John Eustace - our head coach

[SpaceBarSlam]

While things did become incredibly toxic in JDT's last six months, him obviously wanting out and passive aggressively slamming the club (justifiably) with that cheeky chappy smile, it wasn't all idyllic in his first season. 

The losses to Burnley away (the Mola call smacks of arrogance, especially in light of what Scott Wharton has said since JDT left) and Preston at home were massive lows and then the insistence on sticking with Pears even when the cracks started showing cost us a play off place imo. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 02/09/2024 at 11:19, SpaceBarSlam said:

While things did become incredibly toxic in JDT's last six months, him obviously wanting out and passive aggressively slamming the club (justifiably) with that cheeky chappy smile, it wasn't all idyllic in his first season. 

The losses to Burnley away (the Mola call smacks of arrogance, especially in light of what Scott Wharton has said since JDT left) and Preston at home were massive lows and then the insistence on sticking with Pears even when the cracks started showing cost us a play off place imo. 

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He blotted his copybook for me with that debacle at Burnley and he never really won me back over after that.

Edited September 2, 2024 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[RevidgeBlue]

  On 02/09/2024 at 08:19, Gamst said:

Not according to ACAS 

“You cannot reject an employee's resignation. However, a conversation might help you find out if there are problems that can be resolved. This might be enough for the employee to choose to stay”

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That's nonsense.

What's the point in ever having a contract then?

[LeftWinger]

  On 02/09/2024 at 09:14, roverandout said:

Remember the fiasco with henning berg. He was promised a 1 million pound severance package if he was sacked. Or something to that effect

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I thought we had to pay out the entirety of his contract due to Shaw removing a clause without Venky's knowledge?

[wilsdenrover]

  On 02/09/2024 at 11:35, LeftWinger said:

I thought we had to pay out the entirety of his contract due to Shaw removing a clause without Venky's knowledge?

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Have a read of this and see how many fuck ups by the club you can count 🤔🧐

https://employmentcasesupdate.co.uk/content/berg-v-blackburn-rovers-football-club-athletic-plc-2013-ewhc-1070-ch.fffeef86f1274dfc98e3398b29367772.htm#:~:text=In my judgment it is,Berg.

Edited September 2, 2024 by wilsdenrover

[roverandout]

Remember Singh wanting to appoint Billy mckinlay because he thought he was a club legend 

[lraC]

  On 02/09/2024 at 12:12, wilsdenrover said:

Have a read of this and see how many fuck ups by the club can you count 🤔🧐

https://employmentcasesupdate.co.uk/content/berg-v-blackburn-rovers-football-club-athletic-plc-2013-ewhc-1070-ch.fffeef86f1274dfc98e3398b29367772.htm#:~:text=In my judgment it is,Berg.

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Al least we learned our lessons and have appointed competent people ever since, who don't make such silly mistakes, accidentally on purpose.

Oh wait!!!

[Exiled in Toronto Mk2]

I’m beginning to think Eustace might be a reincarnation of Gordon Lee - pragmatic Midlander, had the best midfielder and top striker sold from under him, great organiser….promotion winner in his first season here??

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 02/09/2024 at 13:51, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said:

I’m beginning to think Eustace might be a reincarnation of Gordon Lee - pragmatic Midlander, had the best midfielder and top striker sold from under him, great organiser….promotion winner in his first season here??

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They appear quite similar in character. Not guys you’d want to get on the wrong side of.

[chaddyrovers]

  On 02/09/2024 at 11:19, SpaceBarSlam said:

While things did become incredibly toxic in JDT's last six months, him obviously wanting out and passive aggressively slamming the club (justifiably) with that cheeky chappy smile, it wasn't all idyllic in his first season. 

The losses to Burnley away (the Mola call smacks of arrogance, especially in light of what Scott Wharton has said since JDT left) and Preston at home were massive lows and then the insistence on sticking with Pears even when the cracks started showing cost us a play off place imo. 

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Given JDT offered his resignation when he learnt the budget and targets had changed. Its seems that GB, Pasha and Waggott rejected it and that's where the problems started from. From comments from Brittain, Wharton and Eustace, its seems that the problems behind the scenes, team spirit at rock bottom. 

On you point about Mola starting that game, Its seem to me that JDT tried to less of passion games for the Rovers fans within the team and wasn't Adam Wharton not allow on the coach for the Burnley away game. 

  On 02/09/2024 at 13:51, Exiled in Toronto Mk2 said:

I’m beginning to think Eustace might be a reincarnation of Gordon Lee - pragmatic Midlander, had the best midfielder and top striker sold from under him, great organiser….promotion winner in his first season here??

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He reminds me of more like Mark Hughes, I was born 10 years after his time here

[Mashed Potatoes]

  On 02/09/2024 at 11:25, RevidgeBlue said:

That's nonsense.

What's the point in ever having a contract then?

