John Eustace - our head coach

[M_B]

3 hours ago, ABBEY said:

Car crash that was 7 points clear and 13 clear of weds. No home wins . Not tried to win a game ...aye it ain't bad

Bloody ell, 7 points clear of relegation, I didn't actually realise how bad the decline was. 

That's cliff edge stuff. 

[aletheia]

1 hour ago, M_B said:

Bloody ell, 7 points clear of relegation, I didn't actually realise how bad the decline was. 

That's cliff edge stuff. 

Yawn.

[lraC]

2 hours ago, M_B said:

Bloody ell, 7 points clear of relegation, I didn't actually realise how bad the decline was. 

That's cliff edge stuff. 

I wish we were 7 points clear now. 

[onlyonejackwalker]

It was obvious somethimg had to change and JDT had to go. Everyone was scoring three or four against us.

With a new manager, i didn't suddenly think we would charge for the play offs and start winning every week. 

It was sensible to try and solidify defensively. Most would have done the same.

We all know we are limited down the spine of the team. Our keeper, centre halves, centre midfielders and centre forward are as crap as ive ever known. Gennoe, Faz, Barker and Garner would walk into this team. Or Moran, Cowans and Speedie. I don't rate most of our team at all. They can all sod off for me.

So what chance did Eustace really have to shine and do well? Probably a somewhat limited one.

However and having said all that, I really don't like the bloke at all. I  tried and gave him a chance. But fawning and smug we have seen it all before. He should be putting cones out. He has not done anything any average manager from any division could, or would have done. 

In the abscence of more talent, most of us on here would have identified the best 14, dumped Gallagher up top scoring or not, employed three big centre halves, got men behind the ball and relied on Sammie to nick the odd goal. Then hoped for the best. And that's what he has done. Nothing more, nothing less.

These owners have lumbered us with some of the worst players and managers in my lifetime. Eustace is yet another one. I'm one of the few who give Eustace the Stoke game. I'll also give him the relegation if we go down. 

Not one of us would miss him if he was sacked. Go and get Hughes, Moyes or Allardyce. Someone in charge with some proven history, track record, strength and spirit. Go and find Curbishley see where he's up to. Go and get that big bully Pearson. Get a bloke in charge to deal with all our snowflakes. Grit, belief and determination will be needed if we go down, but can also get you a long way in this division. Look at Ipswich this year and Sheff United last year.

Just stop employing these bumbling, illiterate, pathetic under-performing idiots. I know, I know, I'm talking to myself.

 

Edited May 3 by onlyonejackwalker

[Upside Down]

7 hours ago, M_B said:

5 defeats in 17 isn't at all bad though,considering the car crash he took over. 

Complete fucking bollocks. 

The team was 7 points from the bottom three. 

We should have been looking to push on and sneak into the playoffs. Instead all we've done is go backwards. 

If you're trying to argue his record is anything other than complete dog shit then you need to give the psychedelic drugs a break for a while. 

The guy is a walking disaster and is on par with Coyle. 

I'd cut him some slack for the squad being absolutely awful but he hasn't even tried to win a game yet. 

Tightened things up at the back you say? We got smashed by Sheffield Wednesday and Bristol City. The games against the likes of Plymouth, Millwall and Big Club were all points dropped. I would expect a points return of at least 12 from those five games. 

The guy is as thick as two short planks, he's tactically inept and has a loser mentality.  At any normal club he'd have been binned off by now for being so shit. Instead he'll be here for another two years as he fulfills the owners desires and drags us down to new depths.

Useless. 

[M_B]

6 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Complete fucking bollocks. 

The team was 7 points from the bottom three. 

We should have been looking to push on and sneak into the playoffs. Instead all we've done is go backwards. 

If you're trying to argue his record is anything other than complete dog shit then you need to give the psychedelic drugs a break for a while. 

The guy is a walking disaster and is on par with Coyle. 

I'd cut him some slack for the squad being absolutely awful but he hasn't even tried to win a game yet. 

