed a little harder on some points. Surely now, if anyone would ever be serious about owning Rovers, this is the moment. They Rao's are under pressure, they're on the back foot and the 3 stooges have basically admitted they would be open to offers. It would be VERY easy to get the fans on board and with their assistance change can happen.

 

I can't bring myself to watch it, to be honest, as I am angry enough already.

Did the actually admit they would be open to offers then, as that is a first, as far as I know, as I am sure they have always stated that the are not interested in selling.

[JHRover]

Waggott tied himself in knots with the Eustace departure and fair play to Andy Bayes for forcing that out of him.

He came out with the ludicrous claim that the move occurred because Eustace had played for Derby and that it is 'closer to his house'. Eustace himself has said this wasn't a factor and nor is it very often in the world of professional football - you don't base your managerial career about being nearer to home or you don't get very far in the game.

He then conceded that there had been an approach from Derby on the Friday and that from that moment Eustace was in the 'departure lounge' essentially that his mind was elsewhere and not on the job at Rovers.

Then when asked why Eustace was allowed to remain in the dugout for the Wolves FA Cup game 2 days later, to which he responded that Eustace had done all the preparation that week and that because he hadn't joined Derby there was still a chance it might not happen. 

He whines about how difficult it is mid-season to recruit managers or even assistants employed at other clubs, overlooking the fact that this is precisely what happened here and the reason why we needed a new manager.

Sometimes I can't work out whether he actually believes some of the stuff he comes out with, and doesn't think what goes on here is unusual, as he does put on a pretty convincing display in suggesting that all is normal and part and parcel at Ewood, or whether it is a very well crafted performance designed to try and convince viewers that the events of the last few years here are just normal.

He also indicated that news would come out about a couple of new contracts for players in the next couple of days.

So I am looking forward to seeing who those are before the end of the week. I think we all know by now that this is highly unlikely to happen and at best it will be a couple of the academy lads or U21s getting improved terms. I will be amazed, astonished, if any of the current senior team are announced as having signed new extended terms before the weekend. He can't help himself. 

[Gav]

VENKYS OUT - NOTHING ELSE MATTERS

 

[KentExile]

17 minutes ago, JHRover said:

He also indicated that news would come out about a couple of new contracts for players in the next couple of days.

So I am looking forward to seeing who those are before the end of the week. I think we all know by now that this is highly unlikely to happen and at best it will be a couple of the academy lads or U21s getting improved terms. I will be amazed, astonished, if any of the current senior team are announced as having signed new extended terms before the weekend. He can't help himself. 

Batth, Weimann & Forshaw would be my guess.  none would require a pay rise.

Possibly first pro deals for Tyjon (with much fanfare about planning for the future) now that he has turned 17, and Dunn (if he is old enough)

Edited 23 hours ago by KentExile

[den]

3 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Waggott tied himself in knots with the Eustace departure and fair play to Andy Bayes for forcing that out of him.

He came out with the ludicrous claim that the move occurred because Eustace had played for Derby and that it is 'closer to his house'. Eustace himself has said this wasn't a factor and nor is it very often in the world of professional football - you don't base your managerial career about being nearer to home or you don't get very far in the game.

He then conceded that there had been an approach from Derby on the Friday and that from that moment Eustace was in the 'departure lounge' essentially that his mind was elsewhere and not on the job at Rovers.

Then when asked why Eustace was allowed to remain in the dugout for the Wolves FA Cup game 2 days later, to which he responded that Eustace had done all the preparation that week and that because he hadn't joined Derby there was still a chance it might not happen. 

He whines about how difficult it is mid-season to recruit managers or even assistants employed at other clubs, overlooking the fact that this is precisely what happened here and the reason why we needed a new manager.

Sometimes I can't work out whether he actually believes some of the stuff he comes out with, and doesn't think what goes on here is unusual, as he does put on a pretty convincing display in suggesting that all is normal and part and parcel at Ewood, or whether it is a very well crafted performance designed to try and convince viewers that the events of the last few years here are just normal.

 

I think he’s just a guy who has no control at the club, who has no answers to our problems. We could change the personnel - as we have done numerous times - but it will make no difference. Rovers are owned by people who have no grip on how to run an English football club effectively.

