Forever Blue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 3 hours ago, roversfan99 said: I love the idea that any new scouts must have been promised a decent budget in order to join. As if literally no one, even if it meant a step up or a jump in wages from a previous smaller club or even one currently out of work would be attainable if the budget was tight. Do you know there isn’t a decent budget? Quote
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Popular Post JHRover Posted June 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 6, 2024 (edited) So well down the road of completely dismantling one setup within the space of 2 years of starting it despite putting no resources forward to allow it to work and now predictably turning to old contacts as the solution to fill the void. I'd ask what the point of the last 2 years has been as it has got us nowhere whatsoever other than coming out of it with a far weaker squad of players but for the owners it has probably cost them nothing, for the slimeballs in the boardroom they've had another few hassle free years of well paid employment and they're now milking Adam Wharton's rise for everything they can get but of course won't be doing the key part and spending his money. Absolutely shameless. Edited June 6, 2024 by JHRover 12 Quote
Forever Blue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 3 hours ago, JHRover said: So well down the road of completely dismantling one setup within the space of 2 years of starting it despite putting no resources forward to allow it to work and now predictably turning to old contacts as the solution to fill the void. I'd ask what the point of the last 2 years has been as it has got us nowhere whatsoever other than coming out of it with a far weaker squad of players but for the owners it has probably cost them nothing, for the slimeballs in the boardroom they've had another few hassle free years of well paid employment and they're now milking Adam Wharton's rise for everything they can get but of course won't be doing the key part and spending his money. Absolutely shameless. Yes, all of Broughton’s men are being axed. Kimberley was only appointed April ‘23 so he had two windows with little money. Quote
roversfan99 Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 4 hours ago, Forever Blue said: Do you know there isn’t a decent budget? No. My point is just that appointing staff doesnt mean there must be. Quote
Forever Blue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 8 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: No. My point is just that appointing staff doesnt mean there must be. And appointing staff doesn’t mean there isn’t. Quote
roversfan99 Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 1 minute ago, Forever Blue said: And appointing staff doesn’t mean there isn’t. I never said that. Im not the one assuming that appointing staff implies anything about budget. Quote
Mattyblue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 (edited) 4 hours ago, JHRover said: So well down the road of completely dismantling one setup within the space of 2 years of starting it despite putting no resources forward to allow it to work and now predictably turning to old contacts as the solution to fill the void. I'd ask what the point of the last 2 years has been as it has got us nowhere whatsoever other than coming out of it with a far weaker squad of players but for the owners it has probably cost them nothing, for the slimeballs in the boardroom they've had another few hassle free years of well paid employment and they're now milking Adam Wharton's rise for everything they can get but of course won't be doing the key part and spending his money. Absolutely shameless. So wait the owners *weren’t* serious when two years ago it was definitely a new dawn (with our sparkly new structure) this time. We had a ‘model’ that was definitely the way forward. ‘Sell on and invest’, ‘incremental improvement’, ‘Brentford’. And the usual Eeyore brfcs-ers who were a tad sceptical weren’t just being their tiresome glass totally empty selves… but might just have learnt something, over, you know, a decade. Edited June 6, 2024 by Mattyblue 7 Quote
Forever Blue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 10 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: I never said that. Im not the one assuming that appointing staff implies anything about budget. You don’t know if that assumption is incorrect. Quote
Upside Down Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 13 minutes ago, Mattyblue said: So wait the owners *weren’t* serious when two years ago it was definitely a new dawn (with our sparkly new structure) this time. We had a ‘model’ that was definitely the way forward. ‘Sell on and invest’, ‘incremental improvement’, ‘Brentford’. And the usual Eeyore brfcs-ers who were a tad sceptical weren’t just being their tiresome glass totally empty selves… but might just have learnt something, over, you know, a decade. Stup beeeng negitivv and get behind the ladz FFS! Quote
ABBEY Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 9 hours ago, LDRover said: Bingo!!! All window dressing in a shit up, cracked window in a rotten wooden frame. And certain happy clappers on here fall for brainwashing without questioning anything. Quote
tomphil Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 5 hours ago, JHRover said: So well down the road of completely dismantling one setup within the space of 2 years of starting it despite putting no resources forward to allow it to work and now predictably turning to old contacts as the solution to fill the void. I'd ask what the point of the last 2 years has been as it has got us nowhere whatsoever other than coming out of it with a far weaker squad of players but for the owners it has probably cost them nothing, for the slimeballs in the boardroom they've had another few hassle free years of well paid employment and they're now milking Adam Wharton's rise for everything they can get but of course won't be doing the key part and spending his money. Absolutely shameless. Having seen it all before some of us did predict how it would likely pan out. JDT and the new set up exceeded expectations in the first season of course which makes it even harder to swallow this time but in reality it just all falls in line with how this club has been run for over a decade. It just isn't geared for any kind of success at all. 5 Quote
