Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[RoverDom]

9 minutes ago, lraC said:

here is a ling to him on companies house.

https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/officers/p0cSmYTi_jiQwJX9BhI5rfZNHhA/appointments

He's filed some micro-company accounts. Guy must know what he's talking about. 

[lraC]

56 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

There definitely needs to be a language change. Whenever a happy clapper says they've invested £300m it needs called out. Its not been invested its been lost. I didn't invested £60 in my car when I filled it up at the weekend. 

The owners used that for their court case. They needed permission to send funds, to protect their investment. If spending circa £300m to produce an asset worth £50m at best, then the definition of investment needs changing.

[wilsdenrover]

1 minute ago, lraC said:

The owners used that for their court case. They needed permission to send funds, to protect their investment. If spending circa £300m to produce an asset worth £50m at best, then the definition of investment needs changing.

Investments can be both good and bad.

I’m sure we all agree which category Venkys ownership of Rovers falls into. 

[Ossydave]

Pretty sure this TK bloke must be related to my old PE teacher, same surname, same pro venkys shite being spouted on socials too🤔

[Mattyblue]

No surprise it’s those that have family connections. I imagine the Coar extended family come out with this claptrap too.

Can’t say I’ve heard much anti-Glazer stuff from ‘honorary’ directors or ‘ambassadors’ at Man Utd either.

[Leonard Venkhater]

10 hours ago, Mike E said:

eh? 😜

Come on, Mike lol...

Anyway, I am sure it will have expired by now..

[miqaayil]

5 hours ago, RoverDom said:

There definitely needs to be a language change. Whenever a happy clapper says they've invested £300m it needs called out. Its not been invested its been lost. I didn't invested £60 in my car when I filled it up at the weekend. 

when they say they have invested 300m ... first question "who's money?" , second question "if its good ,clean, clear funds free from lien , how is your court stopping you from sending your money to your business and forced you to liquidate your house you bought with your money?"

simple questions which nobody asks

[Tomphil2]

5 minutes ago, miqaayil said:

when they say they have invested 300m ... first question "who's money?" , second question "if its good ,clean, clear funds free from lien , how is your court stopping you from sending your money to your business and forced you to liquidate your house you bought with your money?"

simple questions which nobody asks

Not defending them for 1 sec but the questions have been answered albeit by the billy bullhitters classed as CEO & COO.

The fraud squad over there haven't turned anything up yet other than miss spending money sent for the football club on personal property.

They CAN send money but don't want to because of the alleged pound for pound guarantee.

Unless the investigation suddenly blows up then we have to assume it's nothing other than them being clueless on certain things as usual.

The focus at the min is on this end and those who are seemingly now running this club into the ground bit by bit.

[Mike E]

1 hour ago, Leonard Venkhater said:

Come on, Mike lol...

Anyway, I am sure it will have expired by now..

It’s a Morecambe and Wise joke:

eh? You’re adorable 

B! But you’re beautiful etc

[47er]

2 hours ago, miqaayil said:

when they say they have invested 300m ... first question "who's money?" , second question "if its good ,clean, clear funds free from lien , how is your court stopping you from sending your money to your business and forced you to liquidate your house you bought with your money?"

simple questions which nobody asks

Its not "investment", its paying the unavoidable bills. If they had invested £300M  we would have something to show for it.

Example---£7M was invested in Diaz and they lost all of it.

Edited Tuesday at 22:22 by 47er

[JHRover]

I detect a shift in policy back towards the 'academy model' that JDT was employed to oversee and which Eustace ditched.

Unfortunately for them despite running with the academy model and JDT doing a good job with it by handing first team action to numerous academy lads whilst sustaining a competitive side, he was too good and had us in promotion contention. Added to that he was hungry and ambitious, and wanted promotion. A bad mix for this lot, so he had to go.

They made quite a mess even of JDT walking out, and by the end of that process had set us on a path for relegation to League One. Eustace was all about fighting fires for the first few months and ensuring survival was achieved. 

Eustace has shown in his jobs that he wants tried and tested experience to call upon. Weimann, Batth, McFadzean and a distinct lack of academy players getting debuts during his time. This lot want some quick cash from academy lads coming through like Adam Wharton. Eustace was never going to play that game. Again too ambitious and wanted results first and foremost.

Lo and behold now Ismael has turned up it is back to the previous approach, in a few short weeks we are seeing Tyjon and Montgomery in the thick of things. Such a move will earn him credit and time with the regime as they greedily eye another project and sale or two to improve their figures and get their bonuses.

I wonder what congratulations and rewards the stooges got from India after the Wharton sale went through. I bet they sat around congratulating themselves late at night as they worked out what perks they would get in return as a thanks from India. Now they want more.

While all this is going on remember that results on the pitch, developing, getting anywhere as a club - all totally and utterly irrelevant yet they expect you to pay for more of it. 

[Tomphil2]

The previous 30% youth policy under Broughton, under money saving instruction from his bosses, nearly got us relegated and they had to get Eustace in to stop that rot.

If Ismael doesn't get some backing he'll finish the job but i remain convinced some inside Ewood would be more than happy with a new low level low cost league 1 BRFC.

 

[Ossydave]

5 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

 

If Ismael doesn't get some backing he'll finish the job but i remain convinced some inside Ewood would be more than happy with a new low level low cost league 1 BRFC.

 

Maybe not initially but if we dropped to league 1 and were right up in the promotion mix, you'd expect some half decent crowds too, the winning feeling will always stir interest on that front. From what I've seen, league 1 is the poorest it's been for a while this season as well so even with departures we'd probably be up there with a team we cobbled together. 

