Tracking our (outbound) loan players 24/25

[bluebruce]

Total side note, but this weird non league structure made me curious about how AFC Darwen were doing these days, so I took a look at their league and got momentarily confused...there's an Ashton Athletic there, so I thought I was looking at the 7th tier again...but there's also an Ashton Town there. And of course the 7th tier has Ashton United. It seems Ashton really excels at producing crap football clubs...or so I thought. The 7th tier sides are in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Ashton United are in Ashton-under-Lyne. Both come under Greater Manchester apparently but they're 28 miles apart. Not a lot of originality in naming going on between the Ashtons and the numerous Premier Leagues, maybe the same people named them all!

[KentExile]

Robbie Savage talking about James Edmondson's loan at Macclesfield before last nights match

 

[KentExile]

Starts this evening for

Vale drew 0-0 - Vale played the first 60odd minutes before being subbed off with the game at 0-0 in his first start since returning from injury.

Saadi - drew 2-2 - Saadi has now started the last 6 in all competitions, Its only Cyprus, and given that an aging Matt Derbyshire did "ok" there in his spell at AEK before moving to Bradford in League 2, I am guessing that it is probably on some sort of par with the 4th tier here, but he is doing ok for himself there by the looks of things.

Edited January 8 by KentExile

[KentExile]

Edmondson recalled, confirmed by Macclesfield, not by Rovers

 

 

Edited January 8 by KentExile

[Mattyblue]

On 07/01/2025 at 20:26, bluebruce said:

Total side note, but this weird non league structure made me curious about how AFC Darwen were doing these days, so I took a look at their league and got momentarily confused...there's an Ashton Athletic there, so I thought I was looking at the 7th tier again...but there's also an Ashton Town there. And of course the 7th tier has Ashton United. It seems Ashton really excels at producing crap football clubs...or so I thought. The 7th tier sides are in Ashton-in-Makerfield, Ashton United are in Ashton-under-Lyne. Both come under Greater Manchester apparently but they're 28 miles apart. Not a lot of originality in naming going on between the Ashtons and the numerous Premier Leagues, maybe the same people named them all!

There’s Curzon Ashton too…

[KentExile]

O'Riordan recalled & Duru loaned to Barrow in League 2

 

 

 

 

Edited January 9 by KentExile

[KentExile]

I wonder if Patrick Gamble may be the next to have his loan cut short.  Has only featured 3 times since they changed manager and  hasn't got off the bench for Fylde since October

[KentExile]

Lewis Bell (a winger) has gone to Marine until Feb 15th

 

 

Edited January 9 by KentExile

[KentExile]

Marine have confirmed that Atcheson & Montgomery's loans have ended and they have returned to Rovers

[KentExile]

Finally got approved on the Chesterfield forum - I registered before xmas, lol

Anyway, I have asked their thoughts on Markanday's loan

Edited January 10 by KentExile

[KentExile]

Numerous games called off this weekend

Duru

Olson

Gamble

Powell

Bell

Eastham

Honor

 

Markanday & Saadi do not play until next week

 

Starts on Saturday for 

Vale - lost 3-1 Vale sent of 93rd minute (credit EwoodGlory)

 

On the bench

Batty - lost 4-0  - Elliott & Morton start for Liverpool

Goddard - drew 2-2

 

Edited January 12 by KentExile

[bluebruce]

12 hours ago, KentExile said:

Finally got approved on the Chesterfield forum - I registered before xmas, lol

Anyway, I have asked their thoughts on Markanday's loan

What seems like sarcasm in the early posts aside, they seem very very happy with him.

If we can get him a League One team who will play him regularly and aren't struggling every week, I'd certainly try to move him up there. His contract situation means we will probably look to sell him this summer and we won't get much of our investment back if he has only shone in League Two.

I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as some do. Personally don't mind him as a squad player, but we have enough of those in his area at the mo, better quality is what's needed. Unless someone gets injured he probably won't be brought back for the first team squad, now or in the summer (well, maybe in the summer if Dolan leaves).

Edited January 11 by bluebruce

[KentExile]

3 hours ago, bluebruce said:

What seems like sarcasm in the early posts aside, they seem very very happy with him.

If we can get him a League One team who will play him regularly and aren't struggling every week, I'd certainly try to move him up there. His contract situation means we will probably look to sell him this summer and we won't get much of our investment back if he has only shone in League Two.

