aletheia Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Mashed Potatoes said: At least he understands the challenge that the Championship presents and has demonstrated some degree of competence in dealing with it. Hopefully supporters will give him a fair crack of the whip - this season is now just about not being relegated and then we go again next season. Such tosh needs deconstruction. At least he understands the challenge that the Championship presents and has demonstrated some degree of competence in dealing with it. He was doing fine last season and the first half of this until the shit show that is SWAG and Rao’s messed up. Hopefully supporters will give him a fair crack of the whip Yes we will, it’s the dross above that needs calling out. ..and then we go again next season. Really? And on what grounds given the last 13 years do you base that? 6 Quote
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booth Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 1 minute ago, chaddyrovers said: That lighting's a bit dramatic. 3 Quote
Mashed Potatoes Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 5 minutes ago, aletheia said: Such tosh needs deconstruction. At least he understands the challenge that the Championship presents and has demonstrated some degree of competence in dealing with it. He was doing fine last season and the first half of this until the shit show that is SWAG and Rao’s messed up. Hopefully supporters will give him a fair crack of the whip Yes we will, it’s the dross above that needs calling out. ..and then we go again next season. Really? And on what grounds given the last 13 years do you base that? I don't understand your post. My comments were about Eustace not JDT. Quote
Blue blood Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 23 minutes ago, matt83 said: I dare say he’s one of the more palatable options when our criteria is unemployed, won't want to bring in his own staff and happy to work for cranks at a circus of a club. I wish him all the luck in the world Christ knows he’ll need it. The above is why I'm not that excited by the appointment. He fits their criteria, as matt83 succinctly summarises. But it is really not an adequate criteria to appoint any manager whatsoever. His record isn't amazing. He's not that experienced. He's arguably done ok at a couple of places, but couldn't have been classed as doing well anywhere. To be honest he reminds me of the Berg appointment, underwhelming, but relief that it's someone who has actually managed and not been a car crash. I also can't see his defensive style pleasing the higher ups. Not that I think the higher ups have any valid opinions, but given how fractious things are between head coach and the higher echelons I doubt one extra clash is going to help matters. Still we might get new manager's bounce to keep us up, but that's about it. Hoping I'll be proved wrong - would love it. But I fear that it's going to continue the downward spiral. 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 A 8 minutes ago, arbitro said: I hope the ball runs kindly for him and the players and I will be supporting him. Hopefully he comes up with a way of playing that wins matches and adds a bit of backbone to the players. But for me Waggott and his cohorts are done. Agreed. In the long term this looks tantamount to rearranging a couple of deckchairs on the Titanic given that Venky's still have their financial issues and Waggott and Broughton appear to have emerged from the latest debacle unscathed. In the short term however a different voice and possibly a more pragmatic approach at times, hopefully he can provoke a reaction out of the players and get us the points we need to avoid the drop this season. A very warm welcome to the Club and the best of luck John. 1 Quote
Ewood Ace Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 (edited) 36 minutes ago, jim mk2 said: A warm welcome and best of luck to John Eustace. If he can keep us up this season and the club hopefully have a reset in the summer the future might be a bit brighter. If you mean by reset, cash in on a few more players and replace them with a few free transfers and kids on loan. Edited February 9, 2024 by Ewood Ace 1 Quote
toogs Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 1 hour ago, Spankus Munky said: Yet Lowe & Benson remain in position after yet another change in Manager/Coach... Let him bring his own staff I might be able to get behind him, the fact he only gets an assistant like all his previous incumbents its just more of the same shit different day. Watching Lowe in matchday warmups is cringeworthy to me. He looks like an over promoted school PE teacher. Any decent manager (Head coach!) will spot this and assign the appropriate tasks to him that suit his skill level (or lack of). However, the Head Coach should be allowed to bring in the best person to implement his vision. Unfortunately, if Eustace is any good, he will quickly realise he is going to have to do it himself. 3 Quote
tomphil Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 They've done well to get someone to sign a 2.5 year contract considering all the well known issues i'll be amazed if there isn't a 6 month clause in it. 5 Quote
roverandout Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 (edited) Much better appointment than I expected at least. He's got a decent pedigree but we could appoint pep and It wouldn't make a different under these baxtards Edited February 9, 2024 by roverandout 2 Quote
Ossydave Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 Happy and also surprised they've managed to sort a new manager so quickly, although maybe it's been going on for a while and they persuaded JDT to babysit till it was sealed? Or he found out they'd lined his replacement up and lost his shit.... Either way I'm happy with the appointment, we need a new manager bounce and we need to remember how to defend first and foremost. 1 Quote
Popular Post Oldgregg86 Posted February 9, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 9, 2024 (edited) Venky’s still in charge, in India, with the same restrictions and court cases suhail, waggot, broughton , Sylvester stil in the boardroom lowe and benson still taking training Captain still at Ipswich best player still at palace telalovic and Leonard leading the line for our relegation battle but yeah am sure John eustace and a pal of his are going to bring in a new era. This time next year I will be amazed if we arnt in the same position if not worse , that’s if he’s still here Edited February 9, 2024 by Oldgregg86 15 Quote
