Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, StubbsUK said:

He was at a Q&A session with fans last year and made no secret that he was there to shadow Waggott and because CEO of a football club , someone asked if that was Rovers and he said something like maybe one day..

Wasn't it the Rovers Trust AGM?.

[glen9mullan]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Mike Graham the Rovers trust chairman mentioned this last summer that Gestede replacing Waggott as CEO when Waggott goes

I think everyone guessed this would happen a year ago ,but had no clear source of that being the case.

The club at board level have denied this being true.

 

[roversfan99]

What a joke of a club. Nothing will change for the better.

[glen9mullan]

11 minutes ago, StubbsUK said:

He was at a Q&A session with fans last year and made no secret that he was there to shadow Waggott and because CEO of a football club , someone asked if that was Rovers and he said something like maybe one day..

In his recent interview he suggest the next step is director of football and hopefully the top role one day at a club.

Nothing wrong with ambition, but that job being already mapped at Rovers is not true.

Will it become reality one day, I suspect no, as we are gonna kick those legs from the stool

[JHRover]

Why can't we just operate like a normal football club / organisation?

At any other operation of this size there would not be some drawn out succession / apprenticeship where Waggott creeps towards retirement and then by the time he goes Gestede has been groomed to take over from him.

You'd just go out into the big wide world and recruit a proven operator qualified to drive the club forwards.

In 15 years these owners have never wanted or taken seriously the need for a proper executive, and that obviously remains the case today.

Nobody will persuade me otherwise that the only reason Waggott turned up and got the job was because Uncle Tony knew him from Coventry and recommended/supported his appointment to the head honchos. Too much of a coincidence otherwise. 

Even if you ignore Waggott's dismal track record and performance at the club it has been obvious for years that his time must be limited - he's 71 soon - the club has had years to plan for his departure / replacement and they are unsurprisingly going to respond to it by appointing Rudy work experience Gestede to the top job so that he can work in tandem with the curtain twitcher.

You wouldn't get such shenanigans at non-league clubs.

I hope people remember this when they start attempting to convince themselves and others that Venkys have learned hard lessons and were once badly advised but are now doing things correctly. Absolutely laughable. 

[47er]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

so Nicko story is no surprised to me in fact anyone. 

 

It ought to be though.

[Tomphil2]

Puppets installed throughout the club.

Saying yes when you should say yes, being told no shut up and be quiet and promising never to rock the boat or stray from the 'owners are great' line all more important than team progress.

Only experience needed at Ewood is arse kissing.

[glen9mullan]

5 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Puppets installed throughout the club.

Saying yes when you should say yes, being told no shut up and be quiet and promising never to rock the boat or stray from the 'owners are great' line all more important than team progress.

Only experience needed at Ewood is arse kissing.

It becomes even more alarming when you check their cvs and do background checks.

Does no one at Rovers check their claims made when interviewing?

We've employees claiming to have run global enterprises working on multi million pound contracts, who when you research the companies. Haven't even filed an account or have been struck off in less than a year.

This alone is grounds for dismissal especially when the very things they are responsible for is falling to pieces.

Complete amateurs 

[lraC]

16 minutes ago, JHRover said:

Why can't we just operate like a normal football club / organisation?

At any other operation of this size there would not be some drawn out succession / apprenticeship where Waggott creeps towards retirement and then by the time he goes Gestede has been groomed to take over from him.

You'd just go out into the big wide world and recruit a proven operator qualified to drive the club forwards.

In 15 years these owners have never wanted or taken seriously the need for a proper executive, and that obviously remains the case today.

Nobody will persuade me otherwise that the only reason Waggott turned up and got the job was because Uncle Tony knew him from Coventry and recommended/supported his appointment to the head honchos. Too much of a coincidence otherwise. 

Even if you ignore Waggott's dismal track record and performance at the club it has been obvious for years that his time must be limited - he's 71 soon - the club has had years to plan for his departure / replacement and they are unsurprisingly going to respond to it by appointing Rudy work experience Gestede to the top job so that he can work in tandem with the curtain twitcher.

You wouldn't get such shenanigans at non-league clubs.

I hope people remember this when they start attempting to convince themselves and others that Venkys have learned hard lessons and were once badly advised but are now doing things correctly. Absolutely laughable. 

Is it too much of a coincidence that he was at Charlton, when none other than our ex super player, Myles Anderson was hawked around as a posible transfer?

Putting two and two together, I wonder if there is any connection between Waggott and the supper players, super agent father?

[Tomphil2]

I suspect whoever gets them their foot in the door's word is more important than cv's.

These lot must have a hell of a staff turnover in India if they operate the same way.

 

[Tomphil2]

4 minutes ago, lraC said:

Is it too much of a coincidence that he was at Charlton, when none other than our ex super player, Myles Anderson was hawked around as a posible transfer?

Putting two and two together, I wonder if there is any connection between Waggott and the supper players, super agent father?

I reckon it's nailed on there is.

Consider the same agents allegedly got 4 managers on the bounce through the door, one of them being Mowbray i'd figure they also brought in Waggot.

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, scotchrover said:

I suspect you might be already on with this, but would it be worthwhile trying to get some high profile celebrities on board with the letter writing?  With the Indian class system, they might take more notice (albeit wrongly), of someone like Liam Livingstone, especially if they’ve seen him play. 

Absolutely no way would Livingstone bite the hand that feeds him. He's not that guy. 

[Wheelton Blue]

How the heck does someone go from a purely sporting role (DOF) to a holistic business role (CEO)?

Surely it's a different skillset.

And that's ignoring the question of whether said person is qualified for the DOF role in the first place!

'Succession planning' the Venky way. 

