KentExile Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) 13 minutes ago, PotterLog said: Is this "bless them" as in it's unrealistic, or "bless them" as in he's shite, or none of the above? Asking for a fanbase Very skillful player who disappears when the going gets tough. Would probably do very well in a team that is flying and suspect he will have a very decent career in the Prem. But he is not the player that you want as a mid/lower end of the table Championship team that needs to dig in to get results. He was ok (not spectacular so don't get too excited) for Rovers in the first half of last season when we were going well, but awful and as such hardy featured once the wheels came off after xmas. So I suppose how good a signing he may be depends on where Stoke should be aiming this season. Just out of interest, is Stokes entire transfer strategy to buy Rovers squad from last season? Ennis, Gally, linked with Travis & Moran 😉 I would have thought Ennis and Gallagher would have been enough of that particular line of thinking? Edited August 13, 2024 by KentExile 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bluebruce Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 1 minute ago, PotterLog said: Is this "bless them" as in it's unrealistic, or "bless them" as in he's shite, or none of the above? Asking for a fanbase He means he's shite and not worth fighting over. Personally I'd say he's...alright. Has talent and is one of those players that go on to succeed in another Championship side tbh, kinda like Morton did at Hull after being mostly wank here. But Moran in no way set the world alight here. Looked good in flashes, looked a bit shite for longer though. You'd need his game to kick on from where he's been at for it to be a good loan, but he showed enough for me to say that's possible. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pick32 Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 Moran wouldn’t get in our squad and we need to strengthen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotterLog Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 17 minutes ago, KentExile said: Very skillful player who disappears when the going gets tough. Would probably do very well in a team that is flying and suspect he will have a very decent career in the Prem. But he is not the player that you want as a mid/lower end of the table Championship team that needs to dig in to get results. He was ok (not spectacular so don't get too excited) for Rovers in the first half of last season when we were going well, but awful and as such hardy featured once the wheels came off after xmas. So I suppose how good a signing he may be depends on where Stoke should be aiming this season. Just out of interest, is Stokes entire transfer strategy to buy Rovers squad from last season? Ennis, Gally, linked with Travis & Moran 😉 I would have thought Ennis and Gallagher would have been enough of that particular line of thinking? We do seem to have developed a penchant for cherry-picking your best talent 😃 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 1 hour ago, Craigman said: Stoke and Bristol City are battling it out for Andrew Moran on loan from Brighton. Let them riot over him! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted August 13, 2024 Author Share Posted August 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, PotterLog said: We do seem to have developed a penchant for cherry-picking your best talent 😃 Worst talent I'd say. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentExile Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PotterLog said: We do seem to have developed a penchant for cherry-picking your best talent 😃 lol Edited August 13, 2024 by KentExile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted August 13, 2024 Author Share Posted August 13, 2024 Bournemouth have signed Araujo. Will the door open for James Hill to join? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torgeir Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) 11 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Bournemouth have signed Araujo. Will the door open for James Hill to join? Don’t think we need him? Edited August 13, 2024 by Torgeir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aletheia Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 Since 1936, 29 years in top flight Since 1936, 56 years in lower leagues Happy to have numbers corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 56 minutes ago, KentExile said: I think that you are severely underestimating just how much money Premier League teams (including newly promoted ones) pay their players Nah i'm not having it sorry they aren't taking a player from here on c12/15k a week and giving him a 40 or 50 grand a week 3 or 4 year deal. You lads are fantasising @Paul Mani If he was on a free yes and yes they might give that to a marquee signing or two but come on they won't even cough up a modest fee yet. Never mind the fact him and his agent would be spitting absolute fire at Rovers for potentially denying him that kind of coin. Lets me more sensible and assume he'd be on 25/30 grand a week which is still a massive pay rise and contract and more than enough to tempt him. A lot of people really overstate the amounts a newly promoted Prem club will chuck out on a player with no Prem experience and the potential to be on their books for a few years back in the Championship. Likes of Ipswich cut their cloth accordingly these days then if it doesn't work out first season they've plenty to spare from the parachutes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_of_the_rovers Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, Torgeir said: Don’t think we need him? Adds depth to CB and RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoversClitheroe Posted August 13, 2024 Author Share Posted August 13, 2024 2 minutes ago, Torgeir said: Don’t think we need him? Would be our best defender? 