Venky’s & Waggott Out Protest Ideas

[RoversClitheroe]

1 hour ago, JHRover said:

I also find it really weird how Suhail is then questioned on retail and Ewood Park issues like season tickets, the Riverside, club shop, prices. They've admitted that he is more involved in the commercial side of things.

It's just very strange, he admits to being involved with the purchase of the club by Venkys back in 2010, he admits to have been hands on at the club since 2015, and now a decade on he finally offers himself up in public but much of his topic of discussion is about what I would describe as fairly trivial matters in the grand scheme of things. 

On the one hand he's obviously the owners' man, representative and despite his claims I suspect the only one with a direct line to India, and is clearly trusted by them having been involved for well over a decade, yet we are now supposed to believe after all this time he is spending his days attempting to improve the Ewood Park atmosphere and worrying about kits and ticket prices and he's reporting to Waggott on such things? Nonsense IMO.

It's bollocks surely.

How can the owners representative report into a CEO? Hahaha

It doesn't work like that.

[JHRover]

Waggott also claimed that his contract was direct with the ownership group. That can't be correct, if he is an employee and director of BRFC then his contract of employment must be with BRFC as the club pays his wages.

[bluebruce]

7 hours ago, toogs said:

Every little helps.
 

Last look the YT video had had 10k views. How does that compare to the LET comments section? Which seem to be perceived as carrying a lot of weight on here. 
 

The YT video is an official production from the club and the comments are universally negative against the club.
 

The comments are so negative, I doubt they will be using that media channel outlet again any time soon. 

Whilst the video is there, people can link to it and say “read the comments”  

So reacting to the video does serve a purpose. 

Unless you mean thumbs down in isolation doesn’t do anything other than influence the algorithm, then I agree. 
 

But do comment people!

I'm saying the thumbs down doesn't work. It doesn't counteract a thumbs up. It's basically there for your own satisfaction. It influences the algorithm in one way - it affects what you, the person who left the thumbs down, may see in future. It doesn't affect other people's algorithms.

Comments are useful though.

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, StHelensRover said:

More absolute lunacy on the latest LT article about the sale of the club. 

Again, just one post in support of the club being sold about about 20 in favour of the owners.

We should register en masse for the LT and pack the comments with the truth. We need to dictate the narrative towards accuracy and moving on from these charlatans.

[damo100]

40 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Good to see them rattled but I cant see anything changing.

They just say the same things, the owners clearly arent interested but they claim they are. Lots of excuses, lots of hot air, lots of waffle.

The work done in the last week has been excellent in at least rattling them although I do think there is maybe a little lack of direction regarding the next step. Depressingly feels like a lost cause though, the only solution is an ownership change and it wont happen.

That's the spirit 

[MCMC1875]

From the WATR newsletter:

"Yasir Sufi also told us to forget about re-engagement with lapsed fans, and that getting the new generation of support in was where their priorities lay."

Shocking statement. A terrible, terrible mistake.
The potential of re-engagement with lapsed fans was there for all to see at the Burnley game on 4 January - 3 sides of the ground full. Idiots.

[StHelensRover]

4 minutes ago, MCMC1875 said:

From the WATR newsletter:

"Yasir Sufi also told us to forget about re-engagement with lapsed fans, and that getting the new generation of support in was where their priorities lay."

Shocking statement. A terrible, terrible mistake.
The potential of re-engagement with lapsed fans was there for all to see at the Burnley game on 4 January - 3 sides of the ground full. Idiots.

This was my thought as well.

What a stupid comment if that is what he said. There was about 23-24000 home fans on for the B*rnley match. There is no question some of them would love to come back more regularly if they thought there was some ounce of hope and pride in their club.

[lraC]

6 minutes ago, MCMC1875 said:

From the WATR newsletter:

"Yasir Sufi also told us to forget about re-engagement with lapsed fans, and that getting the new generation of support in was where their priorities lay."