Popular Post 47er Posted June 6, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 6, 2024 10 minutes ago, tomphil said: Having seen it all before some of us did predict how it would likely pan out. JDT and the new set up exceeded expectations in the first season of course which makes it even harder to swallow this time but in reality it just all falls in line with how this club has been run for over a decade. It just isn't geared for any kind of success at all. I bet Venkys regret ever signing up JDT. He showed us what was possible, specifically that the "journey" didn't have to go on forever. We'd have gone up if he'd been backed. 17 Quote
Mercer Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, tomphil said: Having seen it all before some of us did predict how it would likely pan out. JDT and the new set up exceeded expectations in the first season of course which makes it even harder to swallow this time but in reality it just all falls in line with how this club has been run for over a decade. It just isn't geared for any kind of success at all. I think the club has been stuck in reverse gear ever since the Raos became owners and when you are in reverse gear you only go backwards! Make no mistake, IMO, we are in one feckin heartbreaking mess. I think we are a rudderless club with not a hint of even a joined-up simple strategy other than certain indivuals and associates ensuring their snouts remain in the trough. 3 Quote
Forever Blue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 I think it is indisputable that when in reverse gear you only ever go backwards. But what if you faced the seats the opposite way? Quote
tomphil Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 9 minutes ago, 47er said: I bet Venkys regret ever signing up JDT. He showed us what was possible, specifically that the "journey" didn't have to go on forever. We'd have gone up if he'd been backed. I think he was just brought in to coach the youngsters in a more modern way to put value in them and that is the only reason he was here. They probably all expected him to just plod on, be happy to have his first English job and do as he was told whilst we plodded around in mid table for a season or 3 before the team was ready to be sold off again. He had other ideas and rather than thinking hey we've finally landed on a gem it seemed to be oh shit we didn't plan for this so pull up the drawbridge quick. 2 Quote
Tyrone Shoelaces Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 15 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: I think it is indisputable that when in reverse gear you only ever go backwards. But what if you faced the seats the opposite way? You mean at Ewood Park ? Good idea. 1 Quote
Forever Blue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 4 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said: You mean at Ewood Park ? Good idea. I didn’t but you could be on to something Quote
roverblue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 All I see so far this summer is people leaving and not being replaced. Its cost cutting IMO and nothing to do with a new plan/vision. 2 Quote
Penwortham Blue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 55 minutes ago, tomphil said: Having seen it all before some of us did predict how it would likely pan out. JDT and the new set up exceeded expectations in the first season of course which makes it even harder to swallow this time but in reality it just all falls in line with how this club has been run for over a decade. It just isn't geared for any kind of success at all. They didn’t reckon on JDT’s ambition and drive almost blowing it wide open by delivering promotion. A bit of backing and he would have got us there. 3 Quote
RevidgeBlue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 50 minutes ago, 47er said: I bet Venkys regret ever signing up JDT. He showed us what was possible, specifically that the "journey" didn't have to go on forever. We'd have gone up if he'd been backed. JDT working with a decent DOF who recruited well might have been enough to get us over the line despite the lack of support from elsewhere. Unfortunately for us, and possibly fortunately for Waggott's cosy little number, we appointed the Egg. As it is those sort of aspirations now look to be a million miles away, with even survival looking an uphill battle. 2 Quote
Torgeir Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said: JDT working with a decent DOF who recruited well might have been enough to get us over the line despite the lack of support from elsewhere. Unfortunately for us, and possibly fortunately for Waggott's cosy little number, we appointed the Egg. As it is those sort of aspirations now look to be a million miles away, with even survival looking an uphill battle. Don't forget that it was Gregg who brought JDT in. We were about to hire Big Dunc or someone of his calibre. 2 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 (edited) https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24369718.blackburn-turn-familiar-face-recruitment-team-shake-up/ Jackson confirming everything Nicko has already published. Jackson confirms Eustace will have some money to spend. Edited June 6, 2024 by chaddyrovers 2 Quote
MarkBRFC Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24369718.blackburn-turn-familiar-face-recruitment-team-shake-up/ Jackson confirming everything Nicko has already published. Jackson confirms Eustace will have some money to spend. Doesn't really confirm. He is "expected" to have money he says, I think that's purely guess work from Elliot. 1 Quote
Forever Blue Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24369718.blackburn-turn-familiar-face-recruitment-team-shake-up/ Jackson confirming everything Nicko has already published. Jackson confirms Eustace will have some money to spend. Good to see confirmation of what has been fairly obvious for a while. A new recruitment set up with money to spend. Quote
TheRevAshton Posted June 6, 2024 Posted June 6, 2024 (edited) 7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24369718.blackburn-turn-familiar-face-recruitment-team-shake-up/ Jackson confirming everything Nicko has already published. Jackson confirms Eustace will have some money to spend. "John Eustace is expected to work closely with Park and Waggott on Blackburn Rovers' recruitment this summer. The head coach is expected to have some funds available after the January sale of Adam Wharton." Above is what Jackson wrote, i've highlighted the key word there. JDT expected funds also. This is Rovers under the Venky's and Waggott... the only thing we should expect regarding funds, is that they'll provide way less than we need, if anything. Edited June 6, 2024 by TheRevAshton 3 Quote
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