bluebruce Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 Amario Cozier-Duberry looks like a good player from the videos, even if they're just highlights and much of it is at youth level. Could turn into an exciting loan signing if there's anything in it. I'm a bit confused though - apparently Brighton signed him from Arsenal for free. But after rejecting a new contract offer from Arsenal. The only way that should be possible is if Arsenal didn't offer him equal terms to what he was already on, but with him being only 19 and them being one of the richest clubs in the country, it seems highly unlikely that would be the case. Quote
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TommyRovers Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 (edited) 21/22 season: Forest loaned 6 players 22/23 season: Burnley loaned 6 players Sheffield United loaned 4 players Luton loaned 3 players 23/24 season Ipswich loaned 6 players Southampton loaned 7 players Good loans get you promoted. Edited August 28, 2024 by TommyRovers 9 1 Quote
JHRover Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, TommyRovers said: As it currently stands we have one loan player. That's a hell of a lot of players we have under contract. Most of our business this summer has been permanent. There's your squad building right there. All clubs at this level loan players. We've signed 5 senior permanent players, of which 3 will be gone by July when their 12 month contracts expire. That number is eclipsed by the number of sales and departures since January. We've a heap of cash and massive FFP flexibility (two excuses for lack of spending in previous windows gone) and months and months to prepare for this window since selling Adam Wharton. And lo and behold despite all the talk about plans, changes, new structures, it's the tried and tested cheap, easy, last minute short term-ism again. Building? Don't make me laugh. It's cobbling together a squad whilst the cash disappears out the side door. 2 Quote
TugaysMarlboro Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 23 minutes ago, DeeCee said: Sorry I'm just in negative mode regarding Rovers and false dawns despite it being my birthday🤔 Happy birthday! 2 Quote
TommyRovers Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, JHRover said: We've signed 5 senior permanent players, of which 3 will be gone by July when their 12 month contracts expire. That number is eclipsed by the number of sales and departures since January. We've a heap of cash and massive FFP flexibility (two excuses for lack of spending in previous windows gone) and months and months to prepare for this window since selling Adam Wharton. And lo and behold despite all the talk about plans, changes, new structures, it's the tried and tested cheap, easy, last minute short term-ism again. Building? Don't make me laugh. It's cobbling together a squad whilst the cash disappears out the side door. We all know know the venkys issue and I agree with you. The investment isn't enough. But we have signed players on permanent deals this summer (and more to follow) and in previous windows. Our squad isn't built on loan deals. Quote
JHRover Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 4 minutes ago, TommyRovers said: 21/22 season: Forest loaned 6 players 22/23 season: Burnley loaned 6 players Sheffield United loaned 4 players Luton loaned 3 players 23/24 season Ipswich loaned 6 players Southampton loaned 7 players Good loans get you promoted. All those clubs spent substantially on both permanent signings and loans. We are doing neither. The comparisons end there, those clubs had a serious intention to get somewhere. This one doesn't. Quote
TommyRovers Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 (edited) 6 minutes ago, JHRover said: All those clubs spent substantially on both permanent signings and loans. We are doing neither. The comparisons end there, those clubs had a serious intention to get somewhere. This one doesn't. Take the premier league loans out of those squads and tell me they do just as well. The right loans can change your squad into promotion contenders. All the promoted teams loan premier league players. Edited August 28, 2024 by TommyRovers 1 Quote
Torgeir Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, JHRover said: All those clubs spent substantially on both permanent signings and loans. We are doing neither. The comparisons end there, those clubs had a serious intention to get somewhere. This one doesn't. I can agree with you on that one. Strictly maintanence. Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 Dembele might happen, Birmingham will drop the price or even a loan. Nixon on Radio Lancs right now Quote
