The Summer Transfer Window (Press Submit)

[Forever Blue]

55 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

How many of them actually improved the team Paul ? 

That was the problem.  No point signing 7 squad fillers who don’t improve  the first team. 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

That was the problem.  No point signing 7 squad fillers who don’t improve  the first team. 

There's definitely value in signing Championship calibre players that can sit on your bench - we lacked even those last year.

With money so tight though, you'd much rather focus on signing players that would improve the First XI, bumping our current starters to the bench. 

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

I think one of the players said that Eustace puts a lot of emphasis on keeping clean sheets. We won’t need to score many to get results. It won’t be pretty under Eustace if the last few months are anything to go by, but it might be effective. 

Effective? It was enough to get the job done, but purely because of the surplus points we had built up already. Under Eustace it was relegation form, and more of the same without a better squad will see us relegated.

[Forever Blue]

6 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Effective? It was enough to get the job done, but purely because of the surplus points we had built up already. Under Eustace it was relegation form, and more of the same without a better squad will see us relegated.

I’m saying it might be effective in the future, not that it has been effective thus far. 

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, Norbert Rassragr said:

I know, there's optimism but this is madness.

Madness? This. Is. CHADDY!

[K-Hod]

2 hours ago, Paul Mani said:

Weird point though, considering we signed 7 players last summer and 6 the year before though mate.

Completely understand if you were questioning us spending the £7-10m we need to get us back on track. There’s absolutely no evidence in previous behaviour that this is likely.

I’d suggest we’d be odds on to sign between 5-8 players, based on recent history.

I’ve probably not made my point very well, or clearly here. So my apologies for that!

But, ultimately, what I’m saying, is that I don’t think we will sign the players we need, because of Venky’s.

We don’t and won’t prosper until they clear off.

[jones_rover]

I wonder if Eustace will be interested in any of the Brum players, having been their manager less than 12 months ago?

Do any of them fit the bill for what we need?

[TheRevAshton]

29 minutes ago, jones_rover said:

I wonder if Eustace will be interested in any of the Brum players, having been their manager less than 12 months ago?

Do any of them fit the bill for what we need?

Oh he definitely will, and some of them certainly fit the bill for what we need... but not the ones he'll be going for, sadly.

Whilst i'd welcome the likes of Miyoshi, Dembele, James, Bacuna and Laird with open arms... it's more likely the case that he'll be looking to recruit players like Jutkiewicz, Pritchard, and of course Ruddy.

[davulsukur]

39 minutes ago, jones_rover said:

I wonder if Eustace will be interested in any of the Brum players, having been their manager less than 12 months ago?

Do any of them fit the bill for what we need?

I expect Birmingham will be his first port of call. However, any decent ones will command a higher fee than we have monies available, so it will be any players League 1 Birmingham don't want/release.

[Exiled_Rover]

12 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

I expect Birmingham will be his first port of call. However, any decent ones will command a higher fee than we have monies available, so it will be any players League 1 Birmingham don't want/release.

I imagine quite a few of them won't want to play in League 1 so will kick up a fuss.

[bluebruce]

34 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I imagine quite a few of them won't want to play in League 1 so will kick up a fuss.

Bacuna for one is a class player, no way he's playing League 1 next season. But class players are out of our financial reach. You're right, plenty of them will want to leave, but davul is right - we will get the dregs.

[davulsukur]

51 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I imagine quite a few of them won't want to play in League 1 so will kick up a fuss.

They won't want to play in league 1 but Birmingham will still want good money for them. 

Not sure on the financial situation at Birmingham (historically has always been a mess?), but if they are under no pressure, they'll get closer to market value which will rule us out immediately.

If they have a fire sale, the players will have better options than Rovers in the championship.

Edited May 15 by davulsukur

[Dreams of 1995]

7 hours ago, Upside Down said:

This guy really needs to learn to just keep his mouth shut. We already know he's just another yes man plodder, there's no need to keep announcing it to the world.

To be brutally honest, you could take your own advice

"We" don't already know anything. It is you and a handful - literally, a handful - of posters who parrot this yes man plodder Steve Kean nonsense

The rest of us can see him for what he is. A coach who is operating with his hands tied behind his back

[Dreams of 1995]

1 hour ago, jones_rover said:

I wonder if Eustace will be interested in any of the Brum players, having been their manager less than 12 months ago?

Do any of them fit the bill for what we need?

It wouldn't surprise me to see a move for Dembele or Bacuna. Think they will be out of our price range

The way JE wants to play, the players that will come in will be wide and quick. The issue is going to be whether he will get the money he needs for these players to be of the standard we require

[Eddie]

8 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

The rest of us can see him for what he is. A coach who is operating with his hands tied behind his back

If he is then he has the choice of either speaking up about it or walking away.

He'll get little sympathy for me for taking a job and lowering expectations through the public messages that he sends out.

There was a stark contrast in the aftermath of the final day between the messaging from Eustace versus the messaging from some players.

There were players stating that it was good to survive, but we shouldn't have been there in the first place. Then there was Eustace saying that it was cause for celebration and making it out that he'd pulled off the great escape.

 

[Polky]

I’m sorry to inform all the Clarke-Harris enthusiasts, but he’s signed for Rotherham.

[Dreams of 1995]

1 minute ago, Eddie said:

If he is then he has the choice of either speaking up about it or walking away.