I was always wary of what would happen to Rovers if their funding disappeared but there’s no future, nothing to look forward to while Venkys are here. They have to sell up.

[davulsukur]

17 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Waggott tied himself in knots with the Eustace departure and fair play to Andy Bayes for forcing that out of him.

He came out with the ludicrous claim that the move occurred because Eustace had played for Derby and that it is 'closer to his house'. Eustace himself has said this wasn't a factor and nor is it very often in the world of professional football - you don't base your managerial career about being nearer to home or you don't get very far in the game.

He then conceded that there had been an approach from Derby on the Friday and that from that moment Eustace was in the 'departure lounge' essentially that his mind was elsewhere and not on the job at Rovers.

Then when asked why Eustace was allowed to remain in the dugout for the Wolves FA Cup game 2 days later, to which he responded that Eustace had done all the preparation that week and that because he hadn't joined Derby there was still a chance it might not happen. 

He whines about how difficult it is mid-season to recruit managers or even assistants employed at other clubs, overlooking the fact that this is precisely what happened here and the reason why we needed a new manager.

Sometimes I can't work out whether he actually believes some of the stuff he comes out with, and doesn't think what goes on here is unusual, as he does put on a pretty convincing display in suggesting that all is normal and part and parcel at Ewood, or whether it is a very well crafted performance designed to try and convince viewers that the events of the last few years here are just normal.

He also indicated that news would come out about a couple of new contracts for players in the next couple of days.

So I am looking forward to seeing who those are before the end of the week. I think we all know by now that this is highly unlikely to happen and at best it will be a couple of the academy lads or U21s getting improved terms. I will be amazed, astonished, if any of the current senior team are announced as having signed new extended terms before the weekend. He can't help himself. 

It'll be Weimann and Batth, at a guess.

It won't be any of Trav, Brittain, Tronstad or Hyam, who's renewals are far more important, although looking highly unlikely to happen.

 

Edit: KentExile beat me to it.

Edited 23 hours ago by davulsukur

[JHRover]

I also find it really weird how Suhail is then questioned on retail and Ewood Park issues like season tickets, the Riverside, club shop, prices. They've admitted that he is more involved in the commercial side of things.

It's just very strange, he admits to being involved with the purchase of the club by Venkys back in 2010, he admits to have been hands on at the club since 2015, and now a decade on he finally offers himself up in public but much of his topic of discussion is about what I would describe as fairly trivial matters in the grand scheme of things. 

On the one hand he's obviously the owners' man, representative and despite his claims I suspect the only one with a direct line to India, and is clearly trusted by them having been involved for well over a decade, yet we are now supposed to believe after all this time he is spending his days attempting to improve the Ewood Park atmosphere and worrying about kits and ticket prices and he's reporting to Waggott on such things? Nonsense IMO.

[chaddyrovers]

43 minutes ago, lraC said:

I can't bring myself to watch it, to be honest, as I am angry enough already.

Did the actually admit they would be open to offers then, as that is a first, as far as I know, as I am sure they have always stated that the are not interested in selling.

Read this instead 

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/25056795.venkys-stance-blackburn-rovers-sale-amid-fan-frustration/

[chaddyrovers]

21 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Waggott tied himself in knots with the Eustace departure and fair play to Andy Bayes for forcing that out of him.

He came out with the ludicrous claim that the move occurred because Eustace had played for Derby and that it is 'closer to his house'. Eustace himself has said this wasn't a factor and nor is it very often in the world of professional football - you don't base your managerial career about being nearer to home or you don't get very far in the game.

He then conceded that there had been an approach from Derby on the Friday and that from that moment Eustace was in the 'departure lounge' essentially that his mind was elsewhere and not on the job at Rovers.

Then when asked why Eustace was allowed to remain in the dugout for the Wolves FA Cup game 2 days later, to which he responded that Eustace had done all the preparation that week and that because he hadn't joined Derby there was still a chance it might not happen. 

I haven't listened to neither Radio Lancs or RoversTv interviews but given this was the case, as I said the other day that as soon as that approach came and he went to go, he, Gardiner and Downing should have been put gardening leave and Johnson/Lowe should have in charge from Saturday before the Wolves game