v Norwich City (a) - 17/08/2024

[simongarnerisgod]

30 minutes ago, booth said:

Our overall play suffers when he gets subbed off.

he was shattered and could barely muster a trot by the hour mark

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

 

obviously we have hindsight... but looking at that... knocking out right for brittain to run onto and looks the more obvious option, but brittain looks half a asleep as usual when it should have been him calling for the ball. although id have equally have been fine with him just lumping it up the pitch

 

Or ya know. Just boot it.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

1 hour ago, sharpysharps86 said:

On paper its a good point on the road, tough place to go given that we don't really know what Norwich will be like this season under a new manager, so previous good form there kind of goes out the window.

We can say its a poor result because we were 1-0 up, and we can also say its a good point for coming back from 2-1 down...so all in all I think it's probably a fair result for Rovers.

Need to work on this slow start from the 2nd half, its going to cause us problems, but I appreciate an amount of that is down to players like Hedges and Gueye having not had much of a pre-season.

Last season, and probably the season before that I'm doubtful that Rovers come back to get something from this game. That's 2 league games where they've shown good character after conceding, hopefully a sign of things to come.

A new goalkeeper is an absolute MUST, as we can all pretty much agree. Gueye put in another promising display. Ohashi appears to be a bit of a revelation so far, but definitely needs to be looked after a bit. I think having him as a super sub option makes more sense than to start him at the moment.

Going to be an interesting couple of weeks now with just the Oxford game to play before the transfer deadline. GK, LB cover, Winger, and a CM all needed. If I'm being greedy then another striking option too please.

I don’t know what they put in the half time tea ? It must be a soporific.

[tomphil]

4 hours ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He's fine defensively, but his best attributes are going forward.

Wonderful cross for that goal.

He really isn't he's piss weak like i said unless we are basically sat back with a rigid line and hes covered.

Great point today though, fully deserved overall.

Edited August 17 by tomphil

[Torgeir]

A little worried that our first eleven isn't fully matchfit. Gueye is a handful until he's out of energy and a real outlet for us, but we really struggle without him. JRC biggest disappointment so far, and think Weimann should start the next game. Brittain giving the ball away before their second goal was borderline criminal, but we got away with a few individual mistakes earlier in the match. Brittain made up for it with his brilliant cross to the brave Ohashi. Need a RW, think Hedges and Sigurdsson look okay on the left, and would prefer a quicker CM too, and a LB with some pace that we can use when Pickering gets skinned (been good so far). 

Great point, thought that wasn't more than we deserved, but a little bit better concentration and we could've hit them on the break and gotten 2-0 before they equalised. Josh Sargent is quality.

[BigBar]

1 hour ago, Exiled_Rover said:

A draw away at a side that finished in the Playoffs last year, a day after we sold the Championship's top goal scorer, and not a single Rover scores above a 6 - and you think that's a fair assessment? Curious.

Yeah I think it was a fair assessment. More the analysis than the ratings. Could you make a case for some to have been given a 7? Maybe yeah. No one was an 8 or above. Are you giving special marks to players because we lost Sammie? Curious.

[rovers11]

Excellent result today. Norwich are one of the best teams at home and haven't lost there since we last beat them last year so it was going to be a tough test. I thought first half we played really well but struggled in the second half.

The resilience and personnel off the bench to turn the game in our favour when it was ebbing away from us, just like last week, was really promising. Last season I think we only got a handful of points from losing positions and would completely tank in the final 20 mins of games. 

Yuki and Gueye are very good players at this level. Gueye's hold up play is excellent, although his fitness is poor, and Yuki seems to have a bit of everything. He's a very good finisher and full of energy. Has to start games from now on.

Downsides are that Pears is still absolutely hopeless and nearly cost us a couple of goals with his shoddy play. JRC is rubbish in the wide right role and needs to be moved back into CM where he is very good. 

We need 5 new players for us to have a good season: GK, LB, CM, 2x pacy wingers. 

