Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[Devon Rover]

The bit that did annoy me in that statement was about the "two way engagement" with fan groups. As an outsider, this looks like a complete backfiring strategy, once again, of some 'fan representatives' holding conversations with Waggott/Suhail. If you keep doing this, you will be used, with your "engagement" held up in propaganda as wonderful positive work by our exec team. Those conversations are clearly doing more harm than good.

Overall, the statement avoids the main (Venkys) issue and is exactly the bland and dismissive response that was always inevitable. Which, I guess, moves us to the next actions that everyone involved in the media push today will have prepared for. 

How do we move forward with this, and how can we all support that?

[JHRover]

"While differences of opinion exist, our shared goal is clear - to drive the club forward together"

Potentially the most offensive, untrue and inflammatory official comment from the club I have seen

[BigHoz]

Block their entry. Hostile as possible from the moment they try enter the car park. 

[Neal]

I take my hat's off to you all. Nice to see there are still some willing to fight. 

 

The response of certain fans STILL after all these years are a big reason as to why I've made my decision to stay away and protest in my own way by encouraging others to not buy season tickets. These will be the same fans who were giving me shit as I stood there on my own in the Riverside with my Kean Out banner which was I think the first spark of the protests over 10 years ago. This is why physical protests (IMO) haven't worked and still won't work. These fans won't stand shoulder to shoulder with you. They will do the opposite. These people you will never get through to. They are how they are. Set in their ways. Will forever be shit on and say thanks. I envy and pity them at the same time. 

 

My personal opinion is to choose the most effective protest, which some may not agree with, not to try and get a protest to please everyone because it's not possible to bring everyone together, as romantic as it sounds we have to learn that it's not realistic. We have to learn from our previous efforts, a few banners, a few chants, protests weaker than those over a decade ago... Won't make a difference.  

 

I've seen the statement on sky. I mean this in the most respectful way as someone who stood with many of you in protests back in the day... What's the goal here? They stay away, then what? They still own the club, they still cut costs, the downward spiral continues. Is the next step to advise fans to hurt them financially? No merch, food or season tickets? I think this is the only language they speak and the only way to truly hurt them. Doing this to put them in the spotlight unfortunately is a fleeting issue in the media, we're not a fashionable or big enough story anymore. 

 

To be clear, I saw a post from someone, not sure if it was aimed at me but... I'm not telling anyone to boycott, all I'm trying to do is encourage people to not buy season tickets. If you must go, at least don't spend money there. 

 

Fuck off Waggot, Pasha, Venkys and your season ticket to watch you slowly kill our club. 

 

NO SEASON TICKETS. NO MERCH. NO FOOD & DRINK. 

Edited Friday at 15:08 by Neal

[Mattyblue]

The Facebook responses are interesting, hardly a pro-regime one to be seen… contrast that to a few months ago.

The tide has turned and they know it.

[glen9mullan]

Will digest with others this latest development.

However my early thoughts is 1-0 to the fans.

They ain't ever responded to a statement from supporters before.

Tomorrow will be interesting 

[glen9mullan]

8 minutes ago, Devon Rover said:

The bit that did annoy me in that statement was about the "two way engagement" with fan groups. As an outsider, this looks like a complete backfiring strategy, once again, of some 'fan representatives' holding conversations with Waggott/Suhail. If you keep doing this, you will be used, with your "engagement" held up in propaganda as wonderful positive work by our exec team. Those conversations are clearly doing more harm than good.

Overall, the statement avoids the main (Venkys) issue and is exactly the bland and dismissive response that was always inevitable. Which, I guess, moves us to the next actions that everyone involved in the media push today will have prepared for. 

How do we move forward with this, and how can we all support that?

I agree, engagement awful, limited to a few and hardly anything shared.

Zero interviews with local media

[martonrover]

9 minutes ago, JHRover said:

"While differences of opinion exist, our shared goal is clear - to drive the club forward together"

Potentially the most offensive, untrue and inflammatory official comment from the club I have seen

I’ve just posted pretty much exactly the same on ‘X’.

Only the most ignorant, stupid, Burnley genes encroaching westward types won’t have an issue with that.

[sharpysharps86]

Next Friday will be very interesting, especially if Rovers lose tomorrow.

[martonrover]

5 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Will digest with others this latest development.

However my early thoughts is 1-0 to the fans.

They ain't ever responded to a statement from supporters before.

Tomorrow will be interesting 

Agreed, they are feeling the heat.

To quote Corporal Jones, “They don’t like it up ‘em”.

Back in the spotlight .

Job done.

[JHRover]

Neil Yardley's phone will be ringing off the hook this afternoon as Waggott/Gestede hurry to arrange an in-house interview to try and head off this anger and 'prove' their communication efforts via a comfy sit down chat at Brockhall. 

That's the usual way of it - once the fans discover a plot or anger is building then do a 10 minute planned interview and come out with a few of the typical soundbites to try and pacify the support base.

[Kernow Rover]

11 minutes ago, Neal said:

I take my hat's off to you all. Nice to see there are still some willing to fight. 

 

The response of certain fans STILL after all these years are a big reason as to why I've made my decision to stay away and protest in my own way by encouraging others to not buy season tickets. These will be the same fans who were giving me shit as I stood there on my own in the Riverside with my Kean Out banner which was I think the first spark of the protests over 10 years ago. This is why physical protests (IMO) haven't worked and still won't work. These fans won't stand shoulder to shoulder with you. They will do the opposite. These people you will never get through to. They are how they are. Set in their ways. Will forever be shit on and say thanks. I envy and pity them at the same time. 

