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[roversfan99]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

if he was crap he wouldn't be playing at this level. He has makes some very good saves but very poor ones. He is inconsistence keeper at this stage of his career. 

 

He is crap, relative to Championship standard. Not every player playing at a certain standard is good enough for that standard.

There are a number of reasons why a player might be at a level beyond his ability. A club might be skint and have no choice. A club might be promoted and a player may find the step up too much. A player may be backup yet injuries/player sales mean that he plays far more at a level than his ability would warrant. A manager might have a lapse in judgement. Poor recruitment may lead to players being signed that arent up to it.

In Pears case, he was backup goalkeeper. We sold a considerably better keeper and messed up in signing a terrible replacement, thus almost by default, he became a Championship number 1. Almost certainly the worst in the division, and likely inferior to goalkeepers in the league below. So he is a Championship number 1 but not necessarily of the standard to be a number 1.

Other examples. Telalovic is crap for this level, clearly nowhere near level. Most of Rotherhams team last season was crap and nowhere near the standard. Jason Lowe and Hope Akpan played loads of games at this level for us, they were never good enough. The list goes on.

1 hour ago, RoversTilliDie said:

A lot of people blame Pears, but forget about our misfiring strikeforce that heaps pressure on defence and goalkeeper. His biggest clanger was against Sheffield wednsday, when he sliced the ball into his own goal. It was a dodgy backpass to him from hyam who was under pressure.

The mistake against Wednesday (it wasnt a dodgy backpass, there are no excuses) was so bad that it almost distracts from his general ability. As bad as it was, if it was somewhat of an anomaly, it could be written off. But he has made so many terrible mistakes across the course of the season, and he didnt even play every game.

Our issues arent solely Aynslea Pears, we certainly have other problematic areas where we need to improve. But he makes far, far too many unenforced mistakes well beyond the standard of what you would expect from a goalkeeper at this level.

Off the top of my head, he made 2 bad mistakes at Plymouth. He made a bad one at home to Ipswich. There was one at home to Hull where a basic positional error made it very easy for them to score a winner. He made a mess of the second at deepdale. He is not good enough, lets not make the Wednesday one to be anything other than one of many, and anything other than solely his fault.

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, M_B said:

Tomasson rated Pears over Kaminski, you might not agree, but there's nothing strange about it, it was just a manager choosing his favoured keeper. 

The first part of that statement is precisely why it was strange.

[ageoftherover]

16 hours ago, tomphil said:

Does he make them regularly though or has he shown he can grow out of them and is he world class otherwise ?

Difference with Pears is a lot of his are unforced and unexplainable and regular, in between hes had the odd good game but nothing you wouldn't expect of a pro keeper. 

It's years now since he threw it in the net away at Wigan but no one would bet against it happening again.

No, generally he's pretty stable and makes some great stops. He'd be a massive upgrade on Pears.

I'm just still a bit cut.

 

Edited June 12 by ageoftherover

[Upside Down]

54 minutes ago, ageoftherover said:

No, generally he's pretty stable and makes some great stops. He'd be a massive upgrade on Pears.

I'm just still a bit cut.

 

To be fair a sack of spuds would be better than Pears.

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The mistake against Wednesday (it wasnt a dodgy backpass, there are no excuses) was so bad that it almost distracts from his general ability. As bad as it was, if it was somewhat of an anomaly, it could be written off. But he has made so many terrible mistakes across the course of the season, and he didnt even play every game.

Our issues arent solely Aynslea Pears, we certainly have other problematic areas where we need to improve. But he makes far, far too many unenforced mistakes well beyond the standard of what you would expect from a goalkeeper at this level.

Off the top of my head, he made 2 bad mistakes at Plymouth. He made a bad one at home to Ipswich. There was one at home to Hull where a basic positional error made it very easy for them to score a winner. He made a mess of the second at deepdale. He is not good enough, lets not make the Wednesday one to be anything other than one of many, and anything other than solely his fault.

You focus on the mistakes every time but failed to mentioned his good quality saves tho like Leicester away in the final game

 

[Eddie]

17 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

You focus on the mistakes every time but failed to mentioned his good quality saves tho like Leicester away in the final game

 

He makes more mistakes than he makes good saves. His mistakes are also worse than his good saves are good.

[Fraserkirky]

Ellie Youan at hibs might be one to watch. Few championships clubs interested. 

[Upside Down]

3 hours ago, Eddie said:

He makes more mistakes than he makes good saves. His mistakes are also worse than his good saves are good.

Single handedly gave Sheffield Wednesday the win at Ewood. After that game I never want to see him play for us again.

[ABBEY]

Not looked but caddy, what's his boo boos and good saves ratio points wise

[roversfan99]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

You focus on the mistakes every time but failed to mentioned his good quality saves tho like Leicester away in the final game

 

Why do we need to sign a keeper so desperately then?

Its the quantity of mistakes that is far too high and makes him not up to standard. Hes not good enough to win points either with saves he shouldnt be making. He did make one good save at Leicester but otherwise a Leicester side coasting didnt test him too much.

All keepers make saves, the keys are quantity of mistakes and ability to earn points with saves beyond routine. He isnt good enough on either. You must agree hence wanting a new keeper.

