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[jim mk2]

1 goalkeeper

2 right back

3 left back

4 right half

5 centre half

6 left half

7 right wing

8 inside right

9 centre forward

10 inside left 

11 left wing

proper football

now that’s sorted have we signed anyone today? 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

8 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Hmmm i'd say Bohinen and Dunn are number 10s too. 8 is a box to box player... Maybe Dunn early days was going box to box but most of his career he was purely an attacking player.

My examples would be 

6 (deep midfielder) ; Tugay, Wharton, Batty

8 (box to box) : Travis, Rothwell, Sherwood

10 (attacking midfielder / second striker) :  Dack, Dunn, Cairney

So 6 is the old 4 and 10  is the old 8. 

I wouldn't class Dunn/Cairney the same as a Baggio/Riquelme/Totti/Bergkamp. 

Dack  - maybe. 

[alex l]

8 - attacking midfielder - Gascoigne.

10 - forward who plays off the out and out striker - Sherringham. 

However this was more in the 442 days.

[BlackburnEnd75]

6 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Hmmm i'd say Bohinen and Dunn are number 10s too. 8 is a box to box player... Maybe Dunn early days was going box to box but most of his career he was purely an attacking player.

My examples would be 

6 (deep midfielder) ; Tugay, Wharton, Batty

8 (box to box) : Travis, Rothwell, Sherwood

10 (attacking midfielder / second striker) :  Dack, Dunn, Cairney

See I think Cairney could've been moulded into an 6/8. Early Dunn was an 8.

An 8 I'd say roams around more, a 6 holds shape more, can be a ball player or a destroyer type.

A 10 has more freedom

Other examples:

6:   tronstad, souness era flitcroft, Lee Williamson, n'zonzi, 

8: robbie savage, steven reid.

10: Ruben rochina

-8: Hope Akpan

[Armchair supporter supremo]

6 minutes ago, Hasta said:

Come off It people. A 6 is a centre half. Always has been. Always will be.

Pep. Total football. Number 6 - Ake.

 

Really. 6 has always been a more defensive/holding midfielder in my book (thinking batty) 4 & 5 centre backs and 8 is a more box to box midfielder (ala sherwood) 

 

 

Edited August 29, 2024 by Armchair supporter supremo

[Moptop1]

1 hour ago, Forever Blue said:

He’s at Burton Albion now

Thought he actually came from WBA, not West Ham.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

14 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

We wouldn’t go higher than £1m apparently- can’t remember which journo said it. 

Reporter Waggott  from the Hard Times. 

[Mars Rover]

Frankly, I hate the idea of denoting positions/roles on the pitch with numbers. Leave that to Rugby.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

10 minutes ago, PotterLog said:

 

To be brutally frank about it, he provides that, and not a great deal else. He's a skillful player but in a way not very suited to the modern game. Doesn't press well, doesn't offer much presence and too often the game passes him by. Does provide a goal threat though and that's not to be sniffed at. 

Put it this way I'll be very disappointed if Moran isn't an upgrade for us 😃 (which he certainly was in the cup the other night)

Thanks.  He should fit right in.  

[Angry_Pirate]

Hope Akpan taking strays on Deadline Eve 2024 was also not on my Bingo Card 🤣

[Iceman]

1 hour ago, Forever Blue said:

Seems we’re spending some dough on a Baker…..in a position we knead cover. 
 

Donut do this again 

[joey_big_nose]

2 minutes ago, alex l said:

8 - attacking midfielder - Gascoigne.

10 - forward who plays off the out and out striker - Sherringham. 

However this was more in the 442 days.

In today's football Gascoigne would be a number 10 all day long. No one would play him deeper than that. He'd also probably be made to play wide sometimes as an "inverted winger" as is the fashion so they could shoe him in with a couple of other attacking mids. 

[BlackburnEnd75]

11 minutes ago, PotterLog said:

 

To be brutally frank about it, he provides that, and not a great deal else. He's a skillful player but in a way not very suited to the modern game. Doesn't press well, doesn't offer much presence and too often the game passes him by. Does provide a goal threat though and that's not to be sniffed at. 

