Silvester sacked Baker appointed

[chaddyrovers]

11 hours ago, JHRover said:

The senior management structure of the club, according to the website, consists of six people:

Steve Waggott, Gandhi Babu, Sreenivasa Rao, Robert Coar, Suhail Sheikh and Matt Wright.

Senior management, by its very definition, takes ultimate responsibility for the performance of the club.

If you are the head of an organisation and people beneath you fail to the extent that it costs the organisation money, opportunity, potential promotion, not to mention immense reputational damage, then the head takes responsibility.

So I would expect to see greater consequences than this yes.

It was his job to upload and send the paperwork over and he failed to do it correctly. Surely you agree with him being fired tho? 

If I was in charge personally I would have sack the CEO aswell. Would you have like to see it this happen? 

11 hours ago, JHRover said:

As I said, if our 'senior management' all walked together into the Blues Bar or Fox and Hounds on matchday with the exception of Waggott and perhaps some older end recognising Coar I don't think any Rovers fan would recognise or have the slightest clue who the other 4 are, wouldn't know their names or know what job they do at the club.

I don't think a single photograph can be found online of these people, Sheikh has been photographed a few times usually by accident sitting next to Waggott.

I'm not comfortable with that. I'd like to know who does what at the top of the organisation that clearly has had major operational shortcomings over the last few years.

I can understand your points about. 

 

11 hours ago, JHRover said:

Yes I knew who Martin Goodman was and would probably recognise him today. He was based at Ewood Park, attended Club events, transparent, communicated, attended matches and had a clearly defined role as our Financial Director. Same with John Williams and Tom Finn.

This lot are a different matter altogether.

Fair enough. 

 

1 hour ago, Andy said:

Was Silvester not the guy who was retiring this summer anyway?

Or am I thinking of someone else?

That was Mike Cheston who has just retired and replaced by Matt Wright

Edited May 9, 2024 by chaddyrovers

[rovers11]

20 minutes ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Sorry i can't see any info on him, what was his role at brighton how long was he there etc.... 

Club Secretary so a pretty senior role. He lists "player registrations" as being under his remit at Brighton.

He was there 3-4 years. Feels like the best appointment the club have made for quite some time but not sure if anyone can thrive under these owners.

Edited May 9, 2024 by rovers11

[Upside Down]

7 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

Club Secretary so a pretty senior role. He lists "player registrations" as being under his remit at Brighton.

He was there 3-4 years. Feels like the best appointment the club have made for quite some time but not sure if anyone can thrive under these owners.

Definitely looks like he's making a move to be back at home. In that respect I can't blame him, who'd want to be surrounded by southerners 24/7?

How long until he quits the circus?

[rovers11]

7 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

Definitely looks like he's making a move to be back at home. In that respect I can't blame him, who'd want to be surrounded by southerners 24/7?

How long until he quits the circus?

I am a southerner 😄 Not too far from the club he's joined us from. 

I give it a year until he quits.

[roversfan99]

Of course he deserved sacking if he made such a big error, I doubt anyone disagrees. But it also does feel like a futile gesture considering he is/was surrounded by much bigger issues, only the most naive will see this as drawing a line under the sorry situation.

Weve still got owners with no interest in the club, slashing the budget, causing huge delays wanting to approve deals, and blocking spending any of the Wharton money. Weve still got a buffoon of a CEO working in tandem with an anonymous snake in passing on the owners orders. And weve still got a director of football with a shit record who insisted that after messing up 2 prior signings, such idiocy wouldnt happen again.

[bluebruce]

Silvester out, Baker in...my first thought was it sounds like we're swapping Time Lords!

(I wish we did have a Time Lord helping run the club...first mission, go back and sabotage Venkys' purchase of the club by any means necessary)

[bluebruce]

1 hour ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Sorry i can't see any info on him, what was his role at brighton how long was he there etc.... 