Tightened things up at the back you say? We got smashed by Sheffield Wednesday and Bristol City. The games against the likes of Plymouth, Millwall and Big Club were all points dropped. I would expect a points return of at least 12 from those five games. 

The guy is as thick as two short planks, he's tactically inept and has a loser mentality.  At any normal club he'd have been binned off by now for being so shit. Instead he'll be here for another two years as he fulfills the owners desires and drags us down to new depths.

Useless. 

In Eustace's 16 games we've had 5 clean sheets, in the previous 28 we had 4.

We've also had 6 games where we've let 1 in, so in 11 of his 16 games in charge, we've let 1 or less in. 

And that is with an "awful" squad, 

He's obviously come in and been a risk averse manager, it obviously won't do from the beginning of a season,but to get a tune defensively out of this lot, under these circumstances , I think shows some tactical know how. 

[Mattyblue]

‘Only won x’, ‘only lost x’, ‘6 games conceding x’’.

Only one stat matters, points - and he hasn’t got them, not even averaged a point a game.

Edited May 3 by Mattyblue

[roversfan99]

In the 15 league games weve failed to score in 7 and only scored 1 in a further 6 of those. And I havent seen any plan in terms of seeing how we are trying to attack, I cant see one, plus we havent improved at all on attacking set pieces.

All this being said, wins, losses, goals for, goals against. 14 points from 15 games is all you need to know. Shite.

[Upside Down]

31 minutes ago, M_B said:

In Eustace's 16 games we've had 5 clean sheets, in the previous 28 we had 4.

We've also had 6 games where we've let 1 in, so in 11 of his 16 games in charge, we've let 1 or less in. 

And that is with an "awful" squad, 

He's obviously come in and been a risk averse manager, it obviously won't do from the beginning of a season,but to get a tune defensively out of this lot, under these circumstances , I think shows some tactical know how. 

Oh well, I hope you enjoy the League One campaign then.

With useless in charge it's a nailed on certainty that we'll be there sooner or later.

 

14 points from 15 games. Dog shit.

[wilsdenrover]

35 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

In the 15 league games weve failed to score in 7 and only scored 1 in a further 6 of those. And I havent seen any plan in terms of seeing how we are trying to attack, I cant see one, plus we havent improved at all on attacking set pieces.

All this being said, wins, losses, goals for, goals against. 14 points from 15 games is all you need to know. Shite.

In the last two months there’s only been one game where someone other than Sammie scored.

[RTM08]

 

1 hour ago, M_B said:

In Eustace's 16 games we've had 5 clean sheets, in the previous 28 we had 4.

We've also had 6 games where we've let 1 in, so in 11 of his 16 games in charge, we've let 1 or less in. 

And that is with an "awful" squad, 

He's obviously come in and been a risk averse manager, it obviously won't do from the beginning of a season, but to get a tune defensively out of this lot, under these circumstances , I think shows some tactical know how. 

It's all well and good setting up to not concede, but that leads to us drawing as a best case scenario, and would also see us relegated over a season even if by some miracle we didn't lose any. Wins are just worth more, ultimately 1 win and 2 defeats is worth more than 2 draws and a defeat, which is more along the lines of what what Eustace has us at currently. You can shore things up and still effectively attack, just look at how the likes of Big Sam and Warnock have turned teams around in the past. 

His tactical "know how" has been sit everyone behind the ball and hope for a miracle. I seem to recall him coming in as an alleged set piece specialist as well and we're still awful there too.

[RTM08]

1 hour ago, wilsdenrover said:

In the last two months there’s only been one game where someone other than Sammie scored.

Broughton and Waggott to replace Sammie with Tyjon next season and we'll be fighting for that Rotherham record. 

[Ewood Ace]

2 hours ago, M_B said:

In Eustace's 16 games we've had 5 clean sheets, in the previous 28 we had 4.

We've also had 6 games where we've let 1 in, so in 11 of his 16 games in charge, we've let 1 or less in. 

