Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[DuffsLeftPeg]

5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

The whole point to this is that the owners need to go and that applies regardless of how the team is doing. Linking it to team performance is exactly what they want to happen so they can brush it off as anger about results and not the existential crisis they have placed the club in.

My thoughts exactly @JHRover

The difference in overall mood since being 0-2 down to Sheff Weds at home to now is astounding.

All it has taken is a last minute equaliser and a couple of wins. 

 

[roversfan99]

53 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have posted plenty over recent times over things I would like to see change some things change whether its the ST prices for next season or how the club marketing ST, getting more fans back, different commercial strategy, different food offerings in the concourse, communication with the supporters, 

They are more minor issues in the grand scheme of things and arent really answering the question.

Forget the commercial side and the bloody food. Are you happy with the actual way that the club is run?

Managers leaving because they cant cope. Incompetent idiots running the operations of the club. A general high staff turnover. Absent owners who havent bothered attending in a decade and who Suhail has said have more important things to attend to. Pitiful budgets. A total unwillingness to reinvest a competitive amount of sales proceeds. Seasons that consistently nosedive half way through because the squad is never sturdy enough to compete over the full season. A novice director of football telling the head coach which style he wants to play and how many youngsters he needs to play.

Youve regularly defended a lot of these things in the past and seldom show much frustration in things above a commercial level so just curious as to what your actual opinion is.

Do you genuinely see a chance any time soon of getting promoted in the coming years with the current owners and board?

[J*B]

It’s quite simple - they’ve been here 15 years or so, can someone name me on thing that has been significantly improved during that period as a direct result of Venkys? I’ll take one, just one. 

[davulsukur]

Looks like Montgomery and Tyjon are in the squad today

[Mattyblue]

27 minutes ago, JHRover said:

On Saturday a number of people around me reacted with horror/confusion/outrage when people in the BBE started singing anti-Venky chants whilst we were 4-1 up. 

It seemed to me that the prevailing view of those people was that there was no reason or justification for such chants because the team was doing well and that it was inappropriate to be singing such things whilst we were hammering the opposition.

I struggled to understand the thought process there. I understand if you don't agree with anti-Venky chanting or noise full stop but I'm not sure why anyone would base their view on how the team is performing at any given time.

The whole point to this is that the owners need to go and that applies regardless of how the team is doing. Linking it to team performance is exactly what they want to happen so they can brush it off as anger about results and not the existential crisis they have placed the club in.

Can’t win with folk like that.

Chant 1-0 down ‘typical when we are getting beat, just get behind ‘em FFS!’

Chant 1-0 up ‘eh? What’s all this about, we are winning, just get behind ‘em FFS!’

A shed load of match goers just want to watch the game, so to answer SG’s point, yes they are content enough to put up with the status quo- and why you will NEVER get consistent protest in any great numbers at the ground if the team is even doing remotely ok.

So fellow posters, just forget about Ewood itself being some centre of dissent and let’s get behind Glen’s campaign FFS!

[Herbie6590]

46 minutes ago, J*B said:

It’s quite simple - they’ve been here 15 years or so, can someone name me on thing that has been significantly improved during that period as a direct result of Venkys? I’ll take one, just one. 

The fanbase’s knowledge of the Indian legal system 👍

[Mike E]

1 hour ago, J*B said:

It’s quite simple - they’ve been here 15 years or so, can someone name me on thing that has been significantly improved during that period as a direct result of Venkys? I’ll take one, just one. 

Even playing Devil’s Advocate, I can only offer a heavily caveated one:

We have hugely increased the number of academy prospects playing in the team, and therefore creating valuable assets to sell.*
 

*Because we are playing at a lower standard of football, where the likes of Gavin Gunning, Aaron Doran, Keith Treacy used to be loaned to. Now we play at that standard and they play for us instead of the minnows we used to send them to.

[J*B]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

Even playing Devil’s Advocate, I can only offer a heavily caveated one:

We have hugely increased the number of academy prospects playing in the team, and therefore creating valuable assets to sell.*
 

*Because we are playing at a lower standard of football, where the likes of Gavin Gunning, Aaron Doran, Keith Treacy used to be loaned to. Now we play at that standard and they play for us instead of the minnows we used to send them to.

+ aren’t signing ready made players.