If it's your first time on linkedin on your browser, you should be able to scroll down and see all that. When I tried to open it again in the same browser it forced me to log in to see anything and I had to switch browser. But he was Club Secretary at Brighton for 3 years 11 months. Also at Sunderland before that for 6 years 4 months, where he was Assistant Club Secretary, then Club Secretary, then Head of Football Administration, which is his role here. Before that, Deputy Head of Administration at Birmingham for 4 years 7 months, and a Player Administration Assistant at the EFL for 8 years. So he's been in these sorts of roles in football for about 23 years. Honestly I'm a bit surprised to see us hire someone who actually has a decent amount of relevant experience.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

director of football with a shit record who insisted that after messing up 2 prior signings, such idiocy wouldnt happen again.

Would you sack and replace him with someone else? 

 

[roversfan99]

55 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Would you sack and replace him with someone else? 

 

Probably, has seemed out of his depth really since he joined, but then again, he isnt the main problem, so it would probably make little difference either way.

I always said that a director of football can be a real asset at a functional club. But it comes with risks if that isnt the case. At this dysfunctional mess of a club, I think it probably just adds an extra layer that causes further delays and disagreements, weve seen that here so we would probably be better off without one.

[Upside Down]

2 hours ago, rovers11 said:

I am a southerner 😄 Not too far from the club he's joined us from. 

I give it a year until he quits.

We all have our crosses to bear.

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Probably, has seemed out of his depth really since he joined, but then again, he isnt the main problem, so it would probably make little difference either way.

I always said that a director of football can be a real asset at a functional club. But it comes with risks if that isnt the case. At this dysfunctional mess of a club, I think it probably just adds an extra layer that causes further delays and disagreements, weve seen that here so we would probably be better off without one.

Fair enough. 

I would split the club into two really.  Where CEO runs the admin and commercial side of the club and the DoF runs the football side like appoint the head coach, transfers, contracts, etc. 

Each judge on the season performance. 

 

[tomphil]

10 hours ago, bluebruce said:

If it's your first time on linkedin on your browser, you should be able to scroll down and see all that. When I tried to open it again in the same browser it forced me to log in to see anything and I had to switch browser. But he was Club Secretary at Brighton for 3 years 11 months. Also at Sunderland before that for 6 years 4 months, where he was Assistant Club Secretary, then Club Secretary, then Head of Football Administration, which is his role here. Before that, Deputy Head of Administration at Birmingham for 4 years 7 months, and a Player Administration Assistant at the EFL for 8 years. So he's been in these sorts of roles in football for about 23 years. Honestly I'm a bit surprised to see us hire someone who actually has a decent amount of relevant experience.

He sounds like the best qualified person for a position this lot have ever employed !

[Hasta]

18 minutes ago, tomphil said:

He sounds like the best qualified person for a position this lot have ever employed !

Let's hope his very short term ambition is to be a Chief Exec. Can't be any worse.

Edited May 10, 2024 by Hasta

[Armchair supporter supremo]

12 hours ago, bluebruce said:

If it's your first time on linkedin on your browser, you should be able to scroll down and see all that. When I tried to open it again in the same browser it forced me to log in to see anything and I had to switch browser. But he was Club Secretary at Brighton for 3 years 11 months. Also at Sunderland before that for 6 years 4 months, where he was Assistant Club Secretary, then Club Secretary, then Head of Football Administration, which is his role here. Before that, Deputy Head of Administration at Birmingham for 4 years 7 months, and a Player Administration Assistant at the EFL for 8 years. So he's been in these sorts of roles in football for about 23 years. Honestly I'm a bit surprised to see us hire someone who actually has a decent amount of relevant experience.

Seems an excellent pedigree! BUT venkys era rovers being the way it is you have to ask why he'd drop down to a struggling club with little real ambition. 