[JPTSwindon]

Positives:

• Draw away to one of last season play off teams.
• Fought back to grab a point, something rarely seen under previous managers.
• Goals, goals… goals!
• Stockport thumped Blackpool, so roll on the cup.
• Margot got to wear her pink Rovers kit at the family BBQ to the annoyance of Dingle relatives gathered.

Negatives:

• Burnley winning comfortably again.
• Defending is for wimps.
• Stronger squad, but why do some players struggle to last 90 mins?
• Oh for Brad Friedel.

[waynerovers]

I'm backing Ohashi to get at least 20 goals in all competitions this season.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

30 minutes ago, BigBar said:

Yeah I think it was a fair assessment. More the analysis than the ratings. Could you make a case for some to have been given a 7? Maybe yeah. No one was an 8 or above. Are you giving special marks to players because we lost Sammie? Curious.

Here’s how I score it -

4 Shocking

5 Poor

6 Good

7 Very Good

8 Excellent

9 Brilliant

10 The second coming of Bryan Douglas

[Ricky]

On 16/08/2024 at 15:42, Mercer said:

Think Norwich have made a poor managerial appointment and will have a terrible season (bottom 8).

Can't see anything other than a Rovers' win.

Made my usual 2 bets (result and score) on Rovers' match - Rovers to win at 27/10 (licence to print money!) and by 3-1.

How much did you lose on your licence to print money then @Mercer

You’d be here quick enough spouting off about which bottle of red you’d bought had it come in.

[booth]

1 hour ago, simongarnerisgod said:

he was shattered and could barely muster a trot by the hour mark

I'm not saying he shouldn't be subbed, just that there's an obvious decline in play when he's not on the pitch.

[booth]

Just now, Ricky said:

How much did you lose on your licence to print money then @Mercer

You’d be here quick enough spouting off about which bottle of red you’d bought had it come in.

Be nice if he could take his jinx elsewhere, like say Burnley are going to win the league and definitely won't go into admin and drop through the leagues, and Preston have no chance of getting relegated and ending up none league within five years.

[Exiled_Rover]

1 hour ago, BigBar said:

Yeah I think it was a fair assessment. More the analysis than the ratings. Could you make a case for some to have been given a 7? Maybe yeah. No one was an 8 or above. Are you giving special marks to players because we lost Sammie? Curious.

After the wailing and gnashing of teeth that there was no life without Szmodics we went away to a very strong Championship team and got a point. So yes, I'm giving the team credit for that. 

There were no 8s, but I thought Ohashi, Gueye, Tronstad and Hedges all deserved 7s. If you score or assist you deserve a boost in your rating - the aim of the game is to score more goals than the opponent of course. Brittain would get a 7 if either of his CBs or his GK had covered for his error - sadly they didn't.  

[Exiled_Rover]

33 minutes ago, booth said:

I'm not saying he shouldn't be subbed, just that there's an obvious decline in play when he's not on the pitch.

We loose an easy outlet - it makes a massive difference when you have a big CF that the ball sticks to upfront. In an ideal world you'd have a like-for-like replacement for him. When we bring Ohashi on we have to change the way we play. 

[neophox]

Tronstads saving block after a Pears blunder...excellent stuff! We really need a new keeper.

[Neal]

Watching the goals back... Feel like Hyam didn't do enough on both goals. Didn't get tight enough to Sargent for the first and didn't throw himself to block the cross for the 2nd, just half hearted sticks a leg out. You need your centre halves to die for 3 points and I never feel he does. 

[Bethnal]

I’m just back from Norwich, after a nice evening out with friends there. Lot of good pubs, worth the visit.

Fans were excellent and vocal throughout.

Pears a liability, looks shot of confidence and capability at this stage. Upgrade essential.