[miqaayil]

3 hours ago, J*B said:

It’s quite simple - they’ve been here 15 years or so, can someone name me on thing that has been significantly improved during that period as a direct result of Venkys? I’ll take one, just one. 

do they sell better fried chicken in EWOOD? i'm hoping at least that improved 

[Exiled_Rover]

4 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

The fanbase’s knowledge of the Indian legal system 👍

I'm unconvinced that they have one. 

[chaddyrovers]

6 hours ago, DuffsLeftPeg said:

Would you take a few seasons of pain & potentially being relegated to League 2 if it led to better ownership & running of the club and all of your gripes addressed?

I’m just curious to understand the mindset? I get the feeling from friends of a similar view that they wouldn’t be happy if results took a major slide leading to relegation to League 1 and potentially further.

For me, unless there is a major cash injection from the owners and their financial issues in India suddenly disappear, that is exactly what is coming.

There are very few saleable assets left of the magnitude of Wharton & Smzodics given the lack of any serious investment in the team since the summer transfer window in 2022.

I am Rovers fan till I die. I will always support Blackburn Rovers. 

We been to league 1 under this ownership in 2017/18 season and they didn't sell. 

[lraC]

More from Rory.

 

 

[Leonard Venkhater]

26 minutes ago, lraC said:

More from Rory.

 

 

Good lad, Rory. Just when my spirits were flagging. Targeting Suhail, the shadow man, whose hands are dirty with the demise of our club

Making me angry all over again...

Think Michael Douglas in Falling Down!

Edited Monday at 20:04 by Leonard Venkhater

[chaddyrovers]

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

They are more minor issues in the grand scheme of things and arent really answering the question.

Forget the commercial side and the bloody food.

These might be minor issues to you RF99 but I see these issues has important issues and it happy keeping your supporters happy. 

You keep mentioning pints of lagers and waiting times for a pint, where this just a minor issue, no can you want it raising at the Club fan forum meeting, so what the difference? NONE. 

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Are you happy with the actual way that the club is run?

is this a serious questions, given what I have said about season tickets prices, how we communicate Season ticket to the supporters/stakeholders by going in different areas with leaflet campaign outside the BwD area. The club reaching out in all schools, etc to attract new fans outside the BwD area. Making all fans feel part of the club whether they are STH, match day buyer or just the occasional march buyer. More fan interactions especially at the younger age bracket

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Managers leaving because they cant cope. Incompetent idiots running the operations of the club. A general high staff turnover. Absent owners who havent bothered attending in a decade and who Suhail has said have more important things to attend to. Pitiful budgets. A total unwillingness to reinvest a competitive amount of sales proceeds. Seasons that consistently nosedive half way through because the squad is never sturdy enough to compete over the full season.

We seen JDT leave cos the project had changed from the one he signed up and after the first season. He wanted out that summer. Eustace left IMO cos he wanted control over recruitment and contracts but from one poster on here, when Eustace signed up here to replaced JDT he knew his role and how much of a say he would have. 

in Mowbray's last season, he wasn't willing to change formation when his plan A wasn't working and was far too stubborn again. Cost us a playoff place. 

In JDT's first season, had we signed Undav I firmly believe we would have got that playoff place, We had no Plan B striker when we should have done, That problem was GB and the recruitment team fault. 

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

A novice director of football telling the head coach which style he wants to play and how many youngsters he needs to play.

back to this BS again, This point has been explained to several posters. Its called a football strategy and we had a similar plan under JDT to play a certain play and develop our own players which I have no problem with. Plenty of clubs do it

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Youve regularly defended a lot of these things in the past and seldom show much frustration in things above a commercial level so just curious as to what your actual opinion is.

I have regular mentioned the commercial operation at Rovers not being good enough for ages so I have no idea what you are going on about here 

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Do you genuinely see a chance any time soon of getting promoted in the coming years with the current owners and board?

