Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[simongarnerisgod]

41 minutes ago, RoverDom said:

To do that we need to know the plan 

there is`nt a plan and never has been under the chicken killers,the only plan i can see is the one swag and pasha devised and it means then getting richer by the year

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

Run like a cheap Pound Shop,that's the project.

The warning signs are there for all to see.

Edited yesterday at 21:35 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[47er]

2 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

"The budget will remain the same"

Is all I need to know. One of the lowest in the Championship.

No ambition and no backing in the market is the conclusion.

and no hope....

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How on earth do you manage to suck the life out of a Premier league team?

Come on, we were a Premier league team .

How do you go from comfortable earners to scrimp n Scrapers? 

Sell us. 

Give us something to actually thank you for. 

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

The postive thing is that now that Glen and co have got the 3 stooges to crawl out from under their rocks, they will continue to shoot themselves in the foot and fuel the anti Venkys sentiment. 

We must keep up the pressure no matter what 

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10 hours ago, RoverDom said:

To do that we need to know the plan 

After 15 years there can't be any trust anymore unless a miracle happens this summer. 

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10 hours ago, RoverDom said:

To do that we need to know the plan 

After 15 years there can't be any trust anymore unless a miracle happens this summer. 

[Tomphil2]

9 hours ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Run like a cheap Pound Shop,that's the project.

The warning signs are there for all to see.

When Rovers were a really potless outfit in the 80's they were known throughout the game for the top notch Northern hospitality and boardroom spread that put many bigger clubs to shame.

They also managed to produce a matchday programme regularly voted the best in the league.

Now under these people the programmes were completely ditched a few years ago and the hospitality for visiting press is virtually non existent.

As pointed out it quite rightly sums up the whole operation and embarrassing it's pointed out on a podcast.

[glen9mullan]

55 minutes ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

The postive thing is that now that Glen and co have got the 3 stooges to crawl out from under their rocks, they will continue to shoot themselves in the foot and fuel the anti Venkys sentiment. 

We must keep up the pressure no matter what 

It's unbelievable really how much of the narrative they are writing by their badly thought out words. You'd think they were part of the supporter coalition as they are creating that many 'gimmes" , they are genuinely making this easier with each breath.

The total inconsistencies from interview to interview are not alarming, they just confirm what many suspected , an enterprise run with no clear credible leadership or sustainable path.

[DE.]

If they were smart, they'd just trot Waggott out for interviews. He's been in the game long enough to master the art of saying a lot without actually saying anything. 

Gestede is a novice and every interview he's involved in exposes that. There's an air of arrogance to his demeanour as well which makes it worse, as he hasn't earned the right to have his words taken seriously let alone trusted. It's possible he's trying to project confidence rather than arrogance, but it's definitely the latter to me. 

[Tomphil2]

Eustace wanted experience and a bit of quality to help push for promotion and obviously prevent the previous seasons near relegation happening again.

Which was caused in part by filling the squad with kids and bringing in poor cheap back up players to develop who offered nothing when called upon. 

So what do the 'powers' inside the club do ? Give him a few token signings then insist on the 30% youth pathway being re-implemented to which Eustace obviously wasn't onboard.  So that was probably the beginning of the end for him as he wouldn't comply to the Suhail cheapo project.

Rudy has let the cat out the bag there quietly if you listen closely to that interview then he says they wanted someone for the 'project' long term, so they hire a guy with more clubs than Rory under his belt.

Grow another team over a few seasons, sell it, pay down borrowings and % for snouts in the trough and go again, their gravy train continues whilst fans are expected to pay towards it yet expect nothing but having a team on the pitch.

[DE.]

53 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Grow another team over a few seasons, sell it, pay down borrowings and % for snouts in the trough and go again, their gravy train continues whilst fans are expected to pay towards it yet expect nothing but having a team on the pitch.

Tbf, Waggott already told us this was the plan back when JDT was in charge. He literally said, during that infamous leased coach interview, that the objective is purely to stay in the division and sell players for profit. That was a couple of years ago and evidently nothing has changed. At the very least, you can't say the club is lacking transparency in this regard. Waggott and now Gestede have been very clear that you are paying to come and watch a development squad tasked purely with staying in the division. Fans that aren't protesting in some way or backing the coalition are accepting this as the club's purpose for existing. The hierarchy couldn't have made it any clearer. 

There is a project, but it doesn't involve getting into the PL. That isn't even a secondary objective - it doesn't matter to them. It's why no manager with ambition is ever going to stay here for very long. 

 

[glen9mullan]

We've some news to release soon (maybe tonight subject to some internal sign offs of timing and format) which hopefully will trigger a chain of events to aid credibility of the "Coalition".

Some serious hours daily are being thrown at this effort from many hands and it's nice to see breakthroughs as they occur

[Mattyblue]

‘We are a development club - but please give us up to £500 for a season ticket’

’No’ being the response from the fanbase… guess what, actions have consequences 

[Forever Blue]

It’s a crazy thing for a professional sports team in a league system to admit to a strategy that lacks any discernible ambition, and is purely interested in just covering costs.
 

