LeftWinger Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 3 hours ago, philipl said: Eustace is a Stoke City squad player after the Champions League winner. Would you rather have Alex Ferguson or Steven Gerrard as a manager? 5 Quote
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Tugay-is-God Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 10 hours ago, rigger said: At least he called us Rovers. Always seemed like JDT was very careful to only call us Rovers 2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 10 hours ago, rigger said: At least he called us Rovers. I didn’t hear that, mainly it was Blackburn. 1 Quote
bb1rover Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 I think JDT lost the dressing room, you could clearly see the tippy tappy football around our own box was very uncomfortable for our players, I think over time it sucked the confidence out of them, especially the defenders. Over time it must have frustrated them. Constantly saying we need players probably didn't help them either. I also think making everyone play most weeks whether they made the first team or not, to keep them sharp, may have backfired and added somewhat to our injuries. Maybe the relief of a new manager will breathe confidence and some hope in the guys. 1 Quote
Popular Post Mattyblue Posted February 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 10, 2024 19 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: I didn’t hear that, mainly it was Blackburn. Who JDT? Called us ‘Rovers’ far more than any other manager we’ve had, far more than plenty of fans too. 10 Quote
Popular Post arbitro Posted February 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 10, 2024 3 minutes ago, bb1rover said: I think JDT lost the dressing room, you could clearly see the tippy tappy football around our own box was very uncomfortable for our players, I think over time it sucked the confidence out of them, especially the defenders. Over time it must have frustrated them. Constantly saying we need players probably didn't help them either. I also think making everyone play most weeks whether they made the first team or not, to keep them sharp, may have backfired and added somewhat to our injuries. Maybe the relief of a new manager will breathe confidence and some hope in the guys. I really dislike the 'lost the dressing room' description. By implication the players weren't playing for the manager ergo weren't playing for the club in other words stealing a living. It's a description that's often banded about in football and if there is any truth in it then it says more about the players than any manager. 10 Quote
Mattyblue Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, arbitro said: I really dislike the 'lost the dressing room' description. By implication the players weren't playing for the manager ergo weren't playing for the club in other words stealing a living. It's a description that's often banded about in football and if there is any truth in it then it says more about the players than any manager. I think people sometimes give footballers too much credit. It’s a job and a load of them aren’t arsed enough for it to lead to managers ‘losing’ dressing rooms. What brought it home to me was I heard a pundit ex-pro being asked about a player angling for a big move in public, losing focus etc and if that would make him unpopular in the dressing room, seen as not committed and he flatly said ‘no, it’s a short career, his teammates will think “fair play” ‘ Edited February 10, 2024 by Mattyblue 2 Quote
Laurence Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 3 hours ago, philipl said: Eustace is a Stoke City squad player after the Champions League winner True, but Mourhino, Wenger, Hodgson, Howard Kendall, Daivid Moyes........ Quote
Mattyblue Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 (edited) Kendall was a quality player, title winner. Part of Everton’s ‘Holy Trinity’ to this day. Edited February 10, 2024 by Mattyblue 1 Quote
danger19_80 Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, Laurence said: True, but Mourhino, Wenger, Hodgson, Howard Kendall, Daivid Moyes........ Klopp, Mourinho...irrelevant comparison 1 Quote
arbitro Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 4 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: I think people sometimes give footballers too much credit. It’s a job and a load of them aren’t arsed enough for it to lead to managers ‘losing’ dressing rooms. What brought it home to me was I heard a pundit ex-pro being asked about a player angling for a big move in public, losing focus etc and if that would make him unpopular in the dressing room, seen as not committed and he flatly said ‘no, it’s a short career, his teammates will think “fair play” ‘ There is absolutely a code of 'Omerta' in professional football in which there is rarely criticism in public of fellow professionals and sometimes managers. Most internal squabbles or training ground spats are kept in-house. I do believe though that any outspoken alpha-males in the changing room can wield far too much influence but then I guess that is much the same in most working environments. Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 27 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: Who JDT? Called us ‘Rovers’ far more than any other manager we’ve had, far more than plenty of fans too. No, the new guy in last nights interview. 1 Quote
