Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[Upside Down]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Good ownership is having a plan for short, medium and long term, employing the correct people in key roles and communicating that plan to your supporters, good commercial plan and Good ST plan that engage with supporters, understands Supporters financial situation and bring through the next generation of supporter

 

So the polar opposite of what we have here then.

[JHRover]

8 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Good ownership is having a plan for short, medium and long term, employing the correct people in key roles and communicating that plan to your supporters, good commercial plan and Good ST plan that engage with supporters, understands Supporters financial situation and bring through the next generation of supporter

 

Have we had any of that at any time in the last 15 years?

We've scratched at the surface under well meaning but restricted people. Communication improved briefly under Alan Myers, we seemed to have the outline of a workable footballing structure under Mowbray and then JDT/Broughton. They've dabbled with 'next generation' with stuff like the Ewood Express, though positive I do think the actual scale and impact of these efforts are actually quite limited and in comparison to other clubs it is nothing at all special. Accy Stanley make greater efforts with their school shirt initiatives.

But ultimately because of the owners these limited efforts have achieved minimal success and have collapsed or broken down in a relatively short period of time. And that will continue under the latest incarnation under Gestede and Ismael. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

Good ownership is having a plan for short, medium and long term, employing the correct people in key roles and communicating that plan to your supporters, good commercial plan and Good ST plan that engage with supporters, understands Supporters financial situation and bring through the next generation of supporter

 

...We fall massively short on all requirements.

[Tomphil2]

The only plan here is wing it year by year and hope to have a squad to stay in the Championship.

A loose plan by some of them is a rebuild every 2 or 3 years after selling what they can to pay down the running cost debt then grow another lot to sell.

In between the void between Blackburn and India some continue to do very nicely indeed from the wing it/loose plan blueprint.

No wonder they aren't arsed about wins or league position.

Edited Friday at 13:26 by Tomphil2

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

On 09/04/2025 at 14:36, Herbie6590 said:

Just about to post that too…😆

Absolutely Brilliant those,Kudos to those involved!

[JHRover]

After finishing 7th on goal difference in the first season under an exciting ambitious new head coach, our highest points tally in this league since relegation in 2012, and missing out on an FA Cup semi final at Wembley due to a lasp gasp defeat away at a side that won automatic promotion that season, our CEO goes public with his target for the new season which is to survive in the Championship and expects credit for relaying the pitch and hiring (not buying) a new team bus.

Totally and utterly bonkers but a perfect snapshot into the mentality and ambitions of the people working down there. 

Equally ludicrous is that after making those comments he wasn't immediately axed and shown the door. 

Any engaged ambitious owner would not have tolerated such but this lot know that they can keep their heads down, not rock the boat and they're on a lifetime gravy train ride. Another 2 years on and they're still going, managed to avoid relegation, pay has gone up, owners must be happy with things, what's not to like?

Who cares if we've flogged or soon will flog all our remaining quality and assets, our fanbase has shrunk further, our two last managers have walked out in disgust and in doing so we've lost a shot at promotion. These are all immaterial insignificant issues to these people.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

But they have got away with it for far too long JHRover,untouchable,they dont even believe they have to answer to the Fans.They have got away with so much its untrue.

[Tomphil2]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

After finishing 7th on goal difference in the first season under an exciting ambitious new head coach, our highest points tally in this league since relegation in 2012, and missing out on an FA Cup semi final at Wembley due to a lasp gasp defeat away at a side that won automatic promotion that season, our CEO goes public with his target for the new season which is to survive in the Championship and expects credit for relaying the pitch and hiring (not buying) a new team bus.

Totally and utterly bonkers but a perfect snapshot into the mentality and ambitions of the people working down there. 

Equally ludicrous is that after making those comments he wasn't immediately axed and shown the door. 

Any engaged ambitious owner would not have tolerated such but this lot know that they can keep their heads down, not rock the boat and they're on a lifetime gravy train ride. Another 2 years on and they're still going, managed to avoid relegation, pay has gone up, owners must be happy with things, what's not to like?

Who cares if we've flogged or soon will flog all our remaining quality and assets, our fanbase has shrunk further, our two last managers have walked out in disgust and in doing so we've lost a shot at promotion. These are all immaterial insignificant issues to these people.

The platforms they've had to build on in recent years with just a bit of regular investment and ambitious stewardship are what we've waited for ever since relegation in 2012.

Mowbray after 4 years finally gets his act together and delivers a play off push but falls short due to shallow squad so they rip that up and go down a different route. To everyone's surprise it works great for a year so what do they do, allow that to go to shit then have to bring in a firefighter.

He shows the right way for a club like this but can't push it because of the same issues the previous two had so he jumps ship but leaving us in 5th.

So yeah they pull that to bits and install the latest installed puppets very own puppet and we are by the looks of it right back to the final summer of TM where more budget cuts and a transition to youth, freebies became priority.

Unreal.

Edited Friday at 15:27 by Tomphil2

[DutchRover]

Exactly right, Mowbray, JDT and Eustace all managed to drag us to top-8 championship form, despite constant meddling and kneecapping by the execs/owners behind the scenes.

[martonrover]

28 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

Exactly right, Mowbray, JDT and Eustace all managed to drag us to top-8 championship form, despite constant meddling and kneecapping by the execs/owners behind the scenes.

Mowbray had reasonable backing in the market.

The other two were sold a pack of lies and couldn’t wait to get out.

[DutchRover]

9 minutes ago, martonrover said:

Mowbray had reasonable backing in the market.

The other two were sold a pack of lies and couldn’t wait to get out.

He did at times, but he also had to start from next to nothing in our League 1 season and fly to India every time he had to even try and persuade the owners to buy someone.