He'll get little sympathy for me for taking a job and lowering expectations through the public messages that he sends out.

There was a stark contrast in the aftermath of the final day between the messaging from Eustace versus the messaging from some players.

There were players stating that it was good to survive, but we shouldn't have been there in the first place. Then there was Eustace saying that it was cause for celebration and making it out that he'd pulled off the great escape.

I don't know why certain football fans seem to have the mentality that staff should surrender their contracted work because of their own thoughts

I hate McDonalds. Think they are a scumbag company. But do I think that everyone who works for McDonalds should walk away or protest against them? No

I've not been a fan of the way John has gone about some of his interviews. But I also understand he has a job to do and a salary to maintain. I don't think he should have to surrender that because we are at odds with how the club is run. The lowering of the expectations has already been done. Steve Waggott did that last summer. When John got the job, his sole responsibility was to ensure survival. So he completed that objective. In that respect, he had something to celebrate, whereas the likes of Carter etc were here before, when the expectation was to achieve play offs. John knows nothing of that. If he came here and started banging the same drum JDT had then he would have lasted all of 5 minutes and found himself not only out of work, but also with a reputation that club owners / directors cannot trust

[Eddie]

4 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

I don't know why certain football fans seem to have the mentality that staff should surrender their contracted work because of their own thoughts

I hate McDonalds. Think they are a scumbag company. But do I think that everyone who works for McDonalds should walk away or protest against them? No

I've not been a fan of the way John has gone about some of his interviews. But I also understand he has a job to do and a salary to maintain. I don't think he should have to surrender that because we are at odds with how the club is run. The lowering of the expectations has already been done. Steve Waggott did that last summer. When John got the job, his sole responsibility was to ensure survival. So he completed that objective. In that respect, he had something to celebrate, whereas the likes of Carter etc were here before, when the expectation was to achieve play offs. John knows nothing of that. If he came here and started banging the same drum JDT had then he would have lasted all of 5 minutes and found himself not only out of work, but also with a reputation that club owners / directors cannot trust

Didn't realise you were on first name terms with him.

All I'll say is this, keep defending the messaging and you'll soon need to change from 'Dreams of 1995' to 'Dreams of 2011'.

There are few things more dangerous for a company, a club, or a person than consistently lowering their expectations. I don't expect him to give up his job, but I do expect him to take on a role with ambition and a desire to actually succeed, not simply maintain a salary.

[Dreams of 1995]

1 minute ago, Eddie said:

Didn't realise you were on first name terms with him.

All I'll say is this, keep defending the messaging and you'll soon need to change from 'Dreams of 1995' to 'Dreams of 2011'.

There are few things more dangerous for a company, a club, or a person than consistently lowering their expectations. I don't expect him to give up his job, but I do expect him to take on a role with ambition and a desire to actually succeed, not simply maintain a salary.

You aren't to realise. You don't know me after all

I really don't know what you mean by the second bit. Don't think I am defending the messaging. Pretty irrelevant

In any company the expectations are set out by those at the top. The expectation of BRFC is to maintain Championship status. It has been that way since we were relegated, hence why whenever we get in promotion contention there is no desire from board level to push on. If you can't see that by now, then you never will. You can disagree with those objectives but you are firing at the wrong man if you are blaming Mr. Eustace, if that names suits you more

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, Eddie said:

Didn't realise you were on first name terms with him.

All I'll say is this, keep defending the messaging and you'll soon need to change from 'Dreams of 1995' to 'Dreams of 2011'.

There are few things more dangerous for a company, a club, or a person than consistently lowering their expectations. I don't expect him to give up his job, but I do expect him to take on a role with ambition and a desire to actually succeed, not simply maintain a salary.

You’re talking like Blackburn Rovers are a normal football club - we aren’t and we haven’t been for 15 years. The owners couldn’t care less about your expections, or mine for that matter.

[ABBEY]

7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

I reckon we will get 7 or 8 players in this summer. 

If you don't fine no problem 

What standard? 

[ABBEY]

7 hours ago, ABRAM ROVER said:

He's hardly going to come out and say everyone is sh*t we need a complete squad overhaul, 10-15 players because the rest aren't good enough and we are going to spend quite a bit of money this summer on a new team. 

He should tho .

[ABBEY]

6 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

We made 7 summer signings and 6 January signings last season. 

Eustace isn't going to go out tell everyone we want how many signings or how much we got. He is very cagey with the media and keep himself level headed every media interview 

How did that work out

[bluebruce]

11 minutes ago, ABBEY said:

He should tho .

Why though? We aren't 'going to spend quite a bit of money this summer on a new team', and we certainly aren't bringing in 10-15 players, we know that. So the net result of saying all that would be: a fanbase who feel cheated again by more lies and falsely raised expectations, a pissed off board and owners for claiming there'll be loads spent, and a demoralised team who know the manager (who isn't exactly Klopp himself) doesn't rate any of them, but they still need to play for us. Cue some truly shit results and him getting himself the sack. So why should he do that?

I get that it's what he 'should' be saying because it's true, except for the spending part, but naivety doesn't help anybody. Even if we somehow did have a pretty big budget, banging on about it and saying we'll be replacing our whole team would see clubs raise their prices on us.

[Ewood Ace]

Eustace is just doing the bidding of his master who said that the ambition was to stay in the league and that will be the extent of the ambition from Eustace. He is just Waggott's puppet.