Mattyblue Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 Yeah the ‘Rovers’ days will be over. Just nice little touches from JDT, charisma in spades. 5 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 33 minutes ago, bb1rover said: I think JDT lost the dressing room, you could clearly see the tippy tappy football around our own box was very uncomfortable for our players, I think over time it sucked the confidence out of them, especially the defenders. Over time it must have frustrated them. Constantly saying we need players probably didn't help them either. I also think making everyone play most weeks whether they made the first team or not, to keep them sharp, may have backfired and added somewhat to our injuries. Maybe the relief of a new manager will breathe confidence and some hope in the guys. It’s more the players who were getting picked to start every week start thinking “ new guy, I better pull my socks up just in case “ and the players who weren’t starting every week start thinking “ new guy, If I impress him I might get a starting place or a place on the bench “. 1 Quote
OldEwoodBlue Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 Meaningless distraction. Be lucky if he even makes it to Xmas. The same shit will befall him as those who came before. Led by Suhail, fronted by Steve, orchestrated by the owners. Our fate is relegation, starvation (of funds), degradation and finally administration. That is the best outcome. The worst ?... to continue in this Venky induced coma, whilst the faithful have rebooted ready to rewrite history for the umpteenth time. 6 Quote
Trinidad Rover Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 (edited) Eustace doesn’t stand a chance of being successful. 1. Because the root of all the problems still exist. 2. The vast majority of fans are fuming/disappointed/apathetic after the manner in which JDT left. JDT left on the side of the fans, Eustace has serious work to do to get that support. 3. He has accepted the job working for and under the charlatans running the club. This smacks of a Waggott appointment. A journeyman with little to no gravitas or heritage. Compare his and JDTs pedigree. It is no surprise he took the job, anyone in his situation would be lucky to manage Rovers. My issue isn’t with him, I wish him the best in very difficult circumstances. My main feeling is now apathy. A mediocre, cheap and boring appointment. Until the board and the owners go we are in purgatory. Miserable. Edited February 10, 2024 by Trinidad Rover 8 Quote
Mattyblue Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, Trinidad Rover said: Eustace doesn’t stand a chance of being successful. 1. Because the root of all the problems still exist. 2. The vast majority of fans are fuming/disappointed/apathetic after the manner in which JDT left. JDT left on the side of the fans, Eustace has serious work to do to get that support. 3. He has accepted the job working for and under the charlatans running the club. This smacks of a Waggott appointment. A journeyman with little to no gravitas or heritage. Compare his and JDTs pedigree. It is no surprise he took the job, anyone in his situs to on would be lucky to manage Rovers. My issue isn’t with him, I wish him the best in very difficult circumstances. My main feeling is now apathy. A mediocre, cheap and boring appointment. Until the board and the owners go we are in purgatory. Miserable. 1 and 3, agree. 2, he wins a few games and it will be ‘JDT who?’ Thats football fans. 5 Quote
AllRoverAsia Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 42 minutes ago, arbitro said: I really dislike the 'lost the dressing room' description. By implication the players weren't playing for the manager ergo weren't playing for the club in other words stealing a living. It's a description that's often banded about in football and if there is any truth in it then it says more about the players than any manager. I'm seeing it on here and being supported by his offer to leave last summer but omitting that following that he stayed and moved his family over. It's just one example of history bring rewritten to suit agenda. More will come. Same will happen with GB. He's not spoken publically since the window closed, sent a personal message to JDT and looks like he had nothing to do with getting Eustace recruited. He has, along with Swag, Suhail and IS, messed up another window and I think his days are numbered and he's alone in the corner until they find his replacement. Meanwhile Stalin Swag continues his purge. 1 Quote
