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[J*B]

15 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Must have hated the Sammie signing when we brought him in..

Sammie was signed with Championship experience and a standout player in League One. His credibility in British football compared to these two is on a totally different level. 

[roversfan99]

Why are we signing Batth AND McFadzean? A season of defending on our 18 yard box?

[Iceman]

Just now, J*B said:

Sammie was signed with Championship experience and a standout player in League One. His credibility in British football compared to these two is on a totally different level. 

Doesn't matter. There were no guarantees, that he would do well here. Plenty of footballers have done well in a league, changed clubs, and flopped.  You still dependant on the players around you, or the system being used by different managers etc 

[tomphil]

6 minutes ago, Iceman said:

You can't develop young players, in the way the club hopes to, when the overall squad isnt performing at a high level. It's kind of silly, to say to a young player, go out there and take this team to the next level. 

There has to be a balance, and the club needs to get that balance right first. 

And i think a big part of the problem was they went all in on youth too quickly in an attempt to cut costs because of the finance issues.

A model was brought in that had 30% of the first team squad as youth and young loans on top of that so it's a massive risk, too much too soon.  Add to that all the back up players to develop Broughton brought in were totally useless and between them made no contribution whatsoever last season.

So no surprise we ended up in the mess we did and such a naive position to throw ourselves into by Waghail, no wonder either that Broughton was potted.

Edited July 31 by tomphil

[sharpysharps86]

Just now, roversfan99 said:

Why are we signing Batth AND McFadzean? A season of defending on our 18 yard box?

Probably because Wharton is injured long term and O' Riordan is untested at Championship level, leaving us with just Hyam and Carter at the moment as the clubs only proven championship CB's.

 

[Guest]

18 minutes ago, TruRover said:

Topi Keskinen has followed us on instagram… not sure if that means anything.

Given that we reportedly bid for Keskinen in January, he's likely a find by by the previous recruitment team and Broughton... Whom we've since binned off en masse.

Keskinen is now linked with Middlesbrough and Sunderland. I suspect he's no longer on our radar, and the nature of us expunging Broughton and his recruiters, along with a couple of our failed signings in Telalović and Wahlstedt, suggests to me that the club want to wipe that bit of history clean. I can't see us going down their path given that the recruitment record was, in my view, pretty poor overall.

Edited July 31 by goozburger

[Rover8T4]

5 minutes ago, Eddie said:

It may partially be in jest, but it's a valid point.

We don't complain about the system when we benefit from it. 

We have gained players and lost players like this. Difference is the way it's done. Very disrespectful and his leaving statement backed it up 100%

[J*B]

2 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Doesn't matter. There were no guarantees, that he would do well here. Plenty of footballers have done well in a league, changed clubs, and flopped.  You still dependant on the players around you, or the system being used by different managers etc 

There’s no gaurentees in life but if you can’t recognise Szmodics was a significantly smaller gamble that Gueye and Ohashi then were just not going to find middle ground here sadly. 

[Iceman]

1 minute ago, Rover8T4 said:

We have gained players and lost players like this. Difference is the way it's done. Very disrespectful and his leaving statement backed it up 100%

Didn't Connor Mahoney leave In similar circumstances? 

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Probably because Wharton is injured long term and O' Riordan is untested at Championship level, leaving us with just Hyam and Carter at the moment as the clubs only proven championship CB's.

 

I dont doubt that we need 2 centre backs. But we need at least one left sided one and not 2 past their best who are very slow.

Both or at least McFadzean would only be possible in a 3, we dont have a left sided one to play that effectively and you wouldnt want both Batth and McFadzean in the same team.

[Iceman]

Just now, J*B said:

There’s no gaurentees in life but if you can’t recognise Szmodics was a significantly smaller gamble that Gueye and Ohashi then were just not going to find middle ground here sadly. 

I don't disagree with that, but I'm saying that any player that signs, whether it's from a top league, or not, there is still a chance they turn out badly or they do well.. one player might fit the system better, another not that well..

When the season comes, we can re visit this discussion, as to whether it was a failure or not. 

[tomphil]

4 minutes ago, J*B said:

Sammie was signed with Championship experience and a standout player in League One. His credibility in British football compared to these two is on a totally different level. 