On the flip side in his 16 games we have score just 14 goals and 5 of them came in one game. We have scored more than one goal in just two games. We have also failed to score in 7 games.

Not to mention a dreadful points return of 14 points fr9m 15 league games and a failure to win a single home game.

Edited May 3 by Ewood Ace

[Upside Down]

13 minutes ago, Ewood Ace said:

On the flip side in his 16 games we have score just 14 goals and 5 of them came in one game. We have scored more than one goal in just two games. We have also failed to score in 7 games.

Not to mention a dreadful points return of 14 points fr9m 15 league games and a failure to win a single home game.

It's absolutely shocking how bad it is.

At least with JDT you had the feeling that if we got a goal early on in the game we could go on to win.

With useless we haven't even attempted to score. There is no plan of attack and absolutely no intention of winning the game.

This year sums venkys up to a tee. The manager wants out as the club have done a u turn on their initial lies that brought him to the club. They refuse to let him leave and force him to stay in place then completely undermine him at every opportunity. He finally is let go after publicly calling them out and is replaced with a total novice that doesn't even make any attempt to get us out of the relegation battle. If anything he's dragged us deeper into it.

They have done as much as they can this year to deliberately relegate the club. Only by the grace of there being shitter teams below us will we survive. Next year we will be relegated. Deliberately. Again.

The only people we have to thank for survival this year are Sammie Szmodics and Jon Dahl Tomasson.

[chaddyrovers]

13 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

It isn't "opinion" if Eustace was in charge against Stoke or not.

Facts tell us that he wasn't, he started work the following Monday morning.

 

I have explained my opinion and reasons. Got nothing more to add to that. 

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Not a clue.

Surprised by that

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I dont think he is the man to take us forward. His results havent been good enough

Fair enough

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

and I think deep down even you know that hence your desperation to tag on the Stoke win to make his points per game seem less shit.

I ain't desperate at all. I have posted my reasons why the Stoke game win is him. Nothing more to add

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Even beyond that, do I see green shoots of going in the right direction? No. I have seen no gradual improvement in line with more time on the training ground. We have spurned numerous attempts for him to get even one home win considering some favourable fixtures. I have seen absolutely no patterns of play in terms of attacking, we just lump it aimlessly forward so often. Dont mind the football being more pragmatic if its effective, but its just boring and ineffective, not a good combination.

A more pragmatic means less open, more defensively so it is going to boring(if that's your opinion)

I think we witness the best 4 games with of them being after international break when we got more time on the training ground. Plus the Boro away game 

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

We had real issues with attacking set pieces under Tomasson, I read that he could improve us there, no improvement whatsoever.

Agreed

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

I acknowledge the difficulties in taking the Rovers job, but I don't think hes done well enough even taking that into account.

What do you think would be well enough? How many points? Goals scored? Clean sheets? Goal conceded? 

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

But he will be here, and would be even if we went down. 2 years on his deal, Venkys wont pay him up.

I know youll say we wont go down, and I dont think so either, other results will keep us up. But for you would his job be safe even if we went down?

Yes

13 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Im still to see specifically what you have seen to warrant continuing with him.

See below. He sums it well. Plus the other parts I've mentioned in recent weeks about Eustace not trusting or faith in the squad players outside 14 or 15 players. 

5 hours ago, M_B said:

In Eustace's 16 games we've had 5 clean sheets, in the previous 28 we had 4.

We've also had 6 games where we've let 1 in, so in 11 of his 16 games in charge, we've let 1 or less in. 

And that is with an "awful" squad, 

He's obviously come in and been a risk averse manager, it obviously won't do from the beginning of a season,but to get a tune defensively out of this lot, under these circumstances , I think shows some tactical know how. 

I agree with yours post. We stopped goals going in and keep some clean sheets which is what fans wanted. A more pragmatic approach. 

[Paul Mani]

This is no more Eustace’s fault than it is Ten Hag’s fault at United. Both clubs are rotten.