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The employee will still have to serve a period of notice. In the case of football contracts they will usually be for 3 or 4 years so one year in to a contract the employee will still have to serve the remainder of their contract period.

[roverandout]

  On 02/09/2024 at 14:25, chaddyrovers said:

Given JDT offered his resignation when he learnt the budget and targets had changed. Its seems that GB, Pasha and Waggott rejected it and that's where the problems started from. From comments from Brittain, Wharton and Eustace, its seems that the problems behind the scenes, team spirit at rock bottom. 

On you point about Mola starting that game, Its seem to me that JDT tried to less of passion games for the Rovers fans within the team and wasn't Adam Wharton not allow on the coach for the Burnley away game. 

He reminds me of more like Mark Hughes, I was born 10 years after his time here

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You were born in 2018?

Edited September 2, 2024 by roverandout

[Mike E]

  On 02/09/2024 at 15:30, roverandout said:

You were born in 2018?

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I think he meant 10 years after Gordon Lee (from the post he was quoting)

[Gamst]

  On 02/09/2024 at 11:25, RevidgeBlue said:

That's nonsense.

What's the point in ever having a contract then?

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It’s the law. You can’t force someone to come to work if they don’t want to and you can’t say no if they want to quit. It’s not a gulag. 

[Mashed Potatoes]

  On 02/09/2024 at 20:01, Gamst said:

It’s the law. You can’t force someone to come to work if they don’t want to and you can’t say no if they want to quit. It’s not a gulag. 

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But you can enforce a contractual commitment by them to pay up the part of their contract they haven't worked.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 02/09/2024 at 20:01, Gamst said:

It’s the law. You can’t force someone to come to work if they don’t want to and you can’t say no if they want to quit. It’s not a gulag. 

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Somebody in JDT’s position can walk away at any time, so you’re right. But there will be legal consequences afterwards.

[Forever Blue]

  On 02/09/2024 at 20:01, Gamst said:

It’s the law. You can’t force someone to come to work if they don’t want to and you can’t say no if they want to quit. It’s not a gulag. 

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It would have cost him money to quit which was why he requested to be released from his contract. The club refused in summer 23, then agreed 6 months later. 

[tomphil]

The fact Sweden were after him and he would be walking straight into another contract without compo if they just let him go probably complicated things further.

[roverandout]

  On 02/09/2024 at 19:10, Mike E said:

I think he meant 10 years after Gordon Lee (from the post he was quoting)

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I know lol 

[roverandout]

Talking of former managers. Tony Mowbray looks really ill.  I know he's had some health problems but I didn't realise it was this bad

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

  On 02/09/2024 at 21:53, roverandout said:

Talking of former managers. Tony Mowbray looks really ill.  I know he's had some health problems but I didn't realise it was this bad

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I wouldn’t have immediately recognised him going off that photo. It doesn’t look like he’ll be back in football now. Get well soon Tony.

[wilsdenrover]

  On 02/09/2024 at 21:53, roverandout said:

Talking of former managers. Tony Mowbray looks really ill.  I know he's had some health problems but I didn't realise it was this bad

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  On 03/09/2024 at 08:17, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

I wouldn’t have immediately recognised him going off that photo. It doesn’t look like he’ll be back in football now. Get well soon Tony.

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https://www.si.com/soccer/sunderland/i-m-feeling-good-former-sunderland-boss-tony-mowbray-gives-positive-health-update

[philipl]

This post is in whispering mode

We seem to have a Manager who has ambition and knows what he is doing and is ruthless and has the squad on board with him.

We seem to have squad depth and a good balance of youth and experience and several goal threats 

And in ACD and Cantwell we have two shots at Championship Player of the Year if they come good

First time we have had all three in combination since Souey.

We might even have a good January transfer window

OK gone for a lie down

[CambridgeRover]

  On 08/09/2024 at 04:27, philipl said:

This post is in whispering mode

We seem to have a Manager who has ambition and knows what he is doing and is ruthless and has the squad on board with him.

We seem to have squad depth and a good balance of youth and experience and several goal threats 

And in ACD and Cantwell we have two shots at Championship Player of the Year if they come good

First time we have had all three in combination since Souey.

We might even have a good January transfer window

OK gone for a lie down

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Is the Brighton lad really in for a shot of championship player of the year? Having never played a senior men’s game before?

[tomphil]

Also in whisper and fingers crossed mode but we might have landed on the championship version of Hughes here !

By that i mean he'll mix it up and sometimes we'll be ugly, boring, hard to beat but other times he'll go for it. Emphasis on getting it forward quicker whether by long ball or counter and finally a big man up top.

Won't always be pretty he'll manage games as he sees fit in terms of trying to not get beat or go for the three points, last season showed that.  Won't always be pretty but it's refreshing to be back to what seems like Championship football, not continental that won't work without great players and not water treading just keep everybody happy and plod on.

They must back him with every bit of loose change they possibly can like Williams did with Hughes albeit at a far different income level.

Mention to the backroom team and recruitment mob as well.