Shocking statement. A terrible, terrible mistake.
The potential of re-engagement with lapsed fans was there for all to see at the Burnley game on 4 January - 3 sides of the ground full. Idiots.

There will be a new fan from the third generation of my family born in June and his brother my current Grandson, is a fan, due to me.

For all those who have walked away, these generations will be missed and lost forever. It is vital that those who love the club, but hate the regime, are targeted for a return, which is unlikely, until they sell. 

[arbitro]

23 minutes ago, MCMC1875 said:

From the WATR newsletter:

"Yasir Sufi also told us to forget about re-engagement with lapsed fans, and that getting the new generation of support in was where their priorities lay."

Shocking statement. A terrible, terrible mistake.
The potential of re-engagement with lapsed fans was there for all to see at the Burnley game on 4 January - 3 sides of the ground full. Idiots.

Just as they have put season ticket prices up for under 12's and under 18's  by as much as 77%.

I wish some of them would think before speaking.

[rigger]

18 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Just as they have put season ticket prices up for under 12's and under 18's  by as much as 77%.

I wish some of them would think before speaking.

I am glad they don't.

Give them enough rope....

Edited 23 hours ago by rigger

[Wheelton Blue]

17 minutes ago, arbitro said:

Just as they have put season ticket prices up for under 12's and under 18's  by as much as 77%.

I wish some of them would think before speaking.

It beggars belief.

These people supposedly run a multi-million turnover business.

[Wheelton Blue]

2 hours ago, Herbie6590 said:

Here’s Rory from the 4000 Holes podcast…👏👏👏

https://x.com/rorylarmer/status/1907376617216672054?s=46&t=cjTtFiLH6Hff-zlAsQbAUg

@glen9mullan As a suggestion, perhaps this could be turned into some 'marketing material' for the protest movement?

There's lots of to-the-point straplines in here.

[rigger]

47 minutes ago, MCMC1875 said:

From the WATR newsletter:

"Yasir Sufi also told us to forget about re-engagement with lapsed fans, and that getting the new generation of support in was where their priorities lay."

Shocking statement. A terrible, terrible mistake.
The potential of re-engagement with lapsed fans was there for all to see at the Burnley game on 4 January - 3 sides of the ground full. Idiots.

I hope it was pointed out to them that the so called new generation of supporters, would probably not be allowed to go, without an older supporter

[davulsukur]

50 minutes ago, MCMC1875 said:

From the WATR newsletter:

"Yasir Sufi also told us to forget about re-engagement with lapsed fans, and that getting the new generation of support in was where their priorities lay."

Shocking statement. A terrible, terrible mistake.
The potential of re-engagement with lapsed fans was there for all to see at the Burnley game on 4 January - 3 sides of the ground full. Idiots.

Read this earlier. Couldn't agree more, an absolutely shocking statement to make. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

In a previous meeting with the Rovers executive team, Suhail Pasha/Sheikh told us that: 
 
“The biggest mistake we (Venky’s) ever made was listening to Steve (Waggott) and Fraser (Read) and reducing season tickets by £30. What do you want next year, a reduction of £150?”

 

If you were in any doubt as to how much these Owners are out of touch with the fanbase then there you go.

Edited 22 hours ago by SIMON GARNERS 194

[StHelensRover]

7 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

In a previous meeting with the Rovers executive team, Suhail Pasha/Sheikh told us that: 
 
“The biggest mistake we (Venky’s) ever made was listening to Steve (Waggott) and Fraser (Read) and reducing season tickets by £30. What do you want next year, a reduction of £150?”

He deserves hounding out for that comment alone, nevermind the decade of disaster he has presided over

[rigger]

7 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

In a previous meeting with the Rovers executive team, Suhail Pasha/Sheikh told us that: 
 
“The biggest mistake we (Venky’s) ever made was listening to Steve (Waggott) and Fraser (Read) and reducing season tickets by £30. What do you want next year, a reduction of £150?”

What was the answer to this question. Mine would have been: If that is what it takes to make the tickets value for money, YES.