 

My personal opinion is to choose the most effective protest, which some may not agree with, not to try and get a protest to please everyone because it's not possible to bring everyone together, as romantic as it sounds we have to learn that it's not realistic. We have to learn from our previous efforts, a few banners, a few chants, protests weaker than those over a decade ago... Won't make a difference.  

 

I've seen the statement on sky. I mean this in the most respectful way as someone who stood with many of you in protests back in the day... What's the goal here? They stay away, then what? They still own the club, they still cut costs, the downward spiral continues. Is the next step to advise fans to hurt them financially? No merch, food or season tickets? I think this is the only language they speak and the only way to truly hurt them. Doing this to put them in the spotlight unfortunately is a fleeting issue in the media, we're not a fashionable or big enough story anymore. 

 

To be clear, I saw a post from someone, not sure if it was aimed at me but... I'm not telling anyone to boycott, all I'm trying to do is encourage people to not buy season tickets. 

 

Fuck off Waggot, Pasha, Venkys and your season ticket to watch you slowly kill our club. 

 

NO SEASON TICKETS. NO MERCH. NO FOOD & DRINK. 

as many have mentioned on this thread Neal: Glen, Josh and co have now forced their hand in actively refusing the groups' 'respectful' wishes. Cameras on them for the rest of the season. It was their move, and what do you know, they s**t the bed. 

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

12 minutes ago, glen9mullan said:

Will digest with others this latest development.

However my early thoughts is 1-0 to the fans.

They ain't ever responded to a statement from supporters before.

Tomorrow will be interesting 

100%. The speed with which they've released the statement speaks volumes. And the beaty of the approach means that the inevitable bland club statement changes nothing, the heat is on them more than it ever will have been and nothing they can do or say will stop it. 

[Exiled_Rover]

1 minute ago, Kernow Rover said:

as many have mentioned on this thread Neal: Glen, Josh and co have now forced their hand in actively refusing the groups' 'respectful' wishes. Cameras on them for the rest of the season. It was their move, and what do you know, they s**t the bed. 

I mean the opening move is checkmate in terms of their response - they can't come out and say "fair enough, we recognise we're a big part of the problem and we'll stay away".

They'll massage the public message for a bit now - sit down interviews with Waggott and co, club statements etc. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

32 minutes ago, JHRover said:

"While differences of opinion exist, our shared goal is clear - to drive the club forward together"

Potentially the most offensive, untrue and inflammatory official comment from the club I have seen

Nothing but Hyperbole,highly Offensive and insulting to our Intelligence.

The Brass Neck if it!!!

Edited Friday at 15:27 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[K-Hod]

My God, those in power at Rovers are complete throbbers, aren’t they?

We deserve so much better.

[StHelensRover]

1 minute ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

Nothing but Hyperbole,insulting to our intelligence.

Exactly, they cannot give one single example in 15 years of where they have driven the club forward.

(unless you count promotion from the third tier, which was an absolute embarrassment they caused in the first place!!)

15 years of humiliation, zero progress.

[cesus]

I always found Andy Cryer to be an asset with regards to speaking to national outlets. The LT have even more of a grievance now as the powers that be completely ignore them .... It is your chance to shine Mr Jackson.

[Disgruntled Rover]

Hypothetically of course, similar to Reading's tennis ball protest, and as a symbol of the owners' other business interests, would eggs making their way onto the pitch be an effective way of promoting our cause?

Shattered shell on the pitch would surely pose a danger to players and lead to the game being abandoned, or at least delayed, leading to nationwide or worldwide exposure of our plight.

[Riverside under the drip]

6 minutes ago, Disgruntled Rover said:

Hypothetically of course, similar to Reading's tennis ball protest, and as a symbol of the owners' other business interests, would eggs making their way onto the pitch be an effective way of promoting our cause?

Shattered shell on the pitch would surely pose a danger to players and lead to the game being abandoned, or at least delayed, leading to nationwide or worldwide exposure of our plight.

Easter is coming up. There are many things egg-related in the shops which wouldn't be a danger to complain about but would be the same theme. Should someone want to disrupt games, of course...

[Browjd]

Eggs does have the poultry angle....

[roverandout]

It would be eggcellent and eggxtremely good if we could get these mother pluckers out

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, Neal said:

 

To be clear, I saw a post from someone, not sure if it was aimed at me but... I'm not telling anyone to boycott, all I'm trying to do is encourage people to not buy season tickets. If you must go, at least don't spend money there. 

I'm a bit confused by this part though. If they're going to go anyway, they're spending more money by buying a ticket for every game than if they just bought a season ticket.

Surely it's just boycott or don't. I'm not sure why season tickets specifically come into it?

[Neal]

1 hour ago, Kernow Rover said:

as many have mentioned on this thread Neal: Glen, Josh and co have now forced their hand in actively refusing the groups' 'respectful' wishes. Cameras on them for the rest of the season. It was their move, and what do you know, they s**t the bed. 

I understand 👍🏻 not being privy to what the plan is from the action group and others involved, all I'm doing is pointing out the inevitability of the only effective approach that we haven't attempted yet... Financially. 

[Neal]

4 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

I'm a bit confused by this part though. If they're going to go anyway, they're spending more money by buying a ticket for every game than if they just bought a season ticket.

Surely it's just boycott or don't. I'm not sure why season tickets specifically come into it?

Fair point... Because realistically we're not going to empty the ground, people will still go but maybe we can convince those people to at least not buy pints there and instead invest it in local pubs in the surrounding area and come at it from that angle. Reduce the income for them, make it harder for them to run/fund the club. 

Edited Friday at 16:41 by Neal