v Plymouth Argyle (h) - 09/03/2024

[martonrover]

1 hour ago, Blow-in said:

Either the squad is terrible and neither manager was responsible or both managers were poor.

 

In my opinion We were going down under JDT, I think he was capable of saving us and had demonstrated the year before that he is a very capable manager but he had lost interest and in my opinion was doing whatever it took to get out of his contract and if that meant relegation so be it.

 

It’s too early to make a judgement on Eustace, but JDT wasn’t “poor”, but very stubborn, and I do agree that he had lost interest and should’ve been relieved of his duties sooner.

It would take a highly skilled operator to get a tune out of this bunch of misfits, and a troubleshooter appointment was needed to give us a chance of staying up this season.

It doesn’t look as if Eustace will fit the bill, but it ain’t over until it’s over.

Neither are / were “managers” and that is significant in terms of player recruitment.

 

 

Edited March 10, 2024 by martonrover

[RevidgeBlue]

7 minutes ago, martonrover said:

It’s too early to make a judgement on Eustace, but JDT wasn’t “poor”, but very stubborn, and I do agree that he had lost interest and should’ve been relieved of his duties sooner.

It would take a highly skilled operator to get a tune out of this bunch of misfits, and a troubleshooter appointment was needed to give us a chance of staying up this season.

It doesn’t look as if Eustace will fit the bill, but it ain’t over until it’s over.

 

 

We might end up being incredibly grateful to Damien Johnson for those 3 points against Stoke. I agree a temporary firefighting appointment until the end of the season might have been best then rather than rip everything up and start again.

You'd have thought the most logical idea might have been to revert to the previous JDT  "model" of play albeit with a decent Director of Football in situ this time.

Edited March 10, 2024 by RevidgeBlue

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

We’d brought in players to play the JDT passing game. Then  the new guy decides to play a more direct game without having enough of the necessary players to play that way. Flying in the face of the age old coaching dictum - “ quickly analyse the skill set of your players and decide on a way of playing that suits them best “. Looking at Gally he should be the ideal target man for that sort of game but everybody and his dog at Ewood knew he isn’t. Even JDT made the mistake of thinking he was.

i was really optimistic after the Newcastle game but I’m afraid the last three games have sunk us. We needed 6 points and we came up with 2. Not enough I’m afraid.

[booth]

4 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who gives a shit a fucking Coyle? the guy was a embarrassment to even been appointed as Rovers manager after being a dingle. You even mentioning again and again is a joke. nothing more

The Chaddometer used to swing wildly during the Coyle days. Well documented.

[roversfan99]

Its all about parroting the party line. There wasnt a negative word said about JDT when here, now things Eustace has said are echoed and held against Tomasson, we got a couple of draws when losing being the main one. Also the excuses Eustace repeats amidst his no excuse culture.

Fact of the matter is we have not won a game under Eustace with 5 points from 7 games, none against a side in the top 6.

Apparently Tomasson's passing style was absolutely correct right until he left and now Eustace's negative football is bang on because its back to basics, although weve only kept one clean sheet in that time and its removed any attacking threat.

Playing 5 defenders in every game with one being painfully slow, Gallagher back on the wing, Szmodics as a false 9, its not working out and the jury is very much out on Eustace.

Talk of comparisons to Kean and Coyle is obviously provocative and premature nonsense at this stage. He will need 2 wins from 3 to better the amount of games won in Henning Berg's first 10 games though.

[K-Hod]

When comparing to Kean, I hope that’s only to performances on the pitch, I really do.
If it isn’t, I recommend people rack their brains and brush up on their history, otherwise, it sounds a bit mental, I’ll be honest.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

When comparing to Kean, I hope that’s only to performances on the pitch, I really do.
If it isn’t, I recommend people rack their brains and brush up on their history, otherwise, it sounds a bit mental, I’ll be honest.

Nobody compares to Kean. He’s in a lack of class all on his own.

Edited March 10, 2024 by Tyrone Shoelaces

[philipl]

19 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Nobody compares to Kean. He’s a lack of class all on his own.

Kean was far worse than lacking class..

I am worried but we are over doing writing Eustace off. 

[simongarnerisgod]

Just now, philipl said:

Kean was far worse than lacking class..

I am worried but we are over doing writing Eustace off. 

no manager could ever be worse than kean,however eustace does remind me of ince,in that he shouts a lot but is clueless about changing tactics during the game,he only went for a back five when mcfadzean was sent off,plymouth were running riot all game with our high line being exposed

[Roverthechimp]

Yesterday we started on the front foot - we tried to play a higher defensive line and it worked for about 15 minutes.

Leading 1-0 and having “got away with a few scares” it needed a plan b. Not sure we had one or if the players are just incapable.

The only thing he got right was taking Buckley off instead of Hyari.

A final note: Wahlstedt made a decent save in the goal incident - unlucky that the rebounds fell where they did.

[Roverthechimp]

10 minutes ago, simongarnerisgod said:

no manager could ever be worse than kean,however eustace does remind me of ince,in that he shouts a lot but is clueless about changing tactics during the game,he only went for a back five when mcfadzean was sent off,plymouth were running riot all game with our high line being exposed

Wonder just how much he has to listen to our senior players to keep them onboard…

[AllRoverAsia]

8 minutes ago, Roverthechimp said:

Yesterday we started on the front foot - we tried to play a higher defensive line and it worked for about 15 minutes.