[M_B]

14 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Why do we need to sign a keeper so desperately then?

Its the quantity of mistakes that is far too high and makes him not up to standard. Hes not good enough to win points either with saves he shouldnt be making. He did make one good save at Leicester but otherwise a Leicester side coasting didnt test him too much.

All keepers make saves, the keys are quantity of mistakes and ability to earn points with saves beyond routine. He isnt good enough on either. You must agree hence wanting a new keeper.

Are we desperately trying to sign a new keeper? 

[roversfan99]

15 minutes ago, M_B said:

Are we desperately trying to sign a new keeper? 

I dont know, that was referring to Chaddy saying (correctly most likely) that it along with a striker should be a priority.

If we are not though then there is something seriously wrong. Again.

[K-Hod]

Without going over his performances with a fine tooth comb, I reckon Pears costs us more points than he saves us on the whole.

Therefore, we need a better ‘keeper. It’s really not that complicated.

[Mattyblue]

‘If he’s crap he wouldn’t be at this level’

Aye, certainly no examples I can think of this club employing people out of their depth.

[chaddyrovers]

52 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Why do we need to sign a keeper so desperately then?

Its the quantity of mistakes that is far too high and makes him not up to standard. Hes not good enough to win points either with saves he shouldnt be making. He did make one good save at Leicester but otherwise a Leicester side coasting didnt test him too much.

All keepers make saves, the keys are quantity of mistakes and ability to earn points with saves beyond routine. He isnt good enough on either. You must agree hence wanting a new keeper.

Cos Wahlstedt is leaving but we need an experience keeper signing along with Pears fighting for that number 1 jersey. 

Pears is a decent keepers but makes some mistakes aswell as very good saves. 

[Mattyblue]

Weren’t you wanting a new keeper before the Leo rumours?

[tomphil]

8 hours ago, ageoftherover said:

No, generally he's pretty stable and makes some great stops. He'd be a massive upgrade on Pears.

I'm just still a bit cut.

 

Raya esqe he looks good as long as he can do the basics and they ALL make a balls up now and again the key is once or twice a season not once every 5 or 6 games !

[MarkBRFC]

Matt Ryan isn't happening in a million years.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

30 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Cos Wahlstedt is leaving but we need an experience keeper signing along with Pears fighting for that number 1 jersey. 

Pears is a decent keepers but makes some mistakes aswell as very good saves. 

Anybody who’s going to be fighting with Pears for the goalkeeping jersey isn’t going to be good enough.

[RoryRoversIreland]

6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

You focus on the mistakes every time but failed to mentioned his good quality saves tho like Leicester away in the final game

 

Surely making saves is his job. The one against Leicester is awesome and probably won us the game. But his mistakes are as common and at this level that can’t happen. It will infect the defense with uncertainty. No doubt Pears is a good lad, but I do not think he is a number one at this level. 
 

Keeper and Striker is an obvious requirement. But the priority now is Dolan, Gallagher and Siggy. All three need to be sold if they don’t sign a contract. Along with Sammie, it will require a new frontline. The season isn’t that far away. 

[Mercer]

45 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Cos Wahlstedt is leaving but we need an experience keeper signing along with Pears fighting for that number 1 jersey. 

Pears is a decent keepers but makes some mistakes aswell as very good saves. 

We simply need a goalie BETTER than Pears with no fight for jersey necessary.

Pears is at best a number 2 at this level.  He cost us so many goals and points far outweighing any good saves he may have made. 

I'll leave you with this thought - if Pears hadn't been so disastrous against SW, to name but one game, the Leicester match, where he made 'that save' you refer to, would have been academic.

You backed Pears against Kaminski which has proved totally absurd.  Time you became more objective and stopped constantly following the club line and discovered your 'on the road to Damascus' moment!

[chaddyrovers]

28 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Anybody who’s going to be fighting with Pears for the goalkeeping jersey isn’t going to be good enough.

Don't agree. No one is guarantee a starting place. Everyone is picked on form, ability and tactics for that game. 

 

[ABBEY]

Anyone better than pears is a guaranteed starter

[davulsukur]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Why do we need to sign a keeper so desperately then?

Its the quantity of mistakes that is far too high and makes him not up to standard. Hes not good enough to win points either with saves he shouldnt be making. He did make one good save at Leicester but otherwise a Leicester side coasting didnt test him too much.

All keepers make saves, the keys are quantity of mistakes and ability to earn points with saves beyond routine. He isnt good enough on either. You must agree hence wanting a new keeper.

Even if you overlook his major howlers, he's just a poor goalkeeper generally. Doesn't command his area or his defence, poor on Crosses, weak.

He'll have the odd good game, as do most footballers but they are one offs.

He's a reasonable shot stopper for the most part but he can even be really weak on those as well (see the Ipswich goal in the 0-1 defeat)

[roversfan99]

All keepers make mistakes and all keepers make mistakes. Its about the quantity.

Pears makes far too many mistakes and doesnt tend to win us points with saves he shouldnt be making.

Chaddy has tied himself in knots saying that a keeper was a priority signing prior to Wahlstedt rumours. Now there are rumours of John Ruddy, an experienced keeper but ultimately one past his best, thats what we need, because its believed to potentially be happening.

We need a number 1, Pears is not good enough, end of.