January Transfer window

[Exiled_Rover]

45 minutes ago, DuffsLeftPeg said:

Lots of age snobbery on this thread despite most posters (myself included) being 40+

Can someone tell me with any authority why 33 means you’re past it? Wiemann is 33 but made some key contributions this season and his experience is invaluable. The Dingles have just signed Ashley Barnes who is 35. 

No-one is saying Forshaw is in his prime, or Sanderson is coming in as the next Ryan Nelsen, but there are different reasons for signing a player and Eustace clearly values experience. It is essential in this league.

Some people need to be realistic. We all know how our owners operate and they do not shell out cash in January (or at all 😂)  Lose the anger against them and set your expectations at the level we are at.

 

 

Because it's a young man's game. You lose athleticism (especially explosion) the older you get - otherwise Zidane would still be plying his trade. 

[Ferrit]

Forshaw isn’t a horrific signing for cover with Trav being injured, we desperately need a striker who actually scores a goal every now and again mind.

Edited January 11 by Ferrit

[Bbrovers2288]

With Sunderland doing ambitious things in the midfield , I would have thought an enquiry for Alan Browne might have been a bit more useful than Forshaw btw 

[Beanie01289]

not to bothered about these two signings gives us depth  in areas as long as the attacking areas are of more quality then these could be shrewd cover signings.

[TugaysMarlboro]

2 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

With Sunderland doing ambitious things in the midfield , I would have thought an enquiry for Alan Browne might have been a bit more useful than Forshaw btw 

Think he's out for some time.

[sharpysharps86]

37 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Because it's a young man's game. You lose athleticism (especially explosion) the older you get - otherwise Zidane would still be plying his trade. 

Zidane is 52 years old 😂.

Football Manager has ruined my perspective on ages of footballers. As soon as someone hits 30 in that game I drop them like a stone 😂.

[simongarnerisgod]

8 minutes ago, sharpysharps86 said:

Zidane is 52 years old 😂.

Football Manager has ruined my perspective on ages of footballers. As soon as someone hits 30 in that game I drop them like a stone 😂.

the problem with forshaw is he`s past it,his legs have gone and he`s permanently injured,it does`nt matter if a player is 35,if he`s still got his legs and injury free then it`s no problem,gordon cowans was in his middle thirties when he signed for us,but what a great signing,on the other hand,djorkaeff had nothing left when hughes signed him,it`s plain that forshaw is finished as a player,it`s a stupid signing,he won`t cover anybody because he wont be fit to play

[Trinidad Rover]

Danns at Liverpool looks good.

Get him in

[sharpysharps86]

1 minute ago, simongarnerisgod said:

the problem with forshaw is he`s past it,his legs have gone and he`s permanently injured,it does`nt matter if a player is 35,if he`s still got his legs and injury free then it`s no problem,gordon cowans was in his middle thirties when he signed for us,but what a great signing,on the other hand,djorkaeff had nothing left when hughes signed him,it`s plain that forshaw is finished as a player,it`s a stupid signing,he won`t cover anybody because he wont be fit to play

I don't recall saying Forshaw was a good signing. I agree with everything you've just said.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

5 minutes ago, Trinidad Rover said:

Danns at Liverpool looks good.

Get him in

Because he scored against a poor Accrington team? He could well be good in the future what we need is someone better than that 

[rovers11]

1 hour ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Loan of a lad who was relegated last season and now cant get in a League 1 side and a deal until the and of the season for a 33 year old who's had his contract cancelled by the side bottom of the table.

Waggott will be delighted to see the amount of positive and neutral reaction to these two fairly dire signings. Proves the Club can sign more or less anyone and get away with it.

Might even get away with signing no-one else if he chucks in the obligatory "January is a notoriously difficult window to do business in - we tried our best but it wasn't to be" after the window has finished.

Spot on. The expectation levels have been lowered so much by the current regime that some think Sanderson and Forshaw are OK signings. 

Constant downgrading of the squad and these are two more examples of that. 

The miracles Eustace is performing is papering over the cracks of a really poor squad that has no assets left and we've sold our best players and didn't re-invest a penny. 

Edited January 11 by rovers11

[Waggy76]

2 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

Sanderson I dont mind too much as a squad player who both now and for the season is just cover. And I rate the player much more than Forshaw. 

Forshaw is a really poor signing in a position where we need someone to play for the next month and then be immediate cover.

Whatever happened to the Centre Half, we were signing from Reading? 

Take it thats off, now! 

[KentExile]

2 minutes ago, Waggy76 said:

Whatever happened to the Centre Half, we were signing from Reading? 

Take it thats off, now! 