Of course we can. We have close in 2 out of three previous seasons and mentioned why I don't think we did. This season we have been there and we been on 1 terrible run where it was 2 wins in 11 under Eustace before he left and Ismael 1 point in his first 6 games which might have cost us this season.  If we don't this season then we need be more proactive in the Summer transfer window and bring in 2 or 3 signings before pre season and the rest after. Plus get rid of players we don't want or need

[DuffsLeftPeg]

6 hours ago, Mike E said:

Even playing Devil’s Advocate, I can only offer a heavily caveated one:

We have hugely increased the number of academy prospects playing in the team, and therefore creating valuable assets to sell.*
 

*Because we are playing at a lower standard of football, where the likes of Gavin Gunning, Aaron Doran, Keith Treacy used to be loaned to. Now we play at that standard and they play for us instead of the minnows we used to send them to.

Have we actually sold more Academy graduates post Venkys? A lot more have played for the first team but not many have been good enough to sell at any real value.

I stand to be corrected but Duff, Dunn and Phil Jones (established 1st team player prior to Venkys taking over) were probably sold for a greater value than any one after?

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, DuffsLeftPeg said:

I stand to be corrected but Duff, Dunn and Phil Jones (established 1st team player prior to Venkys taking over) were probably sold for a greater value than any one after?

Adam Wharton 18m plus 4.5m in adds on's and sell on clause of 15% so that will next the club in total over £27 to £35m depending how much he is sold for next 

[DuffsLeftPeg]

4 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Of course we can. We have close in 2 out of three previous seasons and mentioned why I don't think we did.

We’ve come close to getting in the Top 6 Chaddy. That is not the same as close to promotion, however which way you try to spin things in your contrarian way. 

Also your issues with the running of the club are all minor. There are much bigger things going on than how long it takes to queue for a pint and the food choices.

Please take this to another thread as it isn’t what this one is for.

[DuffsLeftPeg]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Adam Wharton 18m plus 4.5m in adds on's and sell on clause of 15% so that will next the club in total over £27 to £35m depending how much he is sold for next 

Duff, Dunn & Jones sold for £38.5 million combined.

No guarantees of any sell on so you cant count that yet. Jones also had a sell on clause at United but it never happened.

It’s a moot point but Venky’s haven’t improved the value of the academy since they’ve been here in my opinion, we’ve just been able to play more Academy graduates as we’re at a lower level.

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

These might be minor issues to you RF99 but I see these issues has important issues and it happy keeping your supporters happy. 

You keep mentioning pints of lagers and waiting times for a pint, where this just a minor issue, no can you want it raising at the Club fan forum meeting, so what the difference? NONE. 

is this a serious questions, given what I have said about season tickets prices, how we communicate Season ticket to the supporters/stakeholders by going in different areas with leaflet campaign outside the BwD area. The club reaching out in all schools, etc to attract new fans outside the BwD area. Making all fans feel part of the club whether they are STH, match day buyer or just the occasional march buyer. More fan interactions especially at the younger age bracket

We seen JDT leave cos the project had changed from the one he signed up and after the first season. He wanted out that summer. Eustace left IMO cos he wanted control over recruitment and contracts but from one poster on here, when Eustace signed up here to replaced JDT he knew his role and how much of a say he would have. 

in Mowbray's last season, he wasn't willing to change formation when his plan A wasn't working and was far too stubborn again. Cost us a playoff place. 

In JDT's first season, had we signed Undav I firmly believe we would have got that playoff place, We had no Plan B striker when we should have done, That problem was GB and the recruitment team fault. 

back to this BS again, This point has been explained to several posters. Its called a football strategy and we had a similar plan under JDT to play a certain play and develop our own players which I have no problem with. Plenty of clubs do it

I have regular mentioned the commercial operation at Rovers not being good enough for ages so I have no idea what you are going on about here 

Of course we can. We have close in 2 out of three previous seasons and mentioned why I don't think we did. This season we have been there and we been on 1 terrible run where it was 2 wins in 11 under Eustace before he left and Ismael 1 point in his first 6 games which might have cost us this season.  If we don't this season then we need be more proactive in the Summer transfer window and bring in 2 or 3 signings before pre season and the rest after. Plus get rid of players we don't want or need

The difference is, if someone asked me if I am happy with how the club is run, I wouldnt see that as relevant to the question. Its a yes or no question. If somebody asked specifically about the commercial operation or the match day experience, then your answer would be more relevant.

With the regular post christmas collapses and the repeated managers choosing to leave, there are clear patterns and underlying reasons. I find it absolutely incredible that you still havent joined the dots and picked up the pattern, instead putting it down to a series of individual circumstances. And of course doing your trademark move of laying the blame solely at individuals who you consistently defended/praised when at the club before pinning all blame on upon their departure.

