The Summer Transfer Window (Press Submit)

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, davulsukur said:

Leeds have rejected Brentfords opening bid. Imagine if they get £40m for Gray.

Good luck to them - they have until September to fix their financial issues.

We had about 5 days before we went bust in January.

If the FA had any competency they'd have forced the Venkys to sell years ago. How they pass a fit and proper owners check is beyond me. 

[RVRVRS]

2 hours ago, ABBEY said:

always the happy clappers pal ..

loud n clear .

when will this nightmare end . 

 

imagine all the happy clappers and venkapologists .. be like didn't like em me , the new owners are da bomb

Explain how am I a happy clapper? 
you know nothing about me or my background,  you don’t even know my stance on Venky’s. it’s people like you that are what’s wrong with forums like this. You poke to get reactions as you have an inadequate social circle ⭕️ so you hide behind words on forums. 

 

[tomphil]

19 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Good luck to them - they have until September to fix their financial issues.

We had about 5 days before we went bust in January.

If the FA had any competency they'd have forced the Venkys to sell years ago. How they pass a fit and proper owners check is beyond me. 

Easily because up until now they've funded losses using as far as we can see company profit and not debt against the club.

That's all Fit & Proper are bothered about.

[tomphil]

1 minute ago, RVRVRS said:

Explain how am I a happy clapper? 
you know nothing about me or my background,  you don’t even know my stance on Venky’s. it’s people like you that are what’s wrong with forums like this. You poke to get reactions as you have an inadequate social circle ⭕️ so you hide behind words on forums. 

 

I'd say he's probably the last person on here who has inadequate social circles, you seem to be casting aspersions after accusing the same thing.

That is the problem with forums.

[RVRVRS]

3 hours ago, MarkBRFC said:

Only when it comes to venkys rovers because I have lived through 14 years of this utter bullshit.

I get the discontent, we have declined massively under their stewardship and I want them out as much as the rest, but we need to be realistic.

if they pull the plug and sell, 100% Administrator will be in

if we spend like all the fans want us to, we will also fold.

some of the blame has to go to the stay away fans. And people moaning about ST prices, they all want cheaper prices, that’s fine but expect a cheaper playing squad and lower standard of player. All I hear on here is moaning.

lower attendances means less revenue, if we have 25/30k we would be able to spend more and attract better talent. Not many good players want to play in a ground that’s a 1/3 full.

we are in a dire position and I don’t think they how to get out of it.

This is my last post as I’m tired of it all. If you want more money to spend, put your god damn hand in your pocket and support your club !!!!!

[USABlue]

15 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

Explain how am I a happy clapper? 
you know nothing about me or my background,  you don’t even know my stance on Venky’s. it’s people like you that are what’s wrong with forums like this. You poke to get reactions as you have an inadequate social circle ⭕️ so you hide behind words on forums. 

 

Funniest post on here in a long while.  Abby? kin hell mark my words Abster will not hide. Heh heh.  Knowin Abby he meant nothin by it.  Just goin off the quoted bit.  

Anyway, transfers?

Edited Sunday at 13:00 by USABlue

[tomphil]

2 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

I get the discontent, we have declined massively under their stewardship and I want them out as much as the rest, but we need to be realistic.

if they pull the plug and sell, 100% Administrator will be in

if we spend like all the fans want us to, we will also fold.

some of the blame has to go to the stay away fans. And people moaning about ST prices, they all want cheaper prices, that’s fine but expect a cheaper playing squad and lower standard of player. All I hear on here is moaning.

lower attendances means less revenue, if we have 25/30k we would be able to spend more and attract better talent. Not many good players want to play in a ground that’s a 1/3 full.

we are in a dire position and I don’t think they how to get out of it.

This is my last post as I’m tired of it all. If you want more money to spend, put your god damn hand in your pocket and support your club !!!!!

When is a club the size of ours getting 25k in the mid/lower second tier after 14 years of nonsense and water treading ?

Why isn't every city club in this lge who get 25k + NOT contesting the top 2 spots every season ?????

People like you are deluded stop talking out of your backside and admit for once it's how the club is run and stop blaming the non existent 10k stay aways.

[RVRVRS]

1 minute ago, tomphil said:

When is a club the size of ours getting 25k in the mid/lower second tier after 14 years of nonsense and water treading ?

Why isn't every city club in this lge who get 25k + NOT contesting the top 2 spots every season ?????

People like you are deluded stop talking out of your backside and admit for once it's how the club is run and stop blaming the non existent 10k stay aways.

Funny

[Exiled_Rover]

Just now, tomphil said:

When is a club the size of ours getting 25k in the mid/lower second tier after 14 years of nonsense and water treading ?

