Rover8T4 Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 Will these dark days ever end! Even the Almighty couldn't shine any light through the thick dark cloud of the venkys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Devon Rover Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: I’d love to know what he’s learnt from being at Rovers. Always value in learning what not to do from a brief stint at a dysfunctional organisation. Makes me wish I could apply a similar approach to the team I support. Learnt from the experience, walked away a stronger person. If only it were that easy! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluebruce Posted May 29, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2024 29 minutes ago, KentExile said: Luke Griffin (Rovers Head of European Scouting) also off this summer. So that's no UK or international scouting at the moment, may as well close this thread for now Rovers do have an advert posted in linkedin for Head of International Scouting, which I guess replaces the Head of European Scouting and gives that slight hope (which will likely not come to fruition) that Rovers may sign a load of South Korean or Japanese wonderkids for next to nothing I guess we can't be surprised. Much like for GB, it must have been frustrating to spend all that time scouting and refining targets only for the goalposts to shift every time, the rug get pulled out from under you, and then your professional reputation be tarnished when the club only goes for target number 86 on your list. I can see why someone would want to leave before they become unemployable. 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bluebruce Posted May 29, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2024 15 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said: I’d love to know what he’s learnt from being at Rovers. Not to work for Rovers. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsdenrover Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 7 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Not to work for Rovers. That made me laugh more than it should 😁 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 39 minutes ago, KentExile said: Luke Griffin (Rovers Head of European Scouting) also off this summer. So that's no UK or international scouting at the moment, may as well close this thread for now Rovers do have an advert posted in linkedin for Head of International Scouting, which I guess replaces the Head of European Scouting and gives that slight hope (which will likely not come to fruition) that Rovers may sign a load of South Korean or Japanese wonderkids for next to nothing Think there's a clear pattern emerging! Other than the desperados, difficult to imagine who would want to work for Rovers? I think our name must be mud out in the football world (clubs, players, agents etc). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miller11 Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 A complete overhaul of the scouting department could be a real positive. Supposedly we’ve been stuck on the same player lists for every window in recent memory, so hopefully this will represent a clean slate. Our permanent signings over the last couple of years have been very hit and miss, and our loan business has been diabolical. As long as we get replacements in in a timely fashion I don’t think the current exodus is much of a concern. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 39 minutes ago, Mercer said: Think there's a clear pattern emerging! Other than the desperados, difficult to imagine who would want to work for Rovers? I think our name must be mud out in the football world (clubs, players, agents etc). You’d only join Rovers if you can’t find anywhere else and you'll leave as soon as you do find somewhere else. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverblue Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 The cost cutting continues. As I said earlier in the summer there is no point having a DoF and scouting department when we have zero transfer funds. There is clearly also no motivation for the staff to stay there either. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imy9 Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 It makes sense based on the quality of players we have signed last summer. The big European signing was a keeper who is worse than the previous number one! sammie and tronstad are the two stand out signings, the rest have been very up and down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 53 minutes ago, Miller11 said: A complete overhaul of the scouting department could be a real positive. Supposedly we’ve been stuck on the same player lists for every window in recent memory, so hopefully this will represent a clean slate. Our permanent signings over the last couple of years have been very hit and miss, and our loan business has been diabolical. As long as we get replacements in in a timely fashion I don’t think the current exodus is much of a concern. This always seems to happen. We "overhaul" things on the scouting side, initially there are delays and then a reliance on old targets from the previous regime and then a couple of years in, people leave and we start from scratch. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex l Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 37 minutes ago, imy9 said: It makes sense based on the quality of players we have signed last summer. The big European signing was a keeper who is worse than the previous number one! sammie and tronstad are the two stand out signings, the rest have been very up and down. I'd argue the midfielder in his prime from the erdivisie or a regular Icelandic international who had played in the UCL were bigger European signings 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted May 29, 2024 Author Share Posted May 29, 2024 58 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: This always seems to happen. We "overhaul" things on the scouting side, initially there are delays and then a reliance on old targets from the previous regime and then a couple of years in, people leave and we start from scratch. Agreed. What happened to that Prestigious European network that was being revamped? There's no structure or direction at the club it's mental Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled_Rover Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 2 hours ago, Devon Rover said: Always value in learning what not to do from a brief stint at a dysfunctional organisation. Makes me wish I could apply a similar approach to the team I support. Learnt from the experience, walked away a stronger person. If only it were that easy! I'm so bitter - my dad was a Man City fan (still is in some ways, but he doesn't recognise the club they've become) from the 1960s/70s. I can't believe I was swayed over as a kid by those upstart Blackburn Rovers and their schools outreach programme when I was in primary school in the 1990s. I could be living the high life right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exiled_Rover Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 3 hours ago, KentExile said: Luke Griffin (Rovers Head of European Scouting) also off this summer. So that's no UK or international scouting at the moment, may as well close this thread for now Rovers do have an advert posted in linkedin for Head of International Scouting, which I guess replaces the Head of European Scouting and gives that slight hope (which will likely not come to fruition) that Rovers may sign a load of South Korean or Japanese wonderkids for next to nothing Could the last one to leave please turn off the lights? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J*B Posted May 29, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2024 5 hours ago, tomphil said: It's hard to explain to younger fans what a proper club we were before these lot turned up and i'm not talking about the Jack years and 95 etc. I'm on about the Souness, Hughes, Big Sam time where everyone working at Rovers and every penny was all directed into the first team squad and the aim was punch ABOVE your weight. Literally everything since Dec 2010 has not been normal yet the myth is peddled 'oh lots of clubs are run like this' Bollocks, only similar clubs are with similar crackpot owners. I find this one of the most frustrating things about being involved within the fanbase. It all comes down to standards to me - we used to have such high ones, now they're frankly disturbingly low. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post J*B Posted May 29, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted May 29, 2024 2 hours ago, Miller11 said: A complete overhaul of the scouting department could be a real positive. Supposedly we’ve been stuck on the same player lists for every window in recent memory, so hopefully this will represent a clean slate. Our permanent signings over the last couple of years have been very hit and miss, and our loan business has been diabolical. As long as we get replacements in in a timely fashion I don’t think the current exodus is much of a concern. I agree in principle, but once again I sit here saying: "who was responsible for moving to 'the model' - and why aren't they being held accountable if its determined it wasn't successful?" 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghost7 Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 The club is not moving forward under Steve Waggott it's as simple as that. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebruce Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 Was the Nixon rumour about Palace, Manure and Brighton wanting to sign our young striker Igor Tyjon posted? Just seen it, but looks like it's about 3 days old. Of course, 3-club rule, the one Nixon himself told us about. And the Nixon rule too (weather report says info will be hazy with a chance of scattered bullshit). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheRevAshton Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 (edited) It's insane, we have a CEO who blatantly does not care about the Club in the slightest. He lies, strips the Club of it's assets, hires all of his useless buddies, gives himself huge pay rises, rinses loyal supporters... yet he's completely untouchable. We need him gone, but the only people able to make that happen are even worse, and somehow care even less than he does. It's insane the things that we fans have had to put up with... mad things that would simply never happen at other Clubs are the norm here. I genuinely believe we're cursed at times! Edited May 29, 2024 by TheRevAshton 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 1 hour ago, J*B said: I find this one of the most frustrating things about being involved within the fanbase. It all comes down to standards to me - we used to have such high ones, now they're frankly disturbingly low. Imo it started in the Bowyer era when after the insane king rat period everyone was just so thankful for a bit of stability and a nice honest guy in the dugout. So 'just do enough' became enough for the remaining hardcore and nothing epitomised that more than GB and his stint. Younger newer fans growing up with that it becomes the norm to them as does the constant background nonsense off the pitch. All justified by 'but we could be Bury or Bolton' so just get behind the lads and owners FFS ! Sadly they haven't a clue what normal really is for this club. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 1 hour ago, TheRevAshton said: It's insane, we have a CEO who blatantly does not care about the Club in the slightest. He lies, strips the Club of it's assets, hires all of his useless buddies, gives himself huge pay rises, rinses loyal supporters... yet he's completely untouchable. We need him gone, but the only people able to make that happen are even worse, and somehow care even less than he does. It's insane the things that we fans have had to put up with... mad things that would simply never happen at other Clubs are the norm here. I genuinely believe we're cursed at times! The owners are the ones who strip the club of its assets, as much as Waggott is not fit fir purpose in any way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simongarnerisgod Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 5 hours ago, wilsdenrover said: I’d love to know what he’s learnt from being at Rovers. don`t ever come back here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davulsukur Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 6 hours ago, KentExile said: Luke Griffin (Rovers Head of European Scouting) also off this summer. So that's no UK or international scouting at the moment, may as well close this thread for now Rovers do have an advert posted in linkedin for Head of International Scouting, which I guess replaces the Head of European Scouting and gives that slight hope (which will likely not come to fruition) that Rovers may sign a load of South Korean or Japanese wonderkids for next to nothing How many people have left now? Feels like a few. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted May 29, 2024 Share Posted May 29, 2024 We are as likely as anything to be now undergoing step 2 of the new recent downgrade and looking to make backroom cost cutting wherever possible. Managed decline after another 20% shaved off the budget making it c40% in 12 months. Waggot has finally got the ownership sold on the Barnsley model and we will follow their path sooner rather than later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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