Leading 1-0 and having “got away with a few scares” it needed a plan b. Not sure we had one or if the players are just incapable.

The only thing he got right was taking Buckley off instead of Hyari.

A final note: Wahlstedt made a decent save in the goal incident - unlucky that the rebounds fell where they did.

No save made. The shot hit Sammie on the goal line and then fell to the scorer.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, booth said:

The Chaddometer used to swing wildly during the Coyle days. Well documented.

boring Booth. nothing new from you. I want to Rovers to be successful even tho that dingle was in charge. why would any Rovers fan not want success? 

[chaddyrovers]

4 hours ago, Ossydave said:

Not in the mood for you chaddy so ill leave you to shit rainbows and turd polish all day.

All I gave you was circumstances why they would be there and the fact I don't see a problem with them socialising after a game on Saturday with a few beers and meal. They are still humans at the end of the day

[Roverthechimp]

20 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

No save made. The shot hit Sammie on the goal line and then fell to the scorer.

Before that - LW save went to the guy that then hit the shot that hit SS

[chaddyrovers]

2 hours ago, London blue said:

Where are those 10 points coming from?

2 wins, 4 draws and 3 lost

2 hours ago, Mercer said:

The only embarrassment atm is Eusless.

I have already posted and said my opinion on Eustace and I won't be changing my opinion

2 hours ago, Mercer said:

Think it's quite clear why Brum got rid of him - IMO, a man without tactical nous and zero charisma who creates a holiday camp atmosphere for the players (far too pally, pally).  I've seen enough already and think he will turn out to be one of our worse managers of the last 60 years or so ranking alongside Iley, Kean, Ince and Coyle (worse 4 managers I can recall off the top of my head).  Don't mention Rooney - an absolute disaster at Brum.

Birmingham fans won't agree with you and he left them 6th in the league. 

Eustace is nowhere the level of Kean or Coyle embarrassment time in the Rovers managerial seat and to be quite honest your post is a totally embarrassment linking Eustace to Kean and Coyle to be quite frank Mercer. You should be ashamed to even post such drivel 

2 hours ago, Mercer said:

My prediction - we wont get to 50 points and will get relegated.

What's your prediction - how many points will we get and will we stay up?   

Mercer I said this morning we will get 10 points and stay up. 

[Ewood Ace]

1 hour ago, K-Hod said:

When comparing to Kean, I hope that’s only to performances on the pitch, I really do.

Eustace does appear to use White Hart Lane in 2012 as a blueprint to set his team up. 29% possession at home to Plymouth is utterly embarrassing. 

[broadsword]

7 hours ago, Ossydave said:

The stupid thing is, you don't NEED pace to be a decent centre half, obviously it helps like. You adjust your game accordingly and your manager doesn't try and play high. He did, it cost us multiple times, he didn't adjust and it ultimately led to a red card. Absolute basics done wrong.

Absolutely. McFadzean had barely played before coming to us, now he's getting selected every game, he's late thirties, and expected to hold a high line.

I mean it's just asking for trouble. In fact that should be on the club badge now.

 

Blackburn rovers. Club motto-asking for trouble

[Herbie6590]

 

[Exiled_Rover]

3 hours ago, RevidgeBlue said:

We might end up being incredibly grateful to Damien Johnson for those 3 points against Stoke. I agree a temporary firefighting appointment until the end of the season might have been best then rather than rip everything up and start again.

You'd have thought the most logical idea might have been to revert to the previous JDT  "model" of play albeit with a decent Director of Football in situ this time.

But you'd sold the only CM at the club that could make that 'model' tick. You had to change the style of play.

[NeilInBristol]

55 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

2 wins, 4 draws and 3 lost

I have already posted and said my opinion on Eustace and I won't be changing my opinion

Birmingham fans won't agree with you and he left them 6th in the league. 

Eustace is nowhere the level of Kean or Coyle embarrassment time in the Rovers managerial seat and to be quite honest your post is a totally embarrassment linking Eustace to Kean and Coyle to be quite frank Mercer. You should be ashamed to even post such drivel 

Mercer I said this morning we will get 10 points and stay up. 

after such abject performances against such poor opposition recently do you think we will get 2 wins? 

[chaddyrovers]

2 minutes ago, NeilInBristol said:

after such abject performances against such poor opposition recently do you think we will get 2 wins? 

YES!

[roversfan99]

The thing is, there are so many teams down there, it shouldnt be too hard to scrape over the line.

If we did win twice of the last 9, that would be 2 in 16, so wouldnt bode well for next season. Nor would it be an achievement.

[Giant]

18 hours ago, Ghost7 said:

Relegation from the Championship is what it deserves

But its fans don’t. I’ll never understand why any fan would want their club to be relegated.

Edited March 10, 2024 by Giant
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[Mercer]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

Eustace is nowhere the level of Kean or Coyle embarrassment time in the Rovers managerial seat and to be quite honest your post is a totally embarrassment linking Eustace to Kean and Coyle to be quite frank Mercer. You should be ashamed to even post such drivel 

Even Kean and Coyle won games!!!

Atm, after 8 games in charge, Eusless has a win % of ZERO - let that sink in.

I am struggling to think of any newly appointed Rovers' manager who after 8 games had yet to record a win.

I think we've appointed a dud and the mood  music ain't good.

Think you need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Edited March 10, 2024 by Mercer