[JHRover]

19 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said:

How the heck does someone go from a purely sporting role (DOF) to a holistic business role (CEO)?

Surely it's a different skillset.

And that's ignoring the question of whether said person is qualified for the DOF role in the first place!

'Succession planning' the Venky way. 

They still have this archaic and frankly weird personal trust thing, where they don't trust anyone other than a select few individuals who are usually underqualified or unqualified for the job but get it because they are nice people or Venkys trust them.

We saw it with the Kean and Anderson shenanigans at the start, we've seen it with Bowyer and Mowbray getting into their good books and being trusted to get on with it for a while. We've seen it with the curtain twitcher and Waggott trusted to look after it for a while.

They'll never go into the world market and headhunt or identify a proven operator. Two reasons. One is that such a person would expect certain things - strategy, direction, autonomy - none of which they are willing to provide - another reason is that they aren't actually looking for a CEO and never have - they are looking for a yes man, box ticker, puppet. Someone who will be grateful for the position, prawn sandwiches and pretending to be a CEO, but in practice just carrying out the shadow man's directions and playing the Venky game whilst providing a facade to the media and fans that there is some normality here.

So what we are seeing with Gestede is the old 'trust building' process whereby they ensure that he is the sort they like and then they can plonk him into position in the directors box wearing his fancy suit and talking a good game and that's all there is to it. 

[rigger]

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

How the heck does someone go from a purely sporting role (DOF) to a holistic business role (CEO)?

Surely it's a different skillset.

And that's ignoring the question of whether said person is qualified for the DOF role in the first place!

'Succession planning' the Venky way. 

And yet people will still buy season tickets ???

[miqaayil]

2 hours ago, glen9mullan said:

It becomes even more alarming when you check their cvs and do background checks.

Does no one at Rovers check their claims made when interviewing?

We've employees claiming to have run global enterprises working on multi million pound contracts, who when you research the companies. Haven't even filed an account or have been struck off in less than a year.

This alone is grounds for dismissal especially when the very things they are responsible for is falling to pieces.

Complete amateurs 

amateurs is a wrong word ....the word is professional grifters.. its nothing but a milking job for 13 years ...and i've not dug deep and if we did we will find kentaro strings 

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Can the heat be sustained in the off season? @glen9mullan

[Tomphil2]

1 hour ago, miqaayil said:

amateurs is a wrong word ....the word is professional grifters.. its nothing but a milking job for 13 years ...and i've not dug deep and if we did we will find kentaro strings 

Still running the club via proxy (swaghail) would not surprise me in the slightest.

10% of all ins and outs over a decade and a half is some serious money.

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[Tomphil2]

4 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said:

How the heck does someone go from a purely sporting role (DOF) to a holistic business role (CEO)?

Surely it's a different skillset.

And that's ignoring the question of whether said person is qualified for the DOF role in the first place!

'Succession planning' the Venky way. 

Surely there has to be some type of qualification criteria to be a Chief Executive of a Championship club ?

[rigger]

15 minutes ago, Tomphil2 said:

Surely there has to be some type of qualification criteria to be a Chief Executive of a Championship club ?

Not at the Rovers.

[M_B]

1 hour ago, ... said:

This is were educating people comes in.

 

A man takes his vintage classic car to a garage. 

The mechanic, dressed in all the right gear and looking like he knows what he's doing says "your pride and joy will be absolutely fine and will be left in capable hands"

Reassured the man leaves his beloved Blue and White Rover with the garage.

A couple of days later the man returns.

The mechanic tells the man that it's fixed and will continue to run like it used to.

The man believes the mechanic and goes away only to discover that his Rover is nowhere near as good as it was despite the mechanic telling him it is and as each day goes by, something else goes wrong and the car deteriorates over many years, sad and upset and angry at the amount of money he's spent on his beloved Rover, the man had had enough. 

Feeling ripped off with nothing to show for his money and promises from the mechanic about buying new, better parts to make his car work efficiently, the man decides Enough is Enough and doesn't spend anymore money funding a mechanic that has no clue about cars. 

If you're arrogant enough to believe you're in a position to educate people, you might want to start with knowing when to use were or where.

It's definitely being ramped up.

[chaddyrovers]

6 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Absolutely no way would Livingstone bite the hand that feeds him. He's not that guy. 

He would be turning his back on millions and millions pounds from the IPL contracts if he did, is that really realistic people? 

6 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said:

How the heck does someone go from a purely sporting role (DOF) to a holistic business role (CEO)?

Surely it's a different skillset.

And that's ignoring the question of whether said person is qualified for the DOF role in the first place!

'Succession planning' the Venky way. 

Yet Gestede qualifications were to leading him being a CEO of a club not head of football operations in the future. 

Stockport County have just appointed their Director of Football Simon Wilson has their new CEO of the club. Wilson appointed CEO - Stockport County

1 hour ago, Tomphil2 said:

Surely there has to be some type of qualification criteria to be a Chief Executive of a Championship club ?

why would they be really? 

Its a private owned business at the end of the day

4 hours ago, rigger said:

And yet people will still buy season tickets ???

yet people like yourself slagged off people who wanted to attend games and be a STH. 

I take you won't be attending next season? 

[Parsonblue]

5 hours ago, rigger said:

And yet people will still buy season tickets ???

And more than happy to have done so.

[Tugayisgod]

5 hours ago, rigger said:

And yet people will still buy season tickets ???

Are we becoming so polarised as a fan base that it's come to people criticising supporters who actually are getting a ticket for next season.?

A change of regime may be what a lot of people want but having a pop at fans who love the club as much as anyone doesn't do anyone any good.

If they want to go next season then they should be allowed to without stick, we are all Rovers supporters at the end of the day

Edited Sunday at 19:30 by Tugayisgod