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentExile Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 1 minute ago, tomphil said: Nah i'm not having it sorry they aren't taking a player from here on c12/15k a week and giving him a 40 or 50 grand a week 3 or 4 year deal. That 3 or 4 year deal would include a 50% wage decrease in the event of relegation (standard across the board, as are 100% wage increases for Promotion to the Prem) Which means that if Ipswich were to buy Szmodics and get relegated, his wage in the Championship would be £20-£25K/week, which for a club with parachute payments is not out of reach Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotterLog Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 4 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said: Worst talent I'd say. Tongue was firmly in cheek but Ennis came on in our first game and actually did pretty well. Looked fit, did a lot of running and dragging defenders about. Involved in our goal. Maybe he'll have his uses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentExile Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, PotterLog said: Tongue was firmly in cheek but Ennis came on in our first game and actually did pretty well. Looked fit, did a lot of running and dragging defenders about. Involved in our goal. Maybe he'll have his uses. Draught excluder? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Ricky Posted August 13, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2024 If you do sign Moran expect one of his friends / family members to swamp your Messageboard with quotes of ‘the Irish Foden’ and random bollocks like that. 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KentExile Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) 1 minute ago, Ricky said: If you do sign Moran expect one of his friends / family members to swamp your Messageboard with quotes of ‘the Irish Foden’ and random bollocks like that. lol, I forgot all about him, kept saying we needed to drop Szmodics to play Moran centrally Edited August 13, 2024 by KentExile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomphil Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 1 hour ago, PotterLog said: Is this "bless them" as in it's unrealistic, or "bless them" as in he's shite, or none of the above? Asking for a fanbase We can be a bit harsh on here i'm sure you've noticed and some of the Moran comments are correct he looks good when the going is good but disappears the min it isn't. However these are young developing players from Prem clubs and are sent to our respective outfits to learn and grow and that's what happens. They are often physically not up to it, raw but have clear ability yet need to also develop that mental edge of coping in often struggling sides. A few seasons ago we had Morton from Liverpool and Moran replaced him in the squad last season and i think most thought, at first, he was an upgrade. Meanwhile Morton does a season at Hull and earns wide spread praise from their fans and the clamour for him back. A year old, stronger, wiser and a bit more experience which is what you might get from Moran, still another Rovers cast off though 🤣 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercer Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 27 minutes ago, PotterLog said: We do seem to have developed a penchant for cherry-picking your best talent 😃 Carry on cherry-picking! For me, you can have the feckin lot other than Carter, Tronstad, Rankin-Costello, Travis, Gueye, Weimann and Ohasi. As bonuses, we can throw in our CEO, COO and goalkeeper / set piece specialist! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverblue Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 1 hour ago, PotterLog said: Is this "bless them" as in it's unrealistic, or "bless them" as in he's shite, or none of the above? Asking for a fanbase leave well alone if you can, his reputation far exceeds his talent. Lazy, soft and not made for the championship. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricceh Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 (edited) I remember when he scored in the cup and everyone thought finally he can kick on, then he disappeared for 5 months. 6 minutes ago, roverblue said: leave well alone if you can, his reputation far exceeds his talent. Lazy, soft and not made for the championship. Edited August 13, 2024 by Ricceh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricky Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 30 minutes ago, tomphil said: We can be a bit harsh on here i'm sure you've noticed and some of the Moran comments are correct he looks good when the going is good but disappears the min it isn't. However these are young developing players from Prem clubs and are sent to our respective outfits to learn and grow and that's what happens. They are often physically not up to it, raw but have clear ability yet need to also develop that mental edge of coping in often struggling sides. A few seasons ago we had Morton from Liverpool and Moran replaced him in the squad last season and i think most thought, at first, he was an upgrade. Meanwhile Morton does a season at Hull and earns wide spread praise from their fans and the clamour for him back. A year old, stronger, wiser and a bit more experience which is what you might get from Moran, still another Rovers cast off though 🤣 We also had Branthwaite previously and I would have never thought he would become a £60m+ rated defender. Harwood-Bellis looked by far the better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darwen Rover 007 Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 1 hour ago, PotterLog said: We do seem to have developed a penchant for cherry-picking your best talent 😃 The next player on that list titled 'Total DS' is our amazing GK, he's a snip at £4m 😉 Alls I will say is thank you Stoke! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PotterLog Posted August 13, 2024 Share Posted August 13, 2024 Just now, roverblue said: leave well alone if you can, his reputation far exceeds his talent. Lazy, soft and not made for the championship. Very young though. He might build into it if he's talented Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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