Rovers are in a process of ‘managed decline’. The budget gets cut every year, and it shows…in the stadium, around the ground and on the pitch. I saw a table this week showing that only Rotherham had a smaller wage budget than us this season.

Eustace has a good name within football. He’s well regarded by some of the old pros I know and you will struggle to find a fan of Birmingham or Kidderminster who have a bad word to say about him.

I’m not advocating him and the jury is still out for me but, Blackburn Rovers make it hard for any manager on the planet to succeed. Look at the January window for example. We had won one game since November and they loan out the club captain, sell the most prestigious talent we’ve had in recent history and then buy no one and ‘forget’ to press send on the American Striker we wanted to sign. Add this to last Summers clusterfuck, the O’brien fuck up the January before then and the Rothwell for Dembele and Jed Wallace the January before that, and you’d be forgiven for thinking someone at the club actually wants us to go down. They haven’t made it easy for any manager…that’s for sure.

Im relaxed-ish about today. Because honestly, the curve we’re on means even if we survive, it’s only a matter of time before we go down.

Hope change is around the corner. 

Edited May 4 by Paul Mani

[Upside Down]

2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

This is no more Eustace’s fault than it is Ten Hag’s fault at United. Both clubs are rotten.

Rovers are in a process of ‘managed decline’. The budget gets cut every year, and it shows…in the stadium, around the ground and on the pitch. I saw a table this week showing that only Rotherham had a smaller wage budget than us this season.

Eustace has a good name within football. He’s well regarded by some of the old pros I know and you will struggle to find a fan of Birmingham or Kidderminster who have a bad word to say about him.

I’m not advocating him and the jury is still out for me but, Blackburn Rovers make it hard for any manager on the planet to succeed. Look at the January window for example. We had won one game since November and they loan out the club captain, sell the most prestigious talent we’ve had in recent history and then buy no one and ‘forget’ to press send on the American Striker we wanted to sign. Add this to last Summers clusterfuck, the O’brien fuck up the January before then and the Rothwell for Dembele and Jed Wallace the January before that, and you’d be forgiven for thinking someone at the club actually wants us to go down. They haven’t made it easy for any manager…that’s for sure.

Im relaxed-ish about today. Because honestly, the curve we’re on means even if we survive, it’s only a matter of time before we go down.

Hope change is around the corner. 

Yep 100% nobody will ever succeed with venkys.

As we saw last January, if we are on track to get promoted they will deliberately sabotage it in any way they can.

For me though, even under those circumstances, useless has been absolutely shit. He hasn't even attempted to win a game yet. He's had half a season and as we saw in the first half of the season, we can beat teams and we did.

Playing for draws against the likes of Plymouth and Millwall is totally unacceptable.

Once again I expected very very little from Rovers and they still failed to deliver.

Until the club is rid of venkys we will just continue our decent down the leagues into oblivion. I'm not in any way nervous or even bothered about the game today. If we don't get relegated this year then we'll go down next. Venkys have once again deliberately made that happen.

Edited May 4 by Upside Down

[roverandout]

5 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I have explained my opinion and reasons. Got nothing more to add to that. 

Surprised by that

Fair enough

I ain't desperate at all. I have posted my reasons why the Stoke game win is him. Nothing more to add

A more pragmatic means less open, more defensively so it is going to boring(if that's your opinion)

I think we witness the best 4 games with of them being after international break when we got more time on the training ground. Plus the Boro away game 

Agreed

What do you think would be well enough? How many points? Goals scored? Clean sheets? Goal conceded? 

Yes

See below. He sums it well. Plus the other parts I've mentioned in recent weeks about Eustace not trusting or faith in the squad players outside 14 or 15 players. 

I agree with yours post. We stopped goals going in and keep some clean sheets which is what fans wanted. A more pragmatic approach. 

