London blue Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Iceman said: Keeping Sammie and surviving the championship drop, is way more valuable than 10 Mill in the coffers, that we will most likely not see re invested ok? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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roverandout Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: You’ve just proved my point a very poor derby side and equally bad if not worse Plymouth side in the division. So can’t imagine how we would be clear favourites to go down Not clear favourites but definitely one of the contenders Edited August 15, 2024 by roverandout Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London blue Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 1 minute ago, neophox said: Been here for 20 years on this message board and hoped Szmodics was something different to all money grabbing glory hunting played and would honour his contract but I was wrong... I'll calm down. Please. Tell me you would turn down your wages being doubled. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Just now, London blue said: ok? Okay what? Say what you want to say mate... It is what I said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald Isle Rover Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: What’s relevant is that they were prepared to pay it. Seems like the price ceiling for Championship players is a lot higher than the Happy Clappers had us believe. The price is dictated by age contract status experience in current league or other leagues 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Blue Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Just now, islander200 said: There was one club in for him at £18.5 why do you think we would have had clubs coming in at £40. Whilst Wharton had only played his football here in the championship there was doubts about him from the clubs above What doubts? Lots of clubs were going to be bidding this summer. He was sold on the cheap, you already conceded the point, and Rutter proves that. We’ll leave it there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emerald Isle Rover Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 1 minute ago, roverandout said: Not clear favourites but definitely one of the contenders There’s a good 8/9 teams in the mix for 3 positions no doubt. ‘Clear favs’ was my issue 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Blue Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said: The price is dictated by age contract status experience in current league or other leagues Wharton’s contract was similar in length to Rutters. I’ll ignore the bit you’ve invented about ‘other leagues’. Edited August 15, 2024 by Forever Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuffsLeftPeg Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 2 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: It’s not the end of the world if we replace him. We’ve always found a replacement for the goal scorers we’ve sold in the last few years. But we have to spend money now. We won’t get lucky every time. He’s been replaced already with Ohashi. This money won’t be reinvested. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TugaysMarlboro Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, neophox said: Been here for 20 years on this message board and hoped Szmodics was something different to all money grabbing glory hunting played and would honour his contract but I was wrong... I'll calm down. The anger is one thing, but money grabbing and contract honouring? He's moving up to play in what a lot of fans, pundits and players see as the best league in the world, all after returning 4x what we paid for him. He does his ACL in the next game at Rovers, do you think this fabled £22k week wage remains on the table or the Ipswich offer? It's cut throat and he's doing what's best for him and challenging himself to boot. A Lucash Neill he is not. Edited August 15, 2024 by TugaysMarlboro 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iceman Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said: There’s a good 8/9 teams in the mix for 3 positions no doubt. ‘Clear favs’ was my issue Give it 20 games at least, before we say who is clear favourites for the drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Blue Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Just now, DuffsLeftPeg said: He’s been replaced already with Ohashi. This money won’t be reinvested. That’s the fear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alex l Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 9 minutes ago, JHRover said: One definition of asset stripping: "the practice of taking over a company in financial difficulties and selling each of its assets separately at a profit without regard for the company's future" Most of that, other than the take over part, is what has been going on here for the last 3 years. And it's happened at various instances over the last 14 years. But what is the net figure over that period, the profit made by the Venkys from Rovers during their tenure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London blue Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 4 minutes ago, Iceman said: Okay what? Say what you want to say mate... It is what I said. It's just got no relevance to my point, that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danger19_80 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Sky saying £9m plus add ons fwiw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roverandout Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 8 minutes ago, neophox said: Been here for 20 years on this message board and hoped Szmodics was something different to all money grabbing glory hunting played and would honour his contract but I was wrong... I'll calm down. Your entitled to your opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davulsukur Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said: Not for me. He wanted his hat trick and another goal. Who can blame him? That's what a goalscorer wants who says the taps are off? Dolan has been earmarked for that position by Eustace. Now need 4 or 5 signings in in the next 15 days. Fucking hell Szmodics ➡️ Dolan, that's some serious downgrade. I'll repeat, if they don't spend some good money and buy an adequate replacement for Szmodics, we will struggle. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neophox Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Markanday and Szmodicz leaves makes us thinner upfront if someone gets injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islander200 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 1 minute ago, Forever Blue said: What doubts? Lots of clubs were going to be bidding this summer. He was sold on the cheap, you already conceded the point, and Rutter proves that. We’ll leave it there. What evidence is there loads of clubs where going to be bidding for him?He was available for £18.5 in January,paid in installments only £6 million would have gone on the books that season so not having ffp as an excuse why others couldn't have bid in January. His reputation rightfully grew due to him proving himself in the premier league, I honestly don't believe we would have had a host of clubs willing to pay much more than £20 million for him.Again il repeat he was wrongfully being overlooked for the under 21s, read an article that Newcastle considered him but had serious doubts over his stamina and ability to handle the pace and 90 minute at premier league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JHRover Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 10 minutes ago, Iceman said: Keeping Sammie and surviving the championship drop, is way more valuable than 10 Mill in the coffers, that we will most likely not see re invested That's a medium to long term view though, which nobody in a senior position at Rovers seems to have any interest in. In their world it is all about the here and now. Cash in the bank, bills paid. They've zero interest in where the club might be in 12-18 months time and the longer term consequences of their actions (or inaction). Very easy to sit back and 'negotiate' the sales of valued players and watch as the cash comes flowing into the coffers and raking in your bonus from India for doing them a favour. Then when inevitably the chickens come home to roost from this short sighted cash grab they'll act puzzled and confused when we get relegated and lose more than they've gained. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 32 minutes ago, JHRover said: I wonder who has been telling Nixon that: a) We were desperate to keep him b) We were offering him £22k a week c) We offered to make him captain I suspect all 3 are lies and probably filtered out to the press by Waggott or an underling. I actually think that it's really unprofessional of the club for this kind of information to be leaked to a red-top hack. What we offer a player to stay is confidential, unless the player wants to make it public. Anyway, it was inevitable that SS was leaving this summer, but he leaves on a high (last season and 3 goals in 2 games this, so far). Good luck to him, it's going to be a struggle at Ipswich, but I'm sure he'll open his banking app every week and the weekly 0-5 drubbings they're facing will be soon forgotten. Genuinely hope he does well and earns a move to a bigger club whilst he's still at the peak of his powers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neophox Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 7 minutes ago, TugaysMarlboro said: The anger is one thing, but money grabbing and contract honouring? He's moving up to play in what a lot of fans, pundits and players see as the best league in the world, all after returning 4x what we paid for him. He does his ACL in the next game at Rovers, do you think this fabled £22k week wage remains on the table or the Ipswich offer? It's cut throat and he's doing what's best for him and challenging himself to boot. A Lucash Neill he is not. We won't reinvest for sure so that's good for Venkys but poor for us... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambridgeRover Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 Jesus Dolan is pants, if any one is expecting him to kick on they will be very disappointed. We need a starting quality, goalkeeper, leftback, left winger , creative midfielder stat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roversfan99 Posted August 15, 2024 Share Posted August 15, 2024 1 minute ago, islander200 said: What evidence is there loads of clubs where going to be bidding for him?He was available for £18.5 in January,paid in installments only £6 million would have gone on the books that season so not having ffp as an excuse why others couldn't have bid in January. His reputation rightfully grew due to him proving himself in the premier league, I honestly don't believe we would have had a host of clubs willing to pay much more than £20 million for him.Again il repeat he was wrongfully being overlooked for the under 21s, read an article that Newcastle considered him but had serious doubts over his stamina and ability to handle the pace and 90 minute at premier league What are you referring to in terms of FFP, do you mean in our accounts or in the buyers accounts? For us, all of the fee will have gone into the 2024 accounts as a profit, as we didnt pay anything for him. For the buyer as far as I am aware, installments make no difference. The fee would be amortized over the lesser of the course of his contract and 5 years. So say £20m, it would be £4m amoritisation per year, so £2m for the January to June period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post imy9 Posted August 15, 2024 Popular Post Share Posted August 15, 2024 He is doing what’s right for himself and his family- ANYONE in his position would do the same, aged the same. Conducted himself like a pro, a real sad day for us but made up for Sammie. 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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