Why isn't every city club in this lge who get 25k + NOT contesting the top 2 spots every season ?????

People like you are deluded stop talking out of your backside and admit for once it's how the club is run and stop blaming the non existent 10k stay aways.

There's a massive appetite for football in the region - you can see that just from the discounted ticket / family / Trust days.

The problem is that the club is run by absolute clowns so there's nothing of substance to hang your support on. 

[tomphil]

4 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

Funny

Factual and if you can't accept reality you need to have a rethink.

[rigger]

3 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

Funny

I thought you said in an earlier post, that it was going to be your last post, you little fibber.

[Exiled_Rover]

7 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

This is my last post as I’m tired of it all. If you want more money to spend, put your god damn hand in your pocket and support your club !!!!!

Or perhaps they should employ professionals to run the club competently. 

Fans would be willing to put their hands in their pockets and support the club in numbers if we simply looked like we had a coherent plan. 

Handing out contracts to a 37 year old Downing (who hadn't had a pre-season and looked sluggish the previous year) or a crocked Fleck reeks of panic.

Letting Brereton, Lenihan, Rothwell et al leave for nothing then lamenting that there's a hole in the budget is comical. 

That's not even mentioning them repeatedly dragging our name through the mud with the O'Brien, Brierly and McGuire transfer debacles (and the many like Caulker which are usually swept under the rug). 

This is not a club to be proud of and hasn't been for 14 years. 

 

[arbitro]

14 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

I get the discontent, we have declined massively under their stewardship and I want them out as much as the rest, but we need to be realistic.

if they pull the plug and sell, 100% Administrator will be in

if we spend like all the fans want us to, we will also fold.

some of the blame has to go to the stay away fans. And people moaning about ST prices, they all want cheaper prices, that’s fine but expect a cheaper playing squad and lower standard of player. All I hear on here is moaning.

lower attendances means less revenue, if we have 25/30k we would be able to spend more and attract better talent. Not many good players want to play in a ground that’s a 1/3 full.

we are in a dire position and I don’t think they how to get out of it.

This is my last post as I’m tired of it all. If you want more money to spend, put your god damn hand in your pocket and support your club !!!!!

It's a really cheap shot to blame the fans after fourteen years of mismanagement, downgrade and ignorance. The blame lies solely with the owners, to blame anything else is nonsense.

[Ghost7]

4 minutes ago, arbitro said:

It's a really cheap shot to blame the fans after fourteen years of mismanagement, downgrade and ignorance. The blame lies solely with the owners, to blame anything else is nonsense.

It’s complete and utter nonsense too.

A football club is a business, with paying customers. You have to run it properly to keep the business.

Hardly rocket science, however it is a lot more difficult when you’re 5,000 miles away and not that good at it. 

[simongarnerisgod]

27 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

I get the discontent, we have declined massively under their stewardship and I want them out as much as the rest, but we need to be realistic.

if they pull the plug and sell, 100% Administrator will be in

if we spend like all the fans want us to, we will also fold.

some of the blame has to go to the stay away fans. And people moaning about ST prices, they all want cheaper prices, that’s fine but expect a cheaper playing squad and lower standard of player. All I hear on here is moaning.

lower attendances means less revenue, if we have 25/30k we would be able to spend more and attract better talent. Not many good players want to play in a ground that’s a 1/3 full.

we are in a dire position and I don’t think they how to get out of it.

This is my last post as I’m tired of it all. If you want more money to spend, put your god damn hand in your pocket and support your club !!!!!

have you been drafted in from the let (lancashire telegraph) maybe you are "reg of the rovers" come to educate us all

[Crimpshrine]

26 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

 

if they pull the plug and sell, 100% Administrator will be in

if we spend like all the fans want us to, we will also fold.

some of the blame has to go to the stay away fans

 

Why would we go into admin if the club is sold ?

We are in a great position to spend with respect to FFP - why would the club fold if we spend ?

The trouble is the owners won't sell and won't ( or can't )  spend when they have the option to do either.

NEVER blame the fans.

[Ghost7]

15 hours ago, savage90 said:

Here’s your transfer budget   

Embarrassing. 

[JHRover]

29 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

 

if they pull the plug and sell, 100% Administrator will be in

if we spend like all the fans want us to, we will also fold.

You don't know that. Nobody does. It could happen, more likely however we find a better owner who runs the club properly or sells it on again in a few years if they've run out of money.

That's what has happened at every other club in the country, of which there are dozens, that have had a change of ownership in the last decade.

They're all still in existence and the majority have had good times at some stage or another under those new owners.

