norwichblue Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 14 minutes ago, roverandout said: No one has owners as bad as ours (Live fast) Dai Yongge possibly the worst. But yeah, Venky’s have to be up there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Devon Rover Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Bristol City and West Brom have so much more grit and determination about them than our lot, that's why we will finish below them. I don't think either are much better than us, to be honest. It's mindset and the ability to battle, consistently. These are some of the main characteristics that have been sanitised out from this squad since Venkys rode into town. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ferrit Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago (edited) Let’s be honest we will drop like a stone as we always do. Absolutely bog standard second half of the season capitulation. Edited 17 hours ago by Ferrit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torgeir Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago How long is Batth out for? Desperately need him back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Upside Down Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 3 hours ago, simongarnerisgod said: danny rohl undoutedly the manager of the year considering sheff wed are as big a basket case as we are in the owner stakes Nowhere near. They've a long way to go to reach our level. Difference is their fans don't queue around the block to lick the owner's boots the way our lot would if they ever bothered to turn up to a game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davulsukur Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago 9 hours ago, JHRover said: Eustace will keep Derby up I'm sure, some of the Rovers lot are going to end up with egg all over their faces. If anything Cardiff and Derby winning only makes tomorrow that much more difficult. Stoke simply have to beat us looking at that table. We know how that usually goes. Not that we need any more ammo against them but yeah, Waggott, Pasha and the cretins will all come out of this looking even worse than they already do, Derby survive and we continue to slide down the table. Next season we'll be struggling and Derby flying, probably with half our squad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattyblue Posted 8 hours ago Share Posted 8 hours ago Still, least we had some inflatable reptiles around our necks. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Blue Posted 8 hours ago Author Share Posted 8 hours ago 9 hours ago, Devon Rover said: Bristol City and West Brom have so much more grit and determination about them than our lot, that's why we will finish below them. I don't think either are much better than us, to be honest. It's mindset and the ability to battle, consistently. These are some of the main characteristics that have been sanitised out from this squad since Venkys rode into town. They’ve also spent a lot more money on players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norwichblue Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Saw a Cardiff fan posted this on the Championship subreddit. Tickled me 🤣 Highly recommend that sub: loads of great discussion, stats, self deprecation and piss taking. r/championship 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Rover Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago 2 hours ago, Forever Blue said: They’ve also spent a lot more money on players. Well, yes, that too. And that's another of the scandals of our ownership. However, I do think the right kind of players/attitude brought in goes a long way and doesn't always require large amounts of expenditure. We have generally done the opposite of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forever Blue Posted 5 hours ago Author Share Posted 5 hours ago (edited) 9 minutes ago, Devon Rover said: Well, yes, that too. And that's another of the scandals of our ownership. However, I do think the right kind of players/attitude brought in goes a long way and doesn't always require large amounts of expenditure. We have generally done the opposite of this. Disagree. We’ve been challenging for the play offs in 2 of the last 3 years. The mentality was fine under JDT, as it was under Eustace. You don’t challenge at the top end of the league unless the mentality is right, especially when you have one of the lowest budgets in the league. The issue is the owners and their negligence, the issue is not the players attitude. Edited 5 hours ago by Forever Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devon Rover Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 4 hours ago, Forever Blue said: Disagree. We’ve been challenging for the play offs in 2 of the last 3 years. The mentality was fine under JDT, as it was under Eustace. You don’t challenge at the top end of the league unless the mentality is right, especially when you have one of the lowest budgets in the league. The issue is the owners and their negligence, the issue is not the players attitude. We will have to agree to disagree - at least in part. The overriding issue is, of course, as you say. But I still strongly believe a lack of leadership and general 'bastardry' across the team impacts when the pressure is on. If you don't see any sign of that, that's fine. I feel like I do. We don't have enough battlers and, some might say, too many bottlers. Let's hope there is a lot more fight and energy from kick off tonight as there have been too many performances lacking in those values. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speeeeeeedie Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Devon Rover said: We will have to agree to disagree - at least in part. The overriding issue is, of course, as you say. But I still strongly believe a lack of leadership and general 'bastardry' across the team impacts when the pressure is on. If you don't see any sign of that, that's fine. I feel like I do. We don't have enough battlers and, some might say, too many bottlers. Let's hope there is a lot more fight and energy from kick off tonight as there have been too many performances lacking in those values. I agree with you. Since returning to the Championship from League 1 (and probably before, I'm not going back that far) Rovers have always fallen short when the stakes are higher which speaks to a flaw in the overall mentality irrespective of players or the manager. Mowbray's teams constantly got beat off those above them in the league. JDT's lot had a near 100% loss record if they went 1-0 down. Eustace took over a team in 17th yet scraped a 19th placed finish thanks to a win against a hungover Leicester team on the last day of the season. Look what Ismael has done; gifted 2 terrible teams in Swansea and Derby extremely comfortable wins. Very few expect anything other than defeat tonight. Does Venkys abysmal ownership bleed all the way down to shying away from opportunity when it presents itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaddyrovers Posted 50 minutes ago Share Posted 50 minutes ago 15 minutes ago, speeeeeeedie said: Look what Ismael has done; gifted 2 terrible teams in Swansea and Derby extremely comfortable wins. Lowe was in charge for Swansea game not Ismael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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