J*B Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 2 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said: I'm seeing it on here and being supported by his offer to leave last summer but omitting that following that he stayed and moved his family over. It's just one example of history bring rewritten to suit agenda. More will come. Same will happen with GB. He's not spoken publically since the window closed, sent a personal message to JDT and looks like he had nothing to do with getting Eustace recruited. He has, along with Swag, Suhail and IS, messed up another window and I think his days are numbered and he's alone in the corner until they find his replacement. Meanwhile Stalin Swag continues his purge. I don’t see a world where GB is still involved by Birmingham at home. Too many signs that he’s no longer involved. Not pictured with Eustace No words on Eustace on the Rovers website No after transfer window review Gushing JDT post on LinkedIn Limited Eustace post on LinkedIn with no picture 6 Quote
Mattyblue Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 Yep you’d imagine GB will slip out the back door shortly to ‘take up an exciting in opportunity in Belgium’ or whatever. 1 Quote
ScorpioRover Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 Good luck John Eusace let's hope we can now go on a winning streak Quote
wilsdenrover Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 https://www.rovers.co.uk/news/2024/february/10/in-profile--matt-gardiner/ Our new assistant used to be a specialist set piece coach. 1 Quote
Popular Post Sutton blue Posted February 10, 2024 Popular Post Posted February 10, 2024 I'm a Birmingham fan but please be gentle! Any new appointment is a gamble especially with the shit owners you have. Eustace was in a similar situation at our club and this seemed to work in his favour. He created a type of siege mentality us against the world amongst the players and the fans. The players would run through brick walls for him and we fans appreciated their hard work and attitude. And his reputation as a defensive minder manager is a bit unfair, because we played some decent football at times. What he is good at is getting a team well organised and first and foremost making them hard to score against. Get the defending right and build on that to start playing good football. We were gutted when he was sacked. In his previous season he had stabilised a team which had been a shambles and kept us up with games to spare, and this season, following some low budget summer signings we were in 6th place after 10 games. I really hope he does well with you (after Tuesday obviously) and I think you could have done far worse. I wish he was still our manager to be honest, especially as we have much better owners now. 17 Quote
Backroom DE. Posted February 10, 2024 Backroom Posted February 10, 2024 1 hour ago, arbitro said: I really dislike the 'lost the dressing room' description. By implication the players weren't playing for the manager ergo weren't playing for the club in other words stealing a living. It's a description that's often banded about in football and if there is any truth in it then it says more about the players than any manager. Yeah, I think there's a difference between losing the dressing room (which I think is pretty rare and usually ends with the manager leaving really soon afterwards) and the players losing confidence in the manager's style of play. It doesn't mean he's lost the dressing room in the sense they don't want to play for him, just that they start losing faith in the methods which has a direct impact on confidence and performance during matches. 4 Quote
bigbrandjohn Posted February 10, 2024 Posted February 10, 2024 8 minutes ago, Sutton blue said: I'm a Birmingham fan but please be gentle! Any new appointment is a gamble especially with the shit owners you have. Eustace was in a similar situation at our club and this seemed to work in his favour. He created a type of siege mentality us against the world amongst the players and the fans. The players would run through brick walls for him and we fans appreciated their hard work and attitude. And his reputation as a defensive minder manager is a bit unfair, because we played some decent football at times. What he is good at is getting a team well organised and first and foremost making them hard to score against. Get the defending right and build on that to start playing good football. We were gutted when he was sacked. In his previous season he had stabilised a team which had been a shambles and kept us up with games to spare, and this season, following some low budget summer signings we were in 6th place after 10 games. I really hope he does well with you (after Tuesday obviously) and I think you could have done far worse. I wish he was still our manager to be honest, especially as we have much better owners now. Welcome to the Forum. Thanks for sharing. Hopefully he will deliver on your comments. We certainly need tightening our defence. 2 Quote
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