Im not asking if you are participating in protest movements or anything here, or what you would do, just for your opinion. Simple yes or no questions upcoming. And its nothing to do with the commercial side or matchday experience. Are you happy with how the club is run from an ownership and board level? And what do you think (not did you participate) of the protest movements in the last month or two?

[chaddyrovers]

8 minutes ago, DuffsLeftPeg said:

We’ve come close to getting in the Top 6 Chaddy. That is not the same as close to promotion, however which way you try to spin things in your contrarian way. 

Also your issues with the running of the club are all minor. There are much bigger things going on than how long it takes to queue for a pint and the food choices.

Please take this to another thread as it isn’t what this one is for.

I was asked a series of questions from other posters I have answered them. 

3 minutes ago, DuffsLeftPeg said:

Duff, Dunn & Jones sold for £38.5 million combined.

No guarantees of any sell on so you cant count that yet. Jones also had a sell on clause at United but it never happened.

It’s a moot point but Venky’s haven’t improved the value of the academy since they’ve been here in my opinion, we’ve just been able to play more Academy graduates as we’re at a lower level.

That's 3 players vs 1. Rumours are around that Wharton will be sold this summer for between £70m to £100m.

[DuffsLeftPeg]

14 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I was asked a series of questions from other posters I have answered them. 

That's 3 players vs 1. Rumours are around that Wharton will be sold this summer for between £70m to £100m.

I’m sure Wharton will be sold, he’s an absolute genius of a footballer destined for a higher level than Palace. 

The original question was whether Venky’s have improved anything at the club since their arrival. And as it stands, the Academy has provided more or less the same value before & after their arrival. 

They’ve not even improved the fried chicken. They’re useless and they need to sell the club. 

Edited Monday at 21:08 by DuffsLeftPeg

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The difference is, if someone asked me if I am happy with how the club is run, I wouldnt see that as relevant to the question. Its a yes or no question. If somebody asked specifically about the commercial operation or the match day experience, then your answer would be more relevant.

I see that everything is relevant within the football and keeping and growing your supporters base as key aspect of the club. 

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

With the regular post christmas collapses and the repeated managers choosing to leave, there are clear patterns and underlying reasons. I find it absolutely incredible that you still havent joined the dots and picked up the pattern, instead putting it down to a series of individual circumstances. And of course doing your trademark move of laying the blame solely at individuals who you consistently defended/praised when at the club before pinning all blame on upon their departure.

I mentioned its alot during the last 2 months of Mowbray's reign that he was far too stubborn to admitted change of formation was needed and you defended him and wanted to stick with the false 9 formation even tho it wasn't working. 

We missed on the playoffs under JDT on Goal difference, had we signed Undav I think we wouldn't have missed on the playoffs

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Im not asking if you are participating in protest movements or anything here, or what you would do, just for your opinion. Simple yes or no questions upcoming. And its nothing to do with the commercial side or matchday experience.

 

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Are you happy with how the club is run from an ownership and board level?

FFS, I have answered all this haven't I with my answer to your questions and to other posters questions like MattyBlue. I have said this on the 30th March which will answer your question(again) " You need an owner or owners who want to own the club, run the club from Ewood Park/UK and understand how footballing world works and will appoint a CEO and board who understand the area/supporters base, how to run the club, price ST and match day tickets reasonable for the fan base considering a number of financial situations of people in local area, communicate to the Supporters and improve the commercial operations of the club. " 

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

And what do you think (not did you participate) of the protest movements in the last month or two?

I think Glen Mullan and others have done a very good job at bring so many people and opinions together and working as one. 

[roversfan99]

Not one for a simple answer to a simple question.

[chaddyrovers]

6 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Not one for a simple answer to a simple question.

You refused to answer basic simple questions over whether you bought or renew for this season or whether you will for next season,.so before you whinge and moan at others maybe try practicing what you are saying for once.

I leave it there

[J*B]

2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You refused to answer basic simple questions over whether you bought or renew for this season or whether you will for next season,.so before you whinge and moan at others maybe try practicing what you are saying for once.

I leave it there

You still can’t tell us one thing that has improved at this football club in 15 years.