The Summer Transfer Window (Press Submit)

[Mike E]

7 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

I hate to say it, because I want us to spend some money too…but why do people keep going on and on about us ‘banking £41m?”

The owners are £200m in, so it’s like having £2k on your credit card, paying £400 off and suddenly thinking you’re flush! 🤦🏽‍♂️🤣

This is the type of logic my wife would apply!

Well no, it’s like your wife losing £200/year for ten years, winning £400 on the lottery. You want to spend £100 on some new clothes instead of kidding yourself you can squeeze into medium-size jeans, but wife insists on keeping it in the bank so that she can ‘cancel out’ the £200/year she intends to lose for the next two years.

[SuperBrfc]

20 minutes ago, MB Rover said:

£41 million banked, what feels like 41 back room staff changes, and the best they can come up with for left back cover after 3 fucking months is a Liverpool loanee. 

I'm not advocating it, but if a club in Italy or France had made this move after clawing in all that money, their fans would be storming the training ground tomorrow looking for answers.

It sounds extreme but scrambling for loans despite outgoings shows the extent of what intent there is at the top. Zero, despite the best efforts of Park, Rudy and Eustace to improve the squad. All we're hearing right now is 'loan to buy', 'looking to loan', 'loan'.

All summer it has been said on here by various posters that 'we'll be getting a kid on loan from Liverpool' and here we are. £30m and you're bringing a cheap loan in and hoping the weight of his parent club makes him look a smart move. Have some shame. They have already wiped out Clarkson and Koumetio from their memory banks, it would seem.

Harvey Elliott was a one off gem, the rest of these Liverpool kids can stay where they are, imo. This is Blackburn Rovers, a club that used to regularly trouble Liverpool in the Premier League. We aren't a flaming creche for their youth development.

F"(& off Waggott and the rest.

Edited August 26 by SuperBrfc

[Paul Mani]

2 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Well no, it’s like your wife losing £200/year for ten years, winning £400 on the lottery. You want to spend £100 on some new clothes instead of kidding yourself you can squeeze into medium-size jeans, but wife insists on keeping it in the bank so that she can ‘cancel out’ the £200/year she intends to lose for the next two years.

Hmm…I don’t think you can say we “won it” bearing in mind we’ve had to sell our Crown Jewels to generate the £400. Either way, you’re still £2k in a hole, and kicking off because you can’t spunk it away on some new jeans!

My point is, we’re (the club) is not £41m up, it’s £160m down.

By choice, I’d still like the jeans, btw…👍🏼🙏🏽

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Pickering.

I genuinely wonder how they manage this.

Celtic were interested in Beck, apparently, and a fee of £3m was quoted. If Beck proves to be better than Pickering (you're not getting £3m for him), does Eustace drop Harry? He appears to be one of the first names on the team sheet and is no doubt an established character in the dressing room. 

If nothing else the lad has pace, which we've been absolutely crying out for. I don't hate this loan at all, but Batty needs to go and play Mens football for the season now at a club that is going to start him week-in, week-out (whatever level that may be).

[jny]

16 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

My point is, we’re (the club) is not £41m up, it’s £160m down.

And will never get out of that debt unless there is INVESTMENT to generate/sell assets.

This is the fucking obvioushood that those in Pune and their stooges over here seem to be wilfully and bemusingly ignorant of.

Edited August 26 by jny

[Fraserkirky]

Beck will have Pickerings jersey off him soon enough. Good signing, sensible signing, watched him a fair bit last year at Dundee. 
I think the keeper signing is the most important Travers or Iverson on a Permanent

Cantwell would be great. We need someone like him, both he and Beck can take a decent set piece too. 
Yeboah is my favorite linked winger, but Poku, Dembele too.

Hall a replacement for Buckley. 

They better spend some money
 

[Eddie]

If all of our remaining transfers are loans then there is an issue, but there's nothing wrong with a loan signing.

The goal should be to get in 3/4 loan signings every year. It's a cheaper way for us to fill out our squad. Most will have no impact, but the odd one does. 

Signing a player on loan shouldn't be causing this level of outrage. 

[RevidgeBlue]

For me we need players who are going to improve the starting X1 and we don't need cover at LB, we need a new LB!

So if the lad from Liverpool is a significant upgrade on Pickering and is coming in as first choice to replace him then fair enough. If not and he's merely coming in to sit on the bench and pad out the squad then I absolutely despair. Someone from our own Academy should be doing that, we're allegedly completely brassic yet we'd be prepared to pay Liverpool to take a young lad off them not to play.

The link to Cantwell seems odd in so far as we were very heavily linked with him in the early part of last summer's transfer window. New Head Coach, new recruitment team, do they not have any targets of their own?

As for whether he's any good now, I've no idea but his career does seem to have stalled badly recently so it's probably a deal to be approached with extreme caution.

[RevidgeBlue]

9 minutes ago, Eddie said:

If all of our remaining transfers are loans then there is an issue, but there's nothing wrong with a loan signing.

The goal should be to get in 3/4 loan signings every year. It's a cheaper way for us to fill out our squad. Most will have no impact, but the odd one does. 

Signing a player on loan shouldn't be causing this level of outrage. 

If most will have no impact - then we shouldn't be signing them!

[USABlue]

19 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

If most will have no impact - then we shouldn't be signing them!

Has the scouse kid signed?  Is it actually done?

[BRFC4EVA]

2 hours ago, jny said:

And will never get out of that debt unless there is INVESTMENT to generate/sell assets.