It’s even crazier when you think about the rewards for just showing a modicum of ambition.

Gestede really is the gift that keeps on giving. I hope the Coalition explain to the wider fanbase exactly what the club,  via Rudy, have just admitted to. 
 

So roll up and buy a season ticket to watch a development team. 🤣

[47er]

So we watch a development team but pay real team money for the privilege?

[Forever Blue]

1 minute ago, 47er said:

So we watch a development team but pay real team money for the privilege?

and be grateful🤣

[rigger]

3 hours ago, DE. said:

If they were smart, they'd just trot Waggott out for interviews. He's been in the game long enough to master the art of saying a lot without actually saying anything. 

Gestede is a novice and every interview he's involved in exposes that. There's an air of arrogance to his demeanour as well which makes it worse, as he hasn't earned the right to have his words taken seriously let alone trusted. It's possible he's trying to project confidence rather than arrogance, but it's definitely the latter to me. 

I think the tactic is, to make Gestede the target of the fans ire.

[DuffsLeftPeg]

3 minutes ago, rigger said:

I think the tactic is, to make Gestede the target of the fans ire.

I think the tactic is, by Gestede, to use the club to further his career. He’s just another Gregg Broughton, all be it with the clout of being an ex-pro.

Who knows, he might stay and become the next Edu at Arsenal. However he’ll be an Edu without any budget as that is all decided above him and it’s clear there isn’t a huge one.

He mentioned the Szmodics profit in the interview but this was before Venky’s financial issues reared their head and the fire sale of major assets began. There has been next to no serious investment in the squad since that summer when JDT arrived.

[roversinmyblood]

3 hours ago, DE. said:

Tbf, Waggott already told us this was the plan back when JDT was in charge. He literally said, during that infamous leased coach interview, that the objective is purely to stay in the division and sell players for profit. That was a couple of years ago and evidently nothing has changed. At the very least, you can't say the club is lacking transparency in this regard. Waggott and now Gestede have been very clear that you are paying to come and watch a development squad tasked purely with staying in the division. Fans that aren't protesting in some way or backing the coalition are accepting this as the club's purpose for existing. The hierarchy couldn't have made it any clearer. 

There is a project, but it doesn't involve getting into the PL. That isn't even a secondary objective - it doesn't matter to them. It's why no manager with ambition is ever going to stay here for very long. 

 

I think the word that describes it best is “stagnation”. No ambition other than minimise ownership support (cash) and stay mid table. 

[roversinmyblood]

3 hours ago, Mattyblue said:

‘We are a development club - but please give us up to £500 for a season ticket’

’No’ being the response from the fanbase… guess what, actions have consequences 

If us fans just wanted to watch a bit of footy on a Saturday we’d watch a lower league team, if we pay £500 we want a team with ambition and trying to reach the premier league. What do those thick bas****s not understand !? They clearly don’t think as a fan does. 

[Browjd]

As well as everything else, what really annoys me is when they refer to budgets and investment in players, they keep including the player's wages. So the measly "£5M" summer budget includes wages and is therefore probably half that.....

[Mattyblue]

9 minutes ago, roversinmyblood said:

If us fans just wanted to watch a bit of footy on a Saturday we’d watch a lower league team, if we pay £500 we want a team with ambition and trying to reach the premier league. What do those thick bas****s not understand !? They clearly don’t think as a fan does. 

Difference being if handed my dosh over to, say, Chorley, my expectation would be their board are doing everything they can to get the best possible side on the pitch their resources allow in order to progress up the league(s).

Edited 9 hours ago by Mattyblue

[Tomphil2]

4 hours ago, DE. said:

Tbf, Waggott already told us this was the plan back when JDT was in charge. He literally said, during that infamous leased coach interview, that the objective is purely to stay in the division and sell players for profit. That was a couple of years ago and evidently nothing has changed. At the very least, you can't say the club is lacking transparency in this regard. Waggott and now Gestede have been very clear that you are paying to come and watch a development squad tasked purely with staying in the division. Fans that aren't protesting in some way or backing the coalition are accepting this as the club's purpose for existing. The hierarchy couldn't have made it any clearer. 

There is a project, but it doesn't involve getting into the PL. That isn't even a secondary objective - it doesn't matter to them. It's why no manager with ambition is ever going to stay here for very long. 

 

And all that would be far more acceptable and understandable if it was being done with less wealthy hands on ownership who had an interest in and cared about the club and fans.

People who have no choice but to run it like that but are genuinely following a long term plan to try for the Prem or seek extra investment to do so.

Non of which applies to this lot, the ownership and fans are back to just providing a platform for a set of individuals to profit from the club whilst feeding their own egos and ambitions regardless of where we end up.

[DanielMB]

Did the Venkys ever find out about the fantastic system of promotions and relegations?