I'm still waiting for our good times under these owners 14 years in. These people and success in football are incompatible. That's their choice because of the way they elect to operate.

Absolutely nothing to do with FFP or attendances or negative fans. They'd do it exactly the same if 50,000 a week put up with their nonsense. They have nothing but contempt for the club they own, evidenced by not visiting once in a decade, so whatever the fans are thinking and saying they won't see or hear anyways.

So yeah, we need shut of this lot and until we do at best we are treading water as the years roll by and the impact becomes harder to recover from.

[tomphil]

28 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

There's a massive appetite for football in the region - you can see that just from the discounted ticket / family / Trust days.

The problem is that the club is run by absolute clowns so there's nothing of substance to hang your support on. 

What these 'blame the fans' cult need to grasp is IF we got 20k every week (which we never would and never have at this level  now) it wouldn't make a jot of difference. We've seen enough evidence of that all it would mean is maybe a slightly bigger budget spewed on more execs, backroom staff etc and wasteful contracts alongside meaning similar loses and owners needing to put less in.

So it might help them but not us.

It's genuinely hilarious that there are those out there who think it would solve everything because it wouldn't touch the sides. The whole idea of having wealthy ownership is to help a smaller town club compete with bigger city rivals. FFP works against that now but the main problem has always been how those owners run the club and what their real ambition and intentions are.

A few thousand extra in the stands cannot alter that one jot at this club but blaming the fans amongst our lot is like blaming the car exhaust every time it rains or boils.... it's fake news.

Edited Sunday at 13:35 by tomphil

[B16Rover]

How deep in my pocket do I have to dig for us to be rid of this lot?  Willing to sacrifice my takeaway coffee and avocado toast 

[Mercer]

37 minutes ago, RVRVRS said:

if they pull the plug and sell, 100% Administrator will be in

Your statement lacks clarity.

If they 'pull the plug', and by that I assume they stop funding, then yes, administration will be virtually inevitable.

If they hope to sell then administration would only happen if the new owner was not adequately funded (insufficient working capital).

IMO, the club is not saleable.  The best the V's could hope to achieve is to hand the club over to new owners for nothing other than  perhaps a deferred purchase consideration (contingent upon say Rovers reaching the PL within a specified time frame) and to walk away with no further liability.

I would think any new buyer taking on Rovers as I've outlined would need some £60million of working capital.  Turning the club around will be an enormous challenge and would take quite some time.

[ABBEY]

1 hour ago, RVRVRS said:

Explain how am I a happy clapper? 
you know nothing about me or my background,  you don’t even know my stance on Venky’s. it’s people like you that are what’s wrong with forums like this. You poke to get reactions as you have an inadequate social circle ⭕️ so you hide behind words on forums. 

 

aye ..you know

[Exiled_Rover]

Just now, Mercer said:

Your statement lacks clarity.

If they 'pull the plug', and by that I assume they stop funding, then yes, administration will be virtually inevitable.

If they hope to sell then administration would only happen if the new owner was not adequately funded (insufficient working capital).

IMO, the club is not saleable.  The best the V's could hope to achieve is to hand the club over to new owners for nothing other than  perhaps a deferred purchase consideration (contingent upon say Rovers reaching the PL within a specified time frame) and to walk away with no further liability.

I would think any new buyer taking on Rovers as I've outlined would need some £60million of working capital.  Turning the club around will be an enormous challenge and would take quite some time.

They've already stopped funding us.

[ABBEY]

57 minutes ago, USABlue said:

Funniest post on here in a long while.  Abby? kin hell mark my words Abster will not hide. Heh heh.  Knowin Abby he meant nothin by it.  Just goin off the quoted bit.  

Anyway, 

True.. hiding is one thing I don't think I've ever been accused of .

[K-Hod]

1 hour ago, RVRVRS said:

I get the discontent, we have declined massively under their stewardship and I want them out as much as the rest, but we need to be realistic.

if they pull the plug and sell, 100% Administrator will be in

if we spend like all the fans want us to, we will also fold.

some of the blame has to go to the stay away fans. And people moaning about ST prices, they all want cheaper prices, that’s fine but expect a cheaper playing squad and lower standard of player. All I hear on here is moaning.

lower attendances means less revenue, if we have 25/30k we would be able to spend more and attract better talent. Not many good players want to play in a ground that’s a 1/3 full.

we are in a dire position and I don’t think they how to get out of it.

This is my last post as I’m tired of it all. If you want more money to spend, put your god damn hand in your pocket and support your club !!!!!

Why can’t Venky’s put their hands in their pockets and fund the club with transfer fees, with the money they’ve recouped from sales?

How is this the fault of the fans?