sverrehh Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 When having head of recruitment and head of technical it is imperative that they get financial backing from owners. Otherwise their roles are next to obsolete, with few exceptions 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lraC Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 21 minutes ago, Wheelton Blue said: Didn't you previously say that the DOF/head coach set up was a 'proper football structure' ? That ended well! What makes you think, that under these owners and administrators, any structure would work? In 2 years time, we'll be back to square 1. Again. I actually dread to think where will be in 2 years time to be honest. I think the club is in serious trouble right now and will be very surprised if something major doesn't happen between now and Christmas, that put's the very future of BRFC in jeopardy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Venkhater Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 2 minutes ago, lraC said: I actually dread to think where will be in 2 years time to be honest. I think the club is in serious trouble right now and will be very surprised if something major doesn't happen between now and Christmas, that put's the very future of BRFC in jeopardy. If it is going to happen, just bring it on now...so we can face it head on and start to rebuild. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevAshton Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 6 minutes ago, lraC said: I actually dread to think where will be in 2 years time to be honest. I think the club is in serious trouble right now and will be very surprised if something major doesn't happen between now and Christmas, that put's the very future of BRFC in jeopardy. Agreed. If I could have a look 2 years into the future, I wouldn't be one bit surprised to see us struggling in League One. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted May 22, 2024 Author Share Posted May 22, 2024 37 minutes ago, sverrehh said: When having head of recruitment and head of technical it is imperative that they get financial backing from owners. Otherwise their roles are next to obsolete, with few exceptions E.g. when GB was in role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: Its called having a proper sporting structure. Most clubs have this kind of structure in place at football club More like we have split the role into 2 now. A guy for transfer and recruitment then one like Technical head of football It wont be a proper sporting structure here under Venkys and im surprised you havent learnt by now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonrover Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 49 minutes ago, sverrehh said: When having head of recruitment and head of technical it is imperative that they get financial backing from owners. Otherwise their roles are next to obsolete, with few exceptions Or at least given the authority to make strategic decisions, in collaboration with a competent, industrious CEO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 (edited) Think this is now all getting rather silly. Currently we have: Head Coach: John Eustace Assistant Head Coaches: Matt Gardiner and Keith Downing First Team Coach: David Lowe Goalkeeping Coach: Ben Benson First Team Technical Coach & Head of Player Development: Damien Johnson Head of Player Recruitment: Sean Kimberley So that is 6 coaches for the first team! Supposedly, we are now looking at: A Head of Recruitment/Transfers (wtf does Kimberley do?) A 'Technical Director' (doesn't Damien Johnson do this?) Is this not simply replacing Broughton with two others? All this flies in the face of muted draconian cost cutting. For a club of our size and ambition and losing some £20million per season, I think we are grossly overstaffed. A lean machine? You are having a larf. IMO, far too many on the gravy train which seems to be heading for derailment should all this nonsense continue. Edited May 22, 2024 by Mercer 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martonrover Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 4 minutes ago, Mercer said: Think this is now all getting rather silly. Currently we have: Head Coach: John Eustace Assistant Head Coaches: Matt Gardiner and Keith Downing First Team Coach: David Lowe Goalkeeping Coach: Ben Benson First Team Technical Coach & Head of Player Development: Damien Johnson Head of Player Recruitment: Sean Kimberley So that is 6 coaches for the first team! Supposedly, we are now looking at: A Head of Recruitment/Transfers (wtf does Kimberley do?) A 'Technical Director' (doesn't Damien Johnson do this?) Is this not simply replacing Broughton with two others? All this flies in the face of muted draconian cost cutting. For a club of our size and ambition and losing some £20million per season, I think we are grossly overstaffed. A lean machine? You are having a larf. IMO, far too many on the gravy train which seems to be heading for derailment should all this nonsense continue. We will soon have a bigger backroom staff than first team squad! Why does Lowe always survive any change to the set up? What does he know and does he prefer keeping his increasingly unnecessary job to signing a NDA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsdenrover Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 1 hour ago, RoversClitheroe said: He just follows literally everything the club do and says it's the best step forward. Does it with transfers too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimpshrine Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 Sounds like Waggott signing up a few of his mates while acting as their agent. Watch John Fleck get a contract extension too! Taking advantage of his new position of power before the house of cards eventually tumbles. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lraC Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 40 minutes ago, Mercer said: Think this is now all getting rather silly. Currently we have: Head Coach: John Eustace Assistant Head Coaches: Matt Gardiner and Keith Downing First Team Coach: David Lowe Goalkeeping Coach: Ben Benson First Team Technical Coach & Head of Player Development: Damien Johnson Head of Player Recruitment: Sean Kimberley So that is 6 coaches for the first team! Supposedly, we are now looking at: A Head of Recruitment/Transfers (wtf does Kimberley do?) A 'Technical Director' (doesn't Damien Johnson do this?) Is this not simply replacing Broughton with two others? All this flies in the face of muted draconian cost cutting. For a club of our size and ambition and losing some £20million per season, I think we are grossly overstaffed. A lean machine? You are having a larf. IMO, far too many on the gravy train which seems to be heading for derailment should all this nonsense continue. Keep the numbers high, so that those taking their cut under the radar, can remain there secretly taking their. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewood Ace Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said: three roles? why is waste of money putting in a proper football structure into the club and not a manager and CEO? very few clubs run that way for good reasons nowadays Because under these owners in it impossible to get a proper football structure in place. It is like rearranging the deck chairs on The Titanic. Edited May 22, 2024 by Ewood Ace 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 1 hour ago, Mercer said: Think this is now all getting rather silly. Currently we have: Head Coach: John Eustace Assistant Head Coaches: Matt Gardiner and Keith Downing First Team Coach: David Lowe Goalkeeping Coach: Ben Benson First Team Technical Coach & Head of Player Development: Damien Johnson Head of Player Recruitment: Sean Kimberley So that is 6 coaches for the first team! Supposedly, we are now looking at: A Head of Recruitment/Transfers (wtf does Kimberley do?) A 'Technical Director' (doesn't Damien Johnson do this?) Is this not simply replacing Broughton with two others? All this flies in the face of muted draconian cost cutting. For a club of our size and ambition and losing some £20million per season, I think we are grossly overstaffed. A lean machine? You are having a larf. IMO, far too many on the gravy train which seems to be heading for derailment should all this nonsense continue. This is silly Mercer. I'm sure other clubs are better staffed in these roles. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: This is silly Mercer. I'm sure other clubs are better staffed in these roles. Yeh I'm pretty sure that's a fairly normal number of coaches. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: This is silly Mercer. I'm sure other clubs are better staffed in these roles. https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/teams/men/squad-list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Mellelieu Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 https://www.itfc.co.uk/club/whos-who/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 16 minutes ago, Paul Mellelieu said: https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/teams/men/squad-list Our own website has a 'staff' section for the first team...it just has John Eustace 🤣 Christ we are bad at maintaining the website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIMON GARNERS 194 Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 Survival is the name of the game down Ewood...now get those Season Tickets bought. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankEnd Rover Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 16 hours ago, Neal said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-13444541/Bristol-City-Blackburn-lead-chase-Motherwell-striker-Theo-Bair-Canadian-stars-prolific-season.html Doesn't fill me with confidence. Wonder with this one if we'd offer them Vale (as a permanent) and gent back (loan) as a trade? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 5 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said: Even I don't have a Technical Director in Football Manager. I'm not a savage. Rovers have one on there 4 hours ago, Wheelton Blue said: Didn't you previously say that the DOF/head coach set up was a 'proper football structure' ? That ended well! What makes you think, that under these owners and administrators, any structure would work? In 2 years time, we'll be back to square 1. Again. Its a similar setup but GB former role is split into two with one person focusing on recruitments, contracts and transfers whilst other focus on the technical side of the role and academy 3 hours ago, martonrover said: We will soon have a bigger backroom staff than first team squad! Why does Lowe always survive any change to the set up? What does he know and does he prefer keeping his increasingly unnecessary job to signing a NDA? We have different roles for staff. Most clubs at this level have massive first team staff including performance analysis and scouting/recruitment staff On Lowe, Its a very good question 1 hour ago, bluebruce said: Our own website has a 'staff' section for the first team...it just has John Eustace 🤣 Christ we are bad at maintaining the website. much bigger than that Staff | rovers.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, Leonard Venkhater said: If it is going to happen, just bring it on now...so we can face it head on and start to rebuild. Are they quietly beginning to exit stage left hidden behind the veil of investigations, fund freezes and Indian Tax laws ? Could we be in for a few years of cranked up managed downscale whilst they slowly sever ties i wonder. Wouldn't be surprised to wake up one morning in a couple of seasons time to see ownership has been transferred on Companies House from VLL to some new set up holding company with unknown Indian names and Big Barry. Edited May 22, 2024 by tomphil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 Thinking about the Theo Bair rumour... I'd probably prefer him than McGuire tbh 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbrovers2288 Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 12 hours ago, Ricky said: Just seen that Rangers are looking at bringing in a new Keeper. Would Eustace have worked with Butland at Birmingham? He’s still under contract so it may be a non starter but could be a better option than Ruddy. Your having a laugh surely? He is their player of the season, will be wanting serious money to part with him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bbrovers2288 Posted May 22, 2024 Share Posted May 22, 2024 3 minutes ago, Neal said: Thinking about the Theo Bair rumour... I'd probably prefer him than McGuire tbh Theo bair is awful, ask st Johnstone fans for their opinion on him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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