Bethnal Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 4 minutes ago, Blue blood said: The above is why I'm not that excited by the appointment. He fits their criteria, as matt83 succinctly summarises. But it is really not an adequate criteria to appoint any manager whatsoever. His record isn't amazing. He's not that experienced. He's arguably done ok at a couple of places, but couldn't have been classed as doing well anywhere. To be honest he reminds me of the Berg appointment, underwhelming, but relief that it's someone who has actually managed and not been a car crash. I also can't see his defensive style pleasing the higher ups. Not that I think the higher ups have any valid opinions, but given how fractious things are between head coach and the higher echelons I doubt one extra clash is going to help matters. Still we might get new manager's bounce to keep us up, but that's about it. Hoping I'll be proved wrong - would love it. But I fear that it's going to continue the downward spiral. Tend to agree here. He probably is worthy of the opportunity, but it’s an opportunity to him because of the situation we find ourselves in. Very arguable that he was treated unfairly at Birmingham, another crack at the Championship seems “fair,” if you like. We could do - and previously have done - a lot worse, but it’s not an appointment that sparks the imagination. His interview is pragmatic and we probably need that in the short term. Ours seems a squad of good characters that lack a bit of fight. The new, “experienced” additions might improve that and hopefully this manager is able to instil some. Full support from me and obvious intrigue around what he brings to the club, who he evaluates as his first choice players and how it plays out, but I’m nervous about it. 1 Quote
bazza Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 If he's sitting alongside Swaggot tomorrow I hope he doesn't come dashing down to the bench to take over half way through the game. The last man to do that was Brian Kidd and we all know how that ended. 4 Quote
bazza Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 Actually, I'm quietly confident that he will make us into a stronger, more defensive and well-drilled team than we have been of late. 3 Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 (edited) Sam allardyce is the master of avoiding relegation and getting the most out of his squads when needed. He’s got decades of experience and a contact list as long as Venky’s court documents. He has also worked with the Venky’s before and knows the club. How in the situation we are in has he not been giving the job even til summer. He sorts out the main problem we have, being difficult to beat guaranteed survival Edited February 9, 2024 by Oldgregg86 2 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 3 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said: Venky’s still in charge, in India, with the same restrictions and court cases suhail, waggot, broughton , Sylvester stil in the boardroom lowe and benson still taking training Captain still at Ipswich best player still at palace telalovic and Leonard leading the line for our relegation battle but yeah am sure John eustace and a pal of his are going to bring in a new era. This time next year I will be amazed if we arnt in the same position if not worse , that’s if he’s still here Impossible imo to disagree, but you have to allow yourself that little bit of optimism that the change will bring about an improvement in the short term. There's nothing else left to cling on to. 3 Quote
Roverthechimp Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 Any clues as to if it has been GB or someone else that has recruited Eustace? Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 1 minute ago, Oldgregg86 said: Sam allardyce is the master of avoiding relegation and getting the most out of his squads when needed. He’s got decades of experience and a contact list as long as Venky’s court documents. He has also worked with the Venky’s before and knows the club. How in the situation we are in has he not been giving the job even til summer. guaranteed survival ££££ which we haven't got. Quote
Oldgregg86 Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said: ££££ which we haven't got. I was supposed to add we probably couldn’t afford him but the money we lose if we do go down am sure paying him on a 16 week contract is worth it . We’ve just brought in 22 million 1 Quote
tomphil Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 11 minutes ago, bazza said: If he's sitting alongside Swaggot tomorrow I hope he doesn't come dashing down to the bench to take over half way through the game. The last man to do that was Brian Kidd and we all know how that ended. There were plenty rubber dingy's knocking about in that team v QPR that's for sure. 1 Quote
islander200 Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 11 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said: Any clues as to if it has been GB or someone else that has recruited Eustace? No quotes from Gregg on the official website welcoming him suggests to me it was somebody else. I'm sure we had plenty of Greg quote's when JDT was announced 1 Quote
Roverthechimp Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 8 minutes ago, islander200 said: No quotes from Gregg on the official website welcoming him suggests to me it was somebody else. I'm sure we had plenty of Greg quote's when JDT was announced Sort of how I remember it and makes me a little concerned that GB is either on his way or been told to fall in line with Waggott regaining total control Quote
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 Good luck to the new man but the Cancer at the Club still remains in Venkys Ownership. We cannot move forward while they have their grubby Hands around the Neck of our Club. The Circus rolls on... 6 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted February 9, 2024 Posted February 9, 2024 17 minutes ago, Oldgregg86 said: I was supposed to add we probably couldn’t afford him but the money we lose if we do go down am sure paying him on a 16 week contract is worth it . We’ve just brought in 22 million Allegedly coming in initially in 3 lots of £6m and I bet they don't bother going back to Court in March and use the AW money in lieu. That only keeps the lights on until sometime in June by my reckoning. Not to excuse the situation or defend them in any way. 3 Quote
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