This is the fucking obvioushood that those in Pune and their stooges over here seem to be wilfully and bemusingly ignorant of.

100% agree. And this is exactly what I have tried to explain to the apologists on Facebook. You need to invest money to make money. Otherwise you're just selling the crown jewels until there is noone left. Yes you will do the odd miracle and invest 500k on someone and they'll turn into a 15m man. However it is far more likely if you're spending 1.5 to 3m ala SS, Armstrong etc.

[Beanie01289]

35 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

For me we need players who are going to improve the starting X1 and we don't need cover at LB, we need a new LB!

So if the lad from Liverpool is a significant upgrade on Pickering and is coming in as first choice to replace him then fair enough. If not and he's merely coming in to sit on the bench and pad out the squad then I absolutely despair. Someone from our own Academy should be doing that, we're allegedly completely brassic yet we'd be prepared to pay Liverpool to take a young lad off them not to play.

The link to Cantwell seems odd in so far as we were very heavily linked with him in the early part of last summer's transfer window. New Head Coach, new recruitment team, do they not have any targets of their own?

As for whether he's any good now, I've no idea but his career does seem to have stalled badly recently so it's probably a deal to be approached with extreme caution.

I'd say with the signings so far this season the argument they don't have their own targets is pretty much just an excuse to blast.

[RevidgeBlue]

56 minutes ago, Beanie01289 said:

I'd say with the signings so far this season the argument they don't have their own targets is pretty much just an excuse to blast.

OK, if you want to be pedantic about it, do they not have any "midfield" targets of their own?

[RevidgeBlue]

1 hour ago, BRFC4EVA said:

100% agree. And this is exactly what I have tried to explain to the apologists on Facebook. You need to invest money to make money. Otherwise you're just selling the crown jewels until there is noone left. Yes you will do the odd miracle and invest 500k on someone and they'll turn into a 15m man. However it is far more likely if you're spending 1.5 to 3m ala SS, Armstrong etc.

A prime example would be this £6m striker we've been linked with. I'd be amazed if we go ahead with that but we'd be unlikely to ever lose money on him and as you say as a general rule of thumb you have to invest in a decent bit of quality in the first place to have the best chance of turning a decent profit.

[Iceman]

Loans are fine, but you can't keep on preparing these loan players for other teams. At some point, you have to make permanent signins more consistently, or we will continue to be in this situation, of scrambling to fill the squad. 

 

[Iceman]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

A prime example would be this £6m striker we've been linked with. I'd be amazed if we go ahead with that but we'd be unlikely to ever lose money on him and as you say as a general rule of thumb you have to invest in a decent bit of quality in the first place to have the best chance of turning a decent profit.

I remember hearing of the quality of Sam Gallagher, when we splashed £8 mill on him. 

[rob_of_the_rovers]

Seems like Beck is similar to Gent in that he played quite a lot at wing back last season

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, Iceman said:

I remember hearing of the quality of Sam Gallagher, when we splashed £8 mill on him. 

Knew someone would say that.

It was actually "only" £5m but what made that all the more unforgivable for me was the fact he'd already been on loan here and we'd seen beyond any doubt he wasn't all that.

(Albeit a lot better than when he joined permanently)

[Lancaster Rover]

Please god no to Cantwell, he’s spent his time up the road getting rinsed by Sutton and done buggar all else. Christ, Ryan Kent was better in old firm games and that’s saying something. Enormous waste of a wage and he’s a gigantic prick to boot, he’s lived off the reputation he built as a young player at Norwich. The reality is that his star has faded very quickly to the point where he’s been non existent in Rangers crunch games and doesn’t exactly have clubs beating down the door to sign him and his ego. Steer well clear 

Edited August 27 by Lancaster Rover

[Lancaster Rover]

Bit worrying we seem to be linked with a load of players Park signed at Rangers. All of whom have failed to rip up any trees. 

[Ossydave]

The Beck story may well just be a speculative punt from Nixon tbh.

We've got a track record of loaning youngsters from Liverpool and seem to do so pretty much every window, LB is a position we're looking to strengthen, so it would add up.

Personally I liked Chrisene last season, but he wasn't being considered ahead of Pickering either so I don't think his first team place is under threat. He does always pick up knocks though.

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, Ossydave said:

The Beck story may well just be a speculative punt from Nixon tbh.

We've got a track record of loaning youngsters from Liverpool and seem to do so pretty much every window, LB is a position we're looking to strengthen, so it would add up.

Personally I liked Chrisene last season, but he wasn't being considered ahead of Pickering either so I don't think his first team place is under threat. He does always pick up knocks though.

Jackson did a story on Beck last night saying he is signing here. 

 

 

[Ossydave]

Ah fair enough I've only just woke up so thought it was Nixon only story.

Not overly against it, back up players being loans makes sense for us, not so much for the clubs loaning them out though....

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

7 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who was you thinking as back up left back? 

I think most were hoping for an improvement on Pickering not a back up.   Pickering would be ok as a squad filler. 

We were told by Eustace that any signings need to be better than what we already have. 

We already had a young lad, who did ok in the SPL at left back.  Yet we sold him to Barnsley. 

May as well just have kept Gent. 

[Roverthechimp]

We lack cover for LB and Pickering Isn’t the best wingback. A pacy lb on loan that can play wingback is a very shrewd move for strengthening the team/squad.

What is the problem?

If anyone genuinely believes that our sales are for anything other than running costs (in which I include cheap transfers to keep us in the championship) then I must be watching a different film…

edit: Gent sold not loaned. 

Edited August 27 by Roverthechimp