I don't think Swag especially would be too concerned about relegation given his short term/selfish goals....

[Tomphil2]

3 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Maybe not initially but if we dropped to league 1 and were right up in the promotion mix, you'd expect some half decent crowds too, the winning feeling will always stir interest on that front. From what I've seen, league 1 is the poorest it's been for a while this season as well so even with departures we'd probably be up there with a team we cobbled together. 

I don't think Swag especially would be too concerned about relegation given his short term/selfish goals....

I don't think it's the actual aim i just don't think some of them way up in the top offices care if it happens because it will present other opportunities that are already known.

Such as owners getting away with sponsoring club annually for less money rather than the benefactor model, downgrade academy and fit everything onto one site - already mentioned a few years ago. Then flogging off whatever they can to pay for it all and take their commission.

Already tried but thwarted.

Listen to Suhail words in the interview about everyone expecting us to be relegated last season, they absolutely know running with the model they now do it's a massive risk and it's inevitable sooner or later.

So why do it ?  Why not manage upwards and tell the owners we really need a bit extra to strengthen and guard against the drop, instead it's just a shoulder shrug and a prayer or two then wing it.

Edited yesterday at 08:08 by Tomphil2

[StHelensRover]

Rudy Gestede is appearing on Sam Allardyce's podcast this week, no doubt to go all out on the charm offensive for these arseholes who own and run our club.

I can't understand how/why he is getting on podcasts. He had an average at best playing career and has done a diploma and a bit of work experience in football club management. What knowledge and eye-opening experience does he have to impart on the masses? Imo, none.

[MarkBRFC]

I'm sure Sam will reign it in on this one, but it's fairly interesting considering how critical he has been of venkys on past episodes.

[Mattyblue]

He’s getting on podcasts because it’s a jobs for the boys industry and they all call in favours when required.

[cesus]

50 minutes ago, Mattyblue said:

He’s getting on podcasts because it’s a jobs for the boys industry and they all call in favours when required.

100%

Jerome Anderson called in a favour all those years ago too and got a free unopposed run on Sky Sports News, he even got to cry about his son and was never questioned about him not here on merit. 

[Herbie6590]

21 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

That twitter account is this guy by the way...

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/9169044.rebel-rovers-fans-set-fc-blackburn/

So he's gone from wanting to set up a rival club 14 years ago to being venkys number one fan now.

Strange eh?

Grandson of Derrick Keighley...

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

And still after all the negative exposure on Media and Social platforms that has gone across the World,the Venkys,our so-called Owners remain silent and aloof.

[Herbie6590]

3 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

And still after all the negative exposure on Media and Social platforms that has gone across the World,the Venkys,our so-called Owners remain silent and aloof.

Are they even aware ? 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

We have to hope Ian,it feels increasingly like its all we have left.

We have to hope they are aware unless the three Stooges keep selling them a Pup....all is well,nothing to see here Madame!

Never known Owners of a Football club so distant and uninterested,it beggars belief.We have zero direction nor expectation/targets from the very top.No successful Business structure can be run like that.

Compare our lot to the Dingles Alan Pace who comes across as invested,invovled and present at most games...he appears to give a toss.

Edited yesterday at 10:42 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[Wheelton Blue]

The root cause of the problems with BRFC stems from the owners not giving a hoot.

This then permeates throughout the club.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

....And that is how Swindlers and Chancers are allowed to thrive.

[SuperBrfc]

3 hours ago, Tomphil2 said:

 

Listen to Suhail words in the interview about everyone expecting us to be relegated last season, they absolutely know running with the model they now do it's a massive risk and it's inevitable sooner or later.

So why do it ?  Why not manage upwards and tell the owners we really need a bit extra to strengthen and guard against the drop, instead it's just a shoulder shrug and a prayer or two then wing it.

I often recall how a former SEM stooge, who thought we were 'entitled' fans, was on social media trying to suggest that the Portsmouth and Wigan fans would swap their FA Cup trophies for Championship stability. Making out as if being stable in this Division was the be all and end all. He was also keen to point out how difficult it was for relegated teams to make it back to the Premier League and spouted on about FFP. When certain posts of his were shared on here, he deleted them and made his account private for a couple of days. Strange.

On a different note, I think Suhail let something slip in passing during the three stooges interview that says plenty for me:

"Obviously, the cost base would increase in the Premier League".

This was said in the context of it currently costing around £43m to run the club, not directly about promotion. However, I think the bit in bold is a factor behind the cost cutting crew seemingly being content with staying in this Division.

We go up, costs immediately go up. I'm sure recent Premier League rule changes mean we would have to upgrade certain areas of the stadium, such as facilities for the disabled, the press etc.

That's before even mentioning the rise in expectation levels, wages, the need for Premier League quality signings and global attention being on the club. There's no room to plead poverty with £150m having been received, no room for a batch of frees and loans in the Premier League, no room for a "development project", no hiding place.

If you are a non footballing person, who has little knowledge of the game, who doesn't understand the importance of Premier League football for the club and town, who is only looking at things in terms of how expensive you think it would be for the owners...then you do what we are seeing.

Managing upwards requires asking the owners for more money.

"The owners have been so generous to us, we need to give them something back. We can't keep asking them to spend more money each time". (Waggott in 2018)

Survival for as cheap as they can do, is what it looks like at upper level. While we hope JDT, Eustace and now Ismael pulls off what many of us have wanted for 12 years and counting. I hope I am wrong, but I think Ismael will go the same way as the previous two managers have done.

Pasha out. Waggott out. Venky's out.