Surely it couldn't just be for more money(Id imagine he was being paid very well already at brighton) and/or for sentimental reasons like being closer to home

Maybe he has ambitions to step up to more of chairman role in the future (paving the way for waggot to finally leave) 

Edited May 10, 2024 by Armchair supporter supremo

[Armchair supporter supremo]

And hopefully his links to Brighton we may meen we carry on getting some of their better youngsters in on loan! 

Edited May 10, 2024 by Armchair supporter supremo

[roversfan99]

9 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Fair enough. 

I would split the club into two really.  Where CEO runs the admin and commercial side of the club and the DoF runs the football side like appoint the head coach, transfers, contracts, etc. 

Each judge on the season performance. 

 

Sounds good...at a functional club. 

[Exiled_Rover]

Have the club actually commented on this yet?

[tomphil]

1 hour ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Seems an excellent pedigree! BUT venkys era rovers being the way it is you have to ask why he'd drop down to a struggling club with little real ambition. 

Surely it couldn't just be for more money(Id imagine he was being paid very well already at brighton) and/or for sentimental reasons like being closer to home

Maybe he has ambitions to step up to more of chairman role in the future (paving the way for waggot to finally leave) 

But they portray ambition, ask Broughton ask JDT ask numerous players, all been sold a pup.

If this fella is what it says on the tin he won't be here long.

Training raw cheap options

like Rudy and bringing in already on the parent firm Indian cricket fans is how the Venky model really works.

[NeilInBristol]

On 09/05/2024 at 00:58, chaddyrovers said:

Baker's LinkedIn page

https://www.linkedin.com/in/brett-baker-5368ba35?originalSubdomain=uk

Looks like he's got experience. Perhaps brings some Brighton experience of how to manage the admin dept. They do well with their tsfs

[bluebruce]

3 hours ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Seems an excellent pedigree! BUT venkys era rovers being the way it is you have to ask why he'd drop down to a struggling club with little real ambition. 

Surely it couldn't just be for more money(Id imagine he was being paid very well already at brighton) and/or for sentimental reasons like being closer to home

Maybe he has ambitions to step up to more of chairman role in the future (paving the way for waggot to finally leave) 

His early roles were in Lancashire and Preston, and he went to uni in Bolton. I suspect he might be from the area, which could be a factor. I also noted he left his post at Brighton in April, which may be due to having already agreed to start with us in May, but it could also be he was let go from there for some reason. Or it may just be he wanted a couple of weeks to move back to the area. You could also be right about seeing more progression potential here.

[ABBEY]

20 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

It was his job to upload and send the paperwork over and he failed to do it correctly. Surely you agree with him being fired tho? 

If I was in charge personally I would have sack the CEO aswell. Would you have like to see it this happen? 

 

Why do you believe every bit of venkygander they sprout?

Venkapologist or gullible?

[ABBEY]

20 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Of course he deserved sacking if he made such a big error, I doubt anyone disagrees. But it also does feel like a futile gesture considering he is/was surrounded by much bigger issues, only the most naive will see this as drawing a line under the sorry situation.

Weve still got owners with no interest in the club, slashing the budget, causing huge delays wanting to approve deals, and blocking spending any of the Wharton money. Weve still got a buffoon of a CEO working in tandem with an anonymous snake in passing on the owners orders. And weve still got a director of football with a shit record who insisted that after messing up 2 prior signings, such idiocy wouldnt happen again.

Are you related to caddy?

Why do you believe maggot and the chicken shits

[roversfan99]

21 minutes ago, ABBEY said:

Are you related to caddy?

Why do you believe maggot and the chicken shits

Ive no idea how youve come to this conclusion from my post.

Edited May 10, 2024 by roversfan99

[chaddyrovers]

6 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Sounds good...at a functional club. 

I know that. Just pointing out what I would do plus a football an club board

6 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Have the club actually commented on this yet?

no

[bazza]

On 09/05/2024 at 20:06, Hasta said:

Went to Whitehaven School and sixth form then Bolton Uni. I presume therefore he’s moving closer to “home”

Also we have sandy beaches. Brighton doesn't.