KentExile Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 8 minutes ago, bluebruce said: Amario Cozier-Duberry looks like a good player from the videos, even if they're just highlights and much of it is at youth level. Could turn into an exciting loan signing if there's anything in it. I'm a bit confused though - apparently Brighton signed him from Arsenal for free. But after rejecting a new contract offer from Arsenal. The only way that should be possible is if Arsenal didn't offer him equal terms to what he was already on, but with him being only 19 and them being one of the richest clubs in the country, it seems highly unlikely that would be the case. Same as with Finneran, there will be a fee & add ons/sell on etc set by tribunal Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 Is this Brighton lad close to signing or is it just an interest? Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, roversfan99 said: Is this Brighton lad close to signing or is it just an interest? We have speak to the player and he might join Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Dembele might happen, Birmingham will drop the price or even a loan. Nixon on Radio Lancs right now Thats one that would only make sense as a permanent deal. And we should be able to afford it having spent less than 2m of the 40m brought in. Surely we wouldnt get him and the Brighton lad? Not saying we shouldnt. Quote
Iceman Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 13 minutes ago, TommyRovers said: 21/22 season: Forest loaned 6 players 22/23 season: Burnley loaned 6 players Sheffield United loaned 4 players Luton loaned 3 players 23/24 season Ipswich loaned 6 players Southampton loaned 7 players Good loans get you promoted. I guess 1 year of PL football is the dream these days Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 Nixon saying on BBC Radio Lancs that Krul didn't happen over a couple of thousands pounds. The Hungarian keeper is flying over tonight 2 Quote
islander200 Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: Is this Brighton lad close to signing or is it just an interest? Nixon said Brighton are willing and the player has already spoken to Rovers, weighing his options up Quote
patrickvalery Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, TommyRovers said: It's a forum where you give your opinion. If you disagree with my opinion tell me why or don't respond. I don't really give a shit about your opinions. You're entitled to them. But if you're trying to tell me your name is Tommy Rovers....come on mate. I wasn't born yesterday! Quote
Iceman Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 16 minutes ago, Forever Blue said: The soothing tones of Big Al Nixon on Radio lancs with a bit of late night transfer tittle tattle Sounds romantic Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: Thats one that would only make sense as a permanent deal. And we should be able to afford it having spent less than 2m of the 40m brought in. Surely we wouldnt get him and the Brighton lad? Not saying we shouldnt. we seen by Saturday. Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, islander200 said: Nixon said Brighton are willing and the player has already spoken to Rovers, weighing his options up Do you have the article? Does he have other options. I never thought I would be asking that! But he has been good with Rovers news this summer. Although if its John Park, surely its not good that hes leaking our transfer news. Quote
RoverCanada Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 (edited) Whatever restrictions/fuckery he's having to deal with, one of my assumptions/conclusions from this window is that John Park is not a fool (and maybe some credit to Gestede/Owen?). (edit: should add biggest TBD is what happens GK-wise...) Edited August 28, 2024 by RoverCanada 3 Quote
Popular Post TommyRovers Posted August 28, 2024 Popular Post Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, patrickvalery said: I don't really give a shit about your opinions. You're entitled to them. But if you're trying to tell me your name is Tommy Rovers....come on mate. I wasn't born yesterday! Chaddy and I have the same father 20 Quote
roversfan99 Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said: Nixon saying on BBC Radio Lancs that Krul didn't happen over a couple of thousands pounds. The Hungarian keeper is flying over tonight I didnt want Krul, but it sums the owners up that we have seemingly struggled with a few deals over peanuts in the grand scheme of things. Quote
patrickvalery Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, TommyRovers said: Chaddy and I have the same father I know son. I know. 5 Quote
chaddyrovers Posted August 28, 2024 Posted August 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, roversfan99 said: Do you have the article? Does he have other options. I never thought I would be asking that! But he has been good with Rovers news this summer. Although if its John Park, surely its not good that hes leaking our transfer news. What I have said and Islander have said is the story. Nothing else to it 1 minute ago, roversfan99 said: I didnt want Krul, but it sums the owners up that we have seemingly struggled with a few deals over peanuts in the grand scheme of things. Krul didn't want to lose that money in wages. We have a wage budget and we stick to him. Cantwell drop his wages to come here and play regular first team football. Dembele similar. Both would be very good here if both signed Quote
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