Put it this way I'll be very disappointed if Moran isn't an upgrade for us 😃 (which he certainly was in the cup the other night)

I'll be honest moran might be that minus the good set pieces 🤣. 

Moran had a couple of decent games for us in the first half of the season especially in the league but was completely annoymous 2nd half of the season. 

He wasn't quick or confident enough to play wide. Went missing too often,  too powderpuff to play cm. Would be interesting what he could do as 10 but I'm glad he's not rocked back here (also glad you've taken gally and ennis of us)

[Polky]

Not sure if posted already…

 

The Athletic are expecting the medical to either be today or early tomorrow.

[booth]

17 minutes ago, PotterLog said:

 

To be brutally frank about it, he provides that, and not a great deal else. He's a skillful player but in a way not very suited to the modern game. Doesn't press well, doesn't offer much presence and too often the game passes him by. Does provide a goal threat though and that's not to be sniffed at. 

Put it this way I'll be very disappointed if Moran isn't an upgrade for us 😃 (which he certainly was in the cup the other night)

Moran played well for us at the beginning of the season then quickly became a passenger, passing to invisible men or the opposition. He could make a good player though if he toughened up.

[Exiled_Rover]

28 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Don't know much about Baker except he's been mentioned as a target for a while.  Would make sense but assume  very similar to Cantwell - unless that's now fallen through.

Keeper - Meh.  Wait and see. 

Beck. Be interesting if Pickering injured for Sat.  If the lad is good, he should be straight in otherwise it'll be Britain  at left back. 

No idea how good the potential winger from Brighton is.  Would rather we signed a permanent winger with him as a bonus. 

Cantwell - Believe it when I see it. 

 

Permanent winger, Striker and CB for a 

very good window. 

Now Dembele is off the table are there any other wingers we've been interested in? I'd still love Poku.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

3 minutes ago, Polky said:

Not sure if posted already…

 

The Athletic are expecting the medical to either be today or early tomorrow.

Safe bet given that the window closes tomorrow.  Is it Mystic Meg?

[Exiled_Rover]

24 minutes ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Thanks for the 8/10 clarification. 

 

Strikes me we don't currently play with an '8' then. Rather 2 sixes and a ten. 🤷🏻‍♂️

If Baker is an 8,  then is he a ball carrier or a dribbler 🤯

Travis is an 8 - he's a box-to-box CM, but yes in the 4-2-3-1 formation you usually play with two 6s.

[Exiled_Rover]

38 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

But Szmods wore No.8?!?!

And Pears wears No.1... 😉

[booth]

3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Now Dembele is off the table are there any other wingers we've been interested in? I'd still love Poku.

Aasgaard, but he's more of an attacking midfielder.

[Exiled_Rover]

34 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Yeah, usually to a player with an opponent breathing down his neck.  Watch any division at the weekend and count the number of goal scoring opportunities given away by the keeper cocking up a pass. 

It's why Luton got promoted - they went completely against the new norm of playing out from the back and played two big #9s. a) it eliminates those suicidal goals you concede asking your GK to be a playmaker and b) modern CBs simply aren't used to playing against crossed balls into the box.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 minute ago, booth said:

Aasgaard, but he's more of an attacking midfielder.

Is he an 8, a 10 or a Jack ?

[Exiled_Rover]

26 minutes ago, PotterLog said:

 

To be brutally frank about it, he provides that, and not a great deal else. He's a skillful player but in a way not very suited to the modern game. Doesn't press well, doesn't offer much presence and too often the game passes him by. Does provide a goal threat though and that's not to be sniffed at. 

Put it this way I'll be very disappointed if Moran isn't an upgrade for us 😃 (which he certainly was in the cup the other night)

Moran can't play CM. 

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

Just now, Exiled_Rover said:

It's why Luton got promoted - they went completely against the new norm of playing out from the back and played two big #9s. a) it eliminates those suicidal goals you concede asking your GK to be a playmaker and b) modern CBs simply aren't used to playing against crossed balls into the box.

Does Pep know yet ?

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Now Dembele is off the table are there any other wingers we've been interested in? I'd still love Poku.

Matondo? 

Surely we've put our  hat in for Doak.  Although it seems half of the Prem/Champ also have so next to no chance. 

A lot of the European wingers in our pond have moved already.