RoverDom Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Gamst said: Surely the value of something that is being sold is controlled by the seller as they either ultimately decide the price. You could offer me £50 for my car and if nobody else bids and I refuse to sell it to you, it doesn’t mean it’s worth £50. I could put my house on the market for £1million, doesn't make it worth it Price and value are different. The seller sets the price and the buyers decide whether it is reasonable based on its value. If you go to the shop and see a packet of crisps for sale for £10 youd say "that's not worth it". Value ultimately differs between parties as well. Edited August 11, 2024 by RoverDom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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KentExile Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: If they were that smart they wouldn’t be looking at Sammi. smart? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverblue Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 (edited) Rovers decide his value not Ipswich or the market. Pay what we want or piss off. Edited August 11, 2024 by roverblue 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 11 minutes ago, roverblue said: Rovers decide his value not Ipswich or the market. Pay what we want or piss off. The value of a car, house, footballer, football club, business etc is what a buyer who has the means and will to complete on a transaction is willing to pay for it. It really is that simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Penwortham Blue Posted August 11, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Mercer said: The value of a car, house, footballer, football club, business etc is what a buyer who has the means and will to complete on a transaction is willing to pay for it. It really is that simple. Only if you have a willing seller, a reluctant seller can ask for whatever they want and any interested party can then make their own decisions. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 Just now, Penwortham Blue said: Only if you have a willing seller, a reluctant seller can ask for whatever they want and any interested party can then make their own decisions. and there you have just agreed with what I said! Your reluctant seller has hiked the price and if the buyer won't pay then the value is overstated - it really is simple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 8 minutes ago, Mercer said: The value of a car, house, footballer, football club, business etc is what a buyer who has the means and will to complete on a transaction is willing to pay for it. It really is that simple. Ipswich have over spend on players who aren't proven PL players and just spend £15m on Delap who Szmodics out scored 4 to 1. They were willing to spend £15m on him but not for Szmodics's pricing. If Ipswich want him, paid the price we want and don't come back. They know the price for weeks and yet again mess us around for weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander200 Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 5 minutes ago, Mercer said: and there you have just agreed with what I said! Your reluctant seller has hiked the price and if the buyer won't pay then the value is overstated - it really is simple. We don't have to sell him. If Ipswich want to buy him then they have to pay what we have asked for. It really is that simple 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penwortham Blue Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 5 minutes ago, Mercer said: and there you have just agreed with what I said! Your reluctant seller has hiked the price and if the buyer won't pay then the value is overstated - it really is simple. No, perceived value can be very different depending on perspective. I’m sure that, like me, you have suggested that we sold Adam W way to low but under your scenario, we received his value 🤷♂️ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Ipswich have over spend on players who aren't proven PL players and just spend £15m on Delap who Szmodics out scored 4 to 1. They were willing to spend £15m on him but not for Szmodics's pricing. If Ipswich want him, paid the price we want and don't come back. They know the price for weeks and yet again mess us around for Then Rovers are over valuing Szmodics as no one is prepared to pay the asking price. Simple as. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ben_the_beast Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 We all know this anyway but somebody is telling porkies. £9m plus bonuses for Szmodics is a bargain. Out of that we'll be paying Peterborough a sell on clause and Szmodics will probably get one of these ridiculous loyalty payments which are common these days. We'll bring in very little after deductions of which peanuts will be reinvested. With the quoted price it makes no sense to sell if Venkys are willing to cover running costs. They obviously don't want too, hence the desperation to sell. We were told the court case had no baring on the running of the club before Wharton was sold. It'll be same again. Lies, lies, lies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, islander200 said: We don't have to sell him. If Ipswich want to buy him then they have to pay what we have asked for. It really is that simple No we don't have to sell Szmodics, however, the inescapable fact is his value is what someone is prepared to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander200 Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 1 minute ago, Mercer said: No we don't have to sell Szmodics, however, the inescapable fact is his value is what someone is prepared to pay. So I didn't see you moaning about the fee we got for Wharton? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Penwortham Blue said: No, perceived value can be very different depending on perspective. I’m sure that, like me, you have suggested that we sold Adam W way to low but under your scenario, we received his value 🤷♂️ Wharton was grossly under valued. I think it's reasonable to say Wharton was a distressed sale to keep the club alive. Palace had us by the balls as Ipswich may have come 20 August if the court case goes against the Raos Edited August 11, 2024 by Mercer 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Blue Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, Mercer said: No we don't have to sell Szmodics, however, the inescapable fact is his value is what someone is prepared to pay. It isn’t. His value is what Rovers say it is. Rovers own him. I can’t walk into a shop and dictate what I pay for the goods on sale. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoryRoversIreland Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 That Jack Hastings lad went on loan until January to a semi pro club in Nothern Ireland Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversinmyblood Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 24 minutes ago, Mercer said: The value of a car, house, footballer, football club, business etc is what a buyer who has the means and will to complete on a transaction is willing to pay for it. It really is that simple. Yes, IF you have to sell, but we don’t have to sell, therefore they have to pay a price we are prepared to sell for. It is a sellers market NOT a buyers market. Big difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, Mercer said: Then Rovers are over valuing Szmodics as no one is prepared to pay the asking price. Simple as. bollocks we are!!!! Ipswich have over spend on Muric, Delap and Greaves. FFS! Szmodics out performed Delap 4 to 1 in terms goals. Delap 8 goals, Szmodics 33 goals. Yet Delap is worth £15m yet Szmodics who is his peak of his career is worth that money. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverblue Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 41 minutes ago, Mercer said: The value of a car, house, footballer, football club, business etc is what a buyer who has the means and will to complete on a transaction is willing to pay for it. It really is that simple. If you want to get rid of something I agree. We don’t want to get rid of Szmodic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tugayisgod Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 28 minutes ago, islander200 said: So I didn't see you moaning about the fee we got for Wharton? Mercer is talking shite as usual. It really is that simple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TommyRovers Posted August 11, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted August 11, 2024 Never heard such nonsense. You don’t lower your asking price because the only team currently interested are refusing to meet it. You want the player, you pay the asking price or make a compromise. Ipswich are doing neither. when Rovers “lowball” other teams you scream bloody murder, when other teams “lowball” Rovers, we should bend over and accept their offers. 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB Rover Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 1 minute ago, RoverDom said: I could put my house on the market for £1million, doesn't make it worth it No, but if that’s what you want and nobody pays it then you keep it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB Rover Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 This has been massively over complicated. We want an amount for OUR player. He is worth that to us. If they don’t pay it they are more than welcome to fuck off. Very very simple. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MB Rover Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 There’s a few on here I wouldn’t mind buying a house or car off, make sure I’m the only one interested and turn up offering half the amount and it’s mine 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted August 11, 2024 Share Posted August 11, 2024 36 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: It isn’t. His value is what Rovers say it is. Rovers own him. I can’t walk into a shop and dictate what I pay for the goods on sale. 39 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: It isn’t. His value is what Rovers say it is. Rovers own him. I can’t walk into a shop and dictate what I pay for the goods on sale. So if Rovers say he's worth £50million he's worth £50million!?!? It's nonsense, his value is what someone is prepared to pay. Anyone walking into a shop to buy say white goods and paying what the price tag says really does need to give their head a wobble! It's called bartering and I've never failed yet to get a discount whether it be from Currys, John Lewis, Sky or BT. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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