Not to mention how they screwed up the Rothwell and Lenihan situations in all too familiar contract bungling. The Rothwell situation was particularly frustrating as it ruined the playoff push (he didn't care anymore), and denied Mowbray money to reinvest in January; another classic anti-ambition January window.

By the end he was also abruptly and disgracefully ignored by the owners, who let him walk at the end of the contract without even talking to him.

Edited Friday at 16:37 by DutchRover

[martonrover]

7 minutes ago, DutchRover said:

He did at times, but he also had to start from next to nothing in our League 1 season and fly to India every time he had to even try and persuade the owners to buy someone.

Not to mention how they screwed up the Rothwell and Lenihan situations in all too familiar contract bungling. The Rothwell situation was particularly frustrating as it ruined the playoff push (he didn't care anymore), and denied Mowbray money to reinvest in January; another classic anti-ambition January window.

By the end he was also abruptly and disgracefully ignored by the owners, who let him walk at the end of the contract without even talking to him.

All very good points.

However, Mowbray was quoted as saying he dampened the owners expectations on one of his Pune trips, shortly after the League One promotion.

He had the opportunity to benefit from having the owners ears, but chose to play it safe, and all the momentum was lost.

He was bloody lucky that League one was absolutely terrible the season we were in it.

There was very little competition, unlike now.

Given the opportunities Mowbray had, I think JDT and Eustace would’ve capitalised.

[Mike E]

Going back even further, if any reputable manager had the squad that Bowyer and his dad managed to put together, we would’ve gone up. 40+ goals between Rhodes and Gestede (alongside Conway, Marshall, Cairney, King) and we managed eighth.

[simongarnerisgod]

4 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Going back even further, if any reputable manager had the squad that Bowyer and his dad managed to put together, we would’ve gone up. 40+ goals between Rhodes and Gestede (alongside Conway, Marshall, Cairney, King) and we managed eighth.

thats a bit unfair on bowyer,he inherited the mess from  kean,berg and appleton and put together a decent side,he was a bit negative when it cames to making on pitch decisions and thats why we did`nt make the play offs,in true venky fashion,they then **** him over and sold all his best players

[Leonard Venkhater]

FFS! Nixon really coming out from the shadows or Radio Lancs (token challenge from Bayes).

"Negative fans" can't get behind their team. Nixon certainly coming out for the regime.

What an absolutely arrogant ******!

I SEE YOU!

Edited Friday at 18:18 by Leonard Venkhater

[Leonard Venkhater]

58 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

thats a bit unfair on bowyer,he inherited the mess from  kean,berg and appleton and put together a decent side,he was a bit negative when it cames to making on pitch decisions and thats why we did`nt make the play offs,in true venky fashion,they then **** him over and sold all his best players

But he didn't have the experience. Look at the jobs he has had since.

I think Mike is correct in that Venky's went cheap on the manager and it cost us with a decent squad.

[simongarnerisgod]

4 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

FFS! Nixon really coming out from the shadows or Radio Lancs (token challenge from Bayes).

"Negative fans" can't get behind their team. Nixon certainly coming out for the regime.

What an absolutely arrogant ******!

I SEE YOU!

thankfully i don`t think anyone takes any notice of that pillock,bull**** spreader of considerable volume

[Leonard Venkhater]

2 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

thankfully i don`t think anyone takes any notice of that pillock,bull**** spreader of considerable volume

He didn't make any attempt to hide it....Made me sick!

[simongarnerisgod]

8 minutes ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

He didn't make any attempt to hide it....Made me sick!

i absolutely loath him,makes up so many shite rumours and stories that eventually one of them comes to fruition,then claims he`s in the know with everyone,proper chancing cnut

[chaddyrovers]

7 hours ago, JHRover said:

Have we had any of that at any time in the last 15 years?

We've scratched at the surface under well meaning but restricted people. Communication improved briefly under Alan Myers, we seemed to have the outline of a workable footballing structure under Mowbray and then JDT/Broughton. They've dabbled with 'next generation' with stuff like the Ewood Express, though positive I do think the actual scale and impact of these efforts are actually quite limited and in comparison to other clubs it is nothing at all special. Accy Stanley make greater efforts with their school shirt initiatives.

But ultimately because of the owners these limited efforts have achieved minimal success and have collapsed or broken down in a relatively short period of time. And that will continue under the latest incarnation under Gestede and Ismael. 

You know the answer to your question. 

Stanley done good work in the community but so do Rovers. Yesterday, the club shop was busy with yesterday with player signing session and I would like to see more of them during the school holidays. Rovers community trust does good work in the community hence why they have won awards for t 

[Tomphil2]

He was saying the same to Preston fans when it was Lowe out Lowe in every other week.

Very much speaks from inside footballs old boys network and you know when he's going out on a limb there's an agency connection somewhere.

Literally EVERY Rovers fan should block the fat gimp, when was the last time he paid to watch a live game ? 1979 probably.

[roversfan99]

3 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

thankfully i don`t think anyone takes any notice of that pillock,bull**** spreader of considerable volume

Some do bizarelly. Like a cult of followers who will soon pay for the privelidge of pestering him all summer feeding his ego.

[47er]

10 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Good ownership is having a plan for short, medium and long term,

Yes but we don't have good ownership do we? So, irrelevant?

[47er]

4 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said:

thats a bit unfair on bowyer,he inherited the mess from  kean,berg and appleton and put together a decent side,he was a bit negative when it cames to making on pitch decisions and thats why we did`nt make the play offs,in true venky fashion,they then **** him over and sold all his best players

He rarely played King!

[roversfan99]

To be fair regarding King, we had 2 20 goal strikers ahead of him and when he did play, he underwhelmed bar those 2 cup games, and he was often injured.

Not saying for one minute though that Bowyer was a good manager.