We lack leaders. There are a lot of grafters, but nobody that anyone looks to when the chips are down and can manage the ebb and flow of the game. Travis was very much trying to lead by example and put a big shift in. Others like Hyam did not seize the day and a few were openly blaming each other for mistakes.  Brittain especially partial to a sulk.

On the front foot, we look dangerous. Norwich-supporting friends commented on the quality of our passing in tight spaces to get out of trouble and it was on display today in flashes. The problem is that the back four are the least capable of it and are being asked to do most of it, which is the highest risk area.

Tronstad excellent, extremely solid and despite a couple of errors, really kept us moving.

Buckley looked good coming on, which was unexpected. Sigurdsson had a lot more desire than we’ve seen, which is pleasing.

Dolan looked a bit lost, if busy. Tried to make too much happen, just seems to get in his own head. JRC isn’t a wide player, doesn’t have the positional sense for it, is currently wasted out there.

Gueye and Ohashi - once both fully up to speed, they have to start together, you’re looking at a Rhodes/Gestede-type linkup, potentially.

Ohashi’s header was magic, what a time to score it after it looked like we’d collapsed.

[AllRoverAsia]

Extended highlights with thanks to, you guessed it, Norwich 

I've not seen the full match yet but from these highlights:

Pears is pathetic. Gifts chances and turn routine saves into Kodak moments. Get rid, sue Mowbray and that fecking Boro agent for crimes against football.

Norwich should have scored at least 4.

Britain has his moments, not always in a good way. Good cross though.

Whomever got Big Mac and Yuki deserves a medal. Yuki went above and beyond the call of duty to score and avoid decapitation by a Big Penis.

Sack the set piece specialist coach. We've got worse in all areas of set piece execution.

I feel for all our defenders who play on knowing Pears is behind them.

Edited August 18 by AllRoverAsia

[lraC]

9 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Extended highlights with thanks to, you guessed it, Norwich 

 

There is nothing like a good Desmond.

[AllRoverAsia]

7 minutes ago, lraC said:

There is nothing like a good Desmond.

Not, in our case, "gracious defender" so has to be a Tutu.

[Upside Down]

55 minutes ago, AllRoverAsia said:

Extended highlights with thanks to, you guessed it, Norwich 

I've not seen the full match yet but from these highlights:

Pears is pathetic. Gifts chances and turn routine saves into Kodak moments. Get rid, sue Mowbray and that fecking Boro agent for crimes against football.

Norwich should have scored at least 4.

Britain has his moments, not always in a good way. Good cross though.

Whomever got Big Mac and Yuki deserves a medal. Yuki went above and beyond the call of duty to score and avoid decapitation by a Big Penis.

Sack the set piece specialist coach. We've got worse in all areas of set piece execution.

I feel for all our defenders who play on knowing Pears is behind them.

Pears is worth a 12 point deduction on his own. Get rid now.

[doctorryan]

 

[USABlue]

9 hours ago, Armchair supporter supremo said:

Pears is now in the Jake Kean phase.... average at best to begin with, now has zero confidence but we don't even have another senior keeper to replace him with...

Henis simply atrocious.  He never gets his hands up in time.  I loved the dive where he pushed it round the post, trouble is it was already two yards wide and he just dinated a corner to Norwich.  We are so limited if we do not uprade significantly in this position.

On keepers, I was surprised to see Christian Walton keeping for Ipswich today.

[USABlue]

12 hours ago, Darwen Rover 007 said:

Different team without the Big Mak.. 

We seemed to lose control altogether when he went off.  For all Norwich's huffin and puffin I thought we had them well marshalled.  We have a tendency to get a bit sloppy at bad times in dangerous areas.  I am happier with what I have seen than I thought I would be.  Biggest blunder so far goes to WAGGOT for trying to low ball on a decent keeper, 400k was it?  Nothing in the grand scheme of things and an amount that could be worth ten times that.  Cult hero in the making is our Sushi man.  Great fuckin goal today, you do not see that much anymore, always loved a diving header.  So far the lads and Eustace offer me a little hope.