I don't think he is anywhere near as bad as some do. Personally don't mind him as a squad player, but we have enough of those in his area at the mo, better quality is what's needed. Unless someone gets injured he probably won't be brought back for the first team squad, now or in the summer (well, maybe in the summer if Dolan leaves).

We can safely deduce it was sarcasm

[EwoodGlory]

On 10/01/2025 at 15:48, KentExile said:

Starts on Saturday for 

Vale - lost 3-1 Vale played the full game, 

Sent off in the 93rd minute, noticed it on the vid printer.

[KentExile]

5 hours ago, EwoodGlory said:

Sent off in the 93rd minute, noticed it on the vid printer.

Amended my original post, thanks for that

 

Edited January 12 by KentExile

[Upside Down]

This entire thread is absolutely fantastic work.

Great job @KentExile 👍 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏

[KentExile]

I think  that due to them not being included on the bench v Middlesbrough yesterday, we can safely assume that there is at least "a plan" to find new loan homes for Garrett, O'Riordan, and possibly also Edmondson & Atcheson for the rest of the season

Edited January 13 by KentExile

[KentExile]

Elliott Jackson reporting Markanday to be recalled and sent to Leyton Orient in league 1

Chesterfield fans not too happy about the news

Edited January 12 by KentExile

[riverholmes]

10 hours ago, KentExile said:

I think  that due to them not being included on the bench v Middlesbrough yesterday, we can safely assume that there is at least "a plan" to find new loan homes for Garrett, O'Riordan, and possibly also Atcheson for the rest of the season

Would be a big ask, but for me Garrett has potentially the attributes to be a useful left back, even if just as a back-up - a position he sometimes played as a youth player. I’d like to see him there for the U21s to see what he can do. 

[bluebruce]

11 hours ago, KentExile said:

Elliott Jackson reporting Markanday to be recalled and sent to Leyton Orient in league 1

Chesterfield fans not too happy about the news

In theory, this should be exactly the right move. Too good for League 2 (as predicted) and moving to a team in a good position in League 1. Going to a struggling side might not have been productive at this point even if he got games.

My main concern though is almost the opposite...Orient are in sizzling form. They've won 7 of their last 8 in the league, 9 of their last 10 in all comps. The other game was a draw. He may have to be patient breaking into their team, as they'll be loathe to change a winning formula. That might allow time for him to lose his momentum and confidence. Early appearances may be off the bench, and with others having played so well presumably of late, he will have to shine to break in, which isn't always easy in 10 minutes or so. They'll be quick to judge (manager and fans) I expect. Ideal scenario of course is he hits the ground running, whether that be off the bench or in starts, otherwise I think he could find it hard going and the loan might not go well.

If he can have a similar degree of success to his Chesterfield loan, but in League One, I suspect we might give him another look in the summer, although he will be in his last (extended) year of his deal by then and if he breaks in here we'll be under pressure to get him on a new deal or lose him for free due to his age. If he doesn't do well enough it may be a case of selling him (not for very much I suspect, maybe with a deal mainly based on a sell-on clause).

[KentExile]

Start this evening for

Saadi - lost 2-1

Edited January 13 by KentExile

[KentExile]

22 hours ago, riverholmes said:

Would be a big ask, but for me Garrett has potentially the attributes to be a useful left back, even if just as a back-up - a position he sometimes played as a youth player. I’d like to see him there for the U21s to see what he can do. 

Garrett hasn't played as a full back since U18s level.  If we still had JDT as manager with his full backs moving inside to create overloads in midfield, then I would be more inclined to agree, but I would be hesitant to rely on someone playing in a position that they have not featured in, at any level for close to 5 years

[KentExile]

Patrick Gambles loan at Fylde cut short, hardly a surprise, he hasn't got off the bench in over 2 months

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited January 14 by KentExile

[KentExile]

Starts tonight for

Olson - won 4-0

 

On the bench

Goddard - drew 1-1

 

Not involved in matchday squad

Markanday - drew 0-0 Chesterfield lost on penalties

Powell - drew 0-0

 

Rumors Markanday is about to be recalled from his loan at Chesterfield and loaned to Leyton Orient in League 1, which probably explains him not being included in Chesterfields squad.  Not sure why Powell isn't involved for Chorley, He has been a regular for them so far, and his loan doesn't expire until Jan 22nd, possibly he is ill or injured?

 

Edited January 15 by KentExile

[Tom]

Whoever is handling the outgoing loans doesn’t seem to be doing a very good job securing the right moves, or we’ve just got a bit of a lull in the talent we have in this batch.