I bet you were one of the supporters who backed big Sam's sacking because he was too pragmatic 

Edited May 4 by roverandout

[martonrover]

11 hours ago, onlyonejackwalker said:

However and having said all that, I really don't like the bloke at all. I  tried and gave him a chance. But fawning and smug we have seen it all before. He should be putting cones out. He has not done anything any average manager from any division could, or would have done.

I don't see Eustace as fawning and smug. He's just not very media savvy and doesn't come across very well, so his interviews are uncomfortable.

He doesn't strike the right balance between reality and positivity, and always strays too far towards the latter.

He comes across as a bit thick, but I know a guy who was one of his school teachers and he described him as "bright".

It's on the pitch where it matters, and for sure it has been a difficult watch, but if he keeps us up it will be job done for him this season, and he will have earned another shot next season.

Any average manager from any division, (and probably any decent ones too), would struggle at this version of Blackburn Rovers.

[Mattyblue]

31 minutes ago, roverandout said:

I bet you were one of the supporters who backed big Sam's sacking because he was too pragmatic 

He did, ‘Well, I’ve heard he wanted a job in the Middle East’ he kept banging on about.

[Mattyblue]

4 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

This is no more Eustace’s fault than it is Ten Hag’s fault at United. Both clubs are rotten.

Rovers are in a process of ‘managed decline’. The budget gets cut every year, and it shows…in the stadium, around the ground and on the pitch. I saw a table this week showing that only Rotherham had a smaller wage budget than us this season.

Eustace has a good name within football. He’s well regarded by some of the old pros I know and you will struggle to find a fan of Birmingham or Kidderminster who have a bad word to say about him.

I’m not advocating him and the jury is still out for me but, Blackburn Rovers make it hard for any manager on the planet to succeed. Look at the January window for example. We had won one game since November and they loan out the club captain, sell the most prestigious talent we’ve had in recent history and then buy no one and ‘forget’ to press send on the American Striker we wanted to sign. Add this to last Summers clusterfuck, the O’brien fuck up the January before then and the Rothwell for Dembele and Jed Wallace the January before that, and you’d be forgiven for thinking someone at the club actually wants us to go down. They haven’t made it easy for any manager…that’s for sure.

Im relaxed-ish about today. Because honestly, the curve we’re on means even if we survive, it’s only a matter of time before we go down.

Hope change is around the corner. 

Bloody hell Paul if we get a post as downbeat as that from you then we really are heading for the abyss. 😔

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

5 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

This is no more Eustace’s fault than it is Ten Hag’s fault at United. Both clubs are rotten.

Rovers are in a process of ‘managed decline’. The budget gets cut every year, and it shows…in the stadium, around the ground and on the pitch. I saw a table this week showing that only Rotherham had a smaller wage budget than us this season.

Eustace has a good name within football. He’s well regarded by some of the old pros I know and you will struggle to find a fan of Birmingham or Kidderminster who have a bad word to say about him.

I’m not advocating him and the jury is still out for me but, Blackburn Rovers make it hard for any manager on the planet to succeed. Look at the January window for example. We had won one game since November and they loan out the club captain, sell the most prestigious talent we’ve had in recent history and then buy no one and ‘forget’ to press send on the American Striker we wanted to sign. Add this to last Summers clusterfuck, the O’brien fuck up the January before then and the Rothwell for Dembele and Jed Wallace the January before that, and you’d be forgiven for thinking someone at the club actually wants us to go down. They haven’t made it easy for any manager…that’s for sure.

Im relaxed-ish about today. Because honestly, the curve we’re on means even if we survive, it’s only a matter of time before we go down.

Hope change is around the corner. 

10/10

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

No element at the club is set up for success. It’s as simple as that.

[Mashed Potatoes]

8 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

No element at the club is set up for success. It’s as simple as that.

Possibly other than the Academy which seems to do well; that may be an area of the club in which the owners don't interfere.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

12 minutes ago, Mashed Potatoes said:

Possibly other than the Academy which seems to do well; that may be an area of the club in which the owners don't interfere.

Yes the academy is our one success story. How long for is in the lap of the gods.