[StHelensRover]

Another metric of 15 years of failure could be that we're one of only 4 teams out of the 92 who have not played at Wembley since it re-opened in 2008. Some have played there against Spurs, many have made it to cup finals, semi-finals, play-offs etc... BUT NOT US! We're rubbing shoulders with Ipswich (who have had fantastic recent success), Accy and er.. Colchester.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/every-football-league-team-not-played-new-wembley

[Waggy76]

26 minutes ago, StHelensRover said:

Another metric of 15 years of failure could be that we're one of only 4 teams out of the 92 who have not played at Wembley since it re-opened in 2008. Some have played there against Spurs, many have made it to cup finals, semi-finals, play-offs etc... BUT NOT US! We're rubbing shoulders with Ipswich (who have had fantastic recent success), Accy and er.. Colchester.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/every-football-league-team-not-played-new-wembley

Preston? 

[Salgados Hair]

2015 L1 Play Off Final.

[MarkBRFC]

13 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Preston? 

Preston played there in the 2015 league one play off final.

[sharpysharps86]

1 hour ago, Wheelton Blue said:

@glen9mullan As a suggestion, perhaps this could be turned into some 'marketing material' for the protest movement?

There's lots of to-the-point straplines in here.

I agree. This is one of, if not THE most definitive things I've seen of someone pulling apart the last 15 years in such a direct way. I think its brilliant.

[TimmyJimmy]

Watched the interview, there's just so much you could write about it but a message board isn't the place to write essays so I'll try to precis what I think but I know it's going to be a dissertation, apologies:

- As strangers and away from football I'd happily have a drink and a game of arrows with all of them, they 'seem' decent guys.

- Witnessing their work over the years the kindest word I can find though is naive, a stronger one is incompetent.

- The admin cock-ups of the last few seasons is unforgivable and as owner I'd fire Waggott/Suhail Shaikh, although I shouldn't have to as they should have walked by now.

- That's easy for me to say though because they have to earn a wage, feed and shelter their families and with their track record other opportunities would be few and far between.

- How would a competent board deal with Venkys ownership, it's an impossible task, no one could succeed, it's a hiding to nothing, another reason to walk.

- Venkys run things as a star/hub business model, each business has a Venky family appointee with delegated authority to do what it takes to 'twine the handle', manage to pre-assigned budgets and they take update reports periodically to consider the various additional funding requests.

- Venkys have zero understanding of football, they treat it like any other business in the group.  IT IS NOT A BUSINESS VENKYS, ITS A FOOTBALL CLUB!

- Anyone who thinks success comes from running a development model and 'renting/leasing' players is deluded and shouldn't be anywhere near a football club and certainly not OURS (yes it's ours not yours).

- What I want from an owner is honest dealings, transparency, share our passion for the club, respect it's history and strive for the highest level.  Excite us and give us a reason to buy a season ticket

- Venkys don't and never will understand this and for this reason the Waggott/Suhail/Gestede axis will never get beyond painting happy time pictures and future promises of excitement that can never arrive.

The only fix is for Venkys to sell. Nothing else works, nothing else matters. As passionate as I am about the club even I couldn't run it properly with those people in charge.

[Displaced Rover]

1 hour ago, StHelensRover said:

Another metric of 15 years of failure could be that we're one of only 4 teams out of the 92 who have not played at Wembley since it re-opened in 2008. Some have played there against Spurs, many have made it to cup finals, semi-finals, play-offs etc... BUT NOT US! We're rubbing shoulders with Ipswich (who have had fantastic recent success), Accy and er.. Colchester.

https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/every-football-league-team-not-played-new-wembley

Don’t worry, only a few years until we’ll have a chance. 2028 League Two play offs anyone….?

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

"As strangers and away from football I'd happily have a drink and a game of arrows with all of them, they 'seem' decent guys"

 

To put it bluntly I wouldn't piss on any of them if they were on Fire.