That would have cost a fee, was never on the cards

[Beanie01289]

4 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

Spot on. The expectation levels have been lowered so much by the current regime that some think Sanderson and Forshaw are OK signings. 

Constant downgrading of the squad and these are two more examples of that. 

The miracles Eustace is performing is papering over the cracks of a really poor squad that has no assets left and we've sold our best players and didn't re-invest a penny. 

disagree two signings for half a season that give us cover these are decent additions as long as it allows us to concentrate whatever ( if any) budget we have at the top end of the pitch.

[Tom]

One thing I will say in defense of the Forshaw signing, lots of clubs will bring in players like him to boost the numbers, it’s about who else we bring in.

Look at Ashley Barnes at Burnley; similar kind of scenario but they will back the manager with other signings 

[Neal]

8 minutes ago, Tom said:

One thing I will say in defense of the Forshaw signing, lots of clubs will bring in players like him to boost the numbers, it’s about who else we bring in.

Look at Ashley Barnes at Burnley; similar kind of scenario but they will back the manager with other signings 

This. It's all about who else we sign, we are good defensively and in midfield, we just lack a bit of depth. Attacking, we don't have enough goal threat. Batth was a similar signing to Forshaw, recently left Norwich, same age, fans said legs had gone. Not saying this as some sort of Maggot apologist, just trying to look at it for what it is. If this is all we have at the end of the window then it will be one of the worst. Personally I'd like to see them go for one permanent attacking player and a young prem loan. 

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

8 hours ago, BlackburnEnd75 said:

These are my thoughts also. 

I'm just praying we are holding back what little resources we have to get that winger / striker we need on loan. 

Both those signings need to be permanent.

 

[Tugayisgod]

JE on Mcfadzean .

Good luck to him, been a better signing than anyone could have imagined. Owe him a lot for last season performances at the death

 

Edited January 11 by Tugayisgod

[KentExile]

16 hours ago, Tugayisgod said:

JE on Mcfadzean .

Good luck to him, been a better signing than anyone could have imagined. Owe him a lot for last season performances at the death

 

This makes the Forshaw signing make a lot more sense, another experienced head to "warm up" during the match and coach the younger heads

Edited January 12 by KentExile

[AJW]

Let’s face it Forshaw is a terrible signing doesn’t matter that the rationale is he is cheap cover … Buckley and JRC are even cheaper cover and trust me , if he is not good enough to play in a shit Plymouth team he is not a better option than Buckley and  JRC it’s just a waste of the precious little money we have

[islander200]

50 minutes ago, rovers11 said:

Spot on. The expectation levels have been lowered so much by the current regime that some think Sanderson and Forshaw are OK signings. 

Constant downgrading of the squad and these are two more examples of that. 

The miracles Eustace is performing is papering over the cracks of a really poor squad that has no assets left and we've sold our best players and didn't re-invest a penny. 

Why isn't Sanderson a good signing of a 4th choice centre back?

He has been brought in as cover.Do Hyam or Batth need to be out of the team?Is Carter going to be back in February?

Nobody is saying he is going to fire us to promotion but as another option at the back then I don't see the problem?

We need first team players in up front and I'm sorry but not many if any non parachute payment clubs have 4 top class centre backs in their squads. What where you expecting us to spend? who to bring in as potentially 4th choice and the overall budget we likely have.

Eustace obviously rates him 

[MB Rover]

17 minutes ago, KentExile said:

This makes the Forshaw signing make a lot more sense, another experienced head on "warm up" during the match and coach the younger heads

Is that not the coaches job? Sunderland seem fine without an ‘experienced’ head during warm ups. 

[RTM08]

2 hours ago, DeeCee said:

Shoot me.

Sorry, I typed a comment on the match too, I replaced mine with wrong thread, I wasn't having a go 😅

[Torgeir]

Sanderson makes sense. Low risk move for him and us, and he has worked under Eustace prior so they know what to expect from each other. 

Forshaw I don't mind, but if he's here to be backup we have to rely on him being fit - that's a problem when over half the time he isn't! Downgrade from Baker imo, but Baker looked like his legs had gone (too).

Can only see Kitching happening if he's cheap, and we need LB cover. I doubt it will happen now.

Striker/winger please. Any names?

[TugaysMarlboro]

17 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

Sanderson makes sense. Low risk move for him and us, and he has worked under Eustace prior so they know what to expect from each other. 

Forshaw I don't mind, but if he's here to be backup we have to rely on him being fit - that's a problem when over half the time he isn't! Downgrade from Baker imo, but Baker looked like his legs had gone (too).

Can only see Kitching happening if he's cheap, and we need LB cover. I doubt it will happen now.

Striker/winger please. Any names?

Let's hope whatever names get brought in, it's where all the money is spent.