No success of a player is guaranteed but you give yourself the best possible chances when paying money for lads with at least a bit of pedigree and rep for being the best in their position at their club and in their league.

See Szmods, see Dack, see AA when at Coventry etc but you simply have to pay for them which is something this lot now seem incapable of doing despite the proven success rate.

These lads we are signing now are complete and utter shots in the dark who need to adjust to new country, culture, weather, time before they even start on the football.

Anyone in denail to all that needs to have a rethink.

[Gamst]

Does anyone know what the situation with Mafoumbi was at Nantes? His goal scoring record in youth football is impressive. Did they want to retain him? Do the fans rate him? An interesting signing and hopefully a gem uncovered! 

[M_B]

54 minutes ago, Iceman said:

Maybe these signings, might convince Sammie to stay one more season, and then see how it goes.. If we don't need to sell him, then maybe we just keep him. 

You never know.i know it's wishful thinking but if Rovers were taking this long over  buying someone, we'd be wondering if it would ever happen. 🤞

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, Gamst said:

Does anyone know what the situation with Mafoumbi was at Nantes? His goal scoring record in youth football is impressive. Did they want to retain him? Do the fans rate him? An interesting signing and hopefully a gem uncovered! 

He turned down Nantes contract offer to move to England. presumably in order to put himself in the shop window for a Prem move, even via playing vs Prem U21 teams

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24476299.blackburn-rovers-complete-deal-academy-talent/#:~:text=The 19-year-old will,21s for the upcoming season.

French outlet L'Equipe first reported Rovers' interest over the weekend and it's understood that is accurate. The 19-year-old will complete a move to Ewood Park, which is thought to be at an advanced stage.

Nantes offered Mafoumbi his first professional contract but he has turned it down in favour of a move to England. It's expected he will link up with Mike Sheron's Under-21s for the upcoming season.

[BankEnd Rover]

Gent to Barnsley on loan? Would be a great loan for him, if it’s true.

Edited July 31 by BankEnd Rover

[RoversClitheroe]

2 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Gent to Barnsley on loan? Would be a great loan for him, if it’s true.

Awful decision, play him ahead of that Pickering bloke.

[roversfan99]

Pickering is a solid player, reads the game well, rarely lets you down.

Gent is still an unknown, and apparently not a left back, more of a wing back.

We do still need a left back and left sided centre back amongst a lot of other things.

[Gamst]

2 minutes ago, KentExile said:

He turned down Nantes contract offer to move to England. presumably in order to put himself in the shop window for a Prem move, even via playing vs Prem U21 teams

https://www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/sport/24476299.blackburn-rovers-complete-deal-academy-talent/#:~:text=The 19-year-old will,21s for the upcoming season.

French outlet L'Equipe first reported Rovers' interest over the weekend and it's understood that is accurate. The 19-year-old will complete a move to Ewood Park, which is thought to be at an advanced stage.

Nantes offered Mafoumbi his first professional contract but he has turned it down in favour of a move to England. It's expected he will link up with Mike Sheron's Under-21s for the upcoming season.

Thanks for that! Interesting choice from the player as Nantes have a good academy I believe. Hope it works out! 

[Rover8T4]

4 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Gent to Barnsley on loan? Would be a great loan for him, if it’s true.

Suggests a LB is coming in

[KentExile]

4 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Gent to Barnsley on loan? Would be a great loan for him, if it’s true.

Where is that from?

[roversinmyblood]

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

No we need 5 centre backs cos we will play 5 at the backs in some games 

3 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Correct

But neither of them are left footed, surely we need at least one left footed CB!

[BG1492]

Barnsley have been after Gent all summer, even making a permanent enquiry & that’s from the player himself. A loan seems to suit all parties.

[MarkBRFC]

7 minutes ago, Rover8T4 said:

Suggests a LB is coming in

Winger I would say.

Gent has played all pre season as a left winger.

[MarkBRFC]

1 minute ago, BG1492 said:

Barnsley have been after Gent all summer, even making a permanent enquiry & that’s from the player himself. A loan seems to suit all parties.

Out of contract next summer, if we had anything about us we would be getting that extended before allowing him out on loan, he'll be on an academy wage at best.

Edited July 31 by MarkBRFC