January Transfer window

[wilsdenrover]

35 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Don't you have to pay for the crap he churns out on Patreon though? I think that was the point being made.

I think the point being made was far cruder than that 🤨

[Forever Blue]

Just now, roverandout said:

I'm just carrying on the conversation that u said we don't need pace

I didn’t say that. 

[MB Rover]

Not overly against Wallace if it’s him plus another, like is well known our own CEO said we were targeting pace and power, Eustace the same. He doesn’t have either but is a decent player still. 

Bamford on the other hand, I’ve been to/had to sit through a lot of Leeds games due to living here and they absolutely despise him. And rightly so, he’s shit.

[roverandout]

Just now, Forever Blue said:

I didn’t say that. 

Fair enough but you said we need players that fit into Eustace's system. Jed Wallace isn't the answer.  We should be looking for wingers who can stretch the play. We have enough 'Jed wallace's ' on the wing

[BankEnd Rover]

9 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Sigh. 
 

maybe we’ll get both. 
 

nobody has ever said that we are only signing 2 more players. We might sign 4. We might sign 6. It might be Wallace and 5 Olympic sprinters. 
 

 

It's more than likely we're not going to recruit more than 1 LW and 1 centre forward so basing the topic on that Wallace is not what we should be looking at. You seem to base a lot of things on what Eustace wants, fair enough but how do you know it's what he wants? Just because it's in writing? 
 

The whole team lacks any pace, we are dull, we need some edge, any winger we look at needs to be direct and quick and ideally a resale value. 

[BankEnd Rover]

3 minutes ago, MB Rover said:

Not overly against Wallace if it’s him plus another, like is well known our own CEO said we were targeting pace and power, Eustace the same. He doesn’t have either but is a decent player still. 

Bamford on the other hand, I’ve been to/had to sit through a lot of Leeds games due to living here and they absolutely despise him. And rightly so, he’s shit.

We are working on buttons, Wallace will cost, do you really think we'll will bring in 2 wingers? 

[Forever Blue]

Just now, roverandout said:

Fair enough but you said we need players that fit into Eustace's system. Jed Wallace isn't the answer.  We should be looking for wingers who can stretch the play. We have enough 'Jed wallace's ' on the wing

You don’t know anything about Wallace if you think he’s like our other ‘wingers’. 

And I gave reasons why he was a Eustace player. Unlike you and others I don’t just dismiss players with sweeping statements that can’t be proved. 
 

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

It's more than likely we're not going to recruit more than 1 LW and 1 centre forward so basing the topic on that Wallace is not what we should be looking at. You seem to base a lot of things on what Eustace wants, fair enough but how do you know it's what he wants? Just because it's in writing? 
 

The whole team lacks any pace, we are dull, we need some edge, any winger we look at needs to be direct and quick and ideally a resale value. 

Tbf how do you know Eustace doesn’t want him?

[Forever Blue]

2 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

It's more than likely we're not going to recruit more than 1 LW and 1 centre forward so basing the topic on that Wallace is not what we should be looking at. You seem to base a lot of things on what Eustace wants, fair enough but how do you know it's what he wants? Just because it's in writing? 
 

The whole team lacks any pace, we are dull, we need some edge, any winger we look at needs to be direct and quick and ideally a resale value. 

So you’ve decided we aren’t going to sign anyone else so we can only judge Wallace on that basis. 
 

What’s the fucking point 🤣

[BankEnd Rover]

Just now, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Tbf how do you know Eustace doesn’t want him?

lol Im not saying he doesn't...But some posters are going off the gospel that Eustace wants a certain type of player, just because Alan Nixon has said so.

[CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber]

Just now, Forever Blue said:

So you’ve decided we aren’t going to sign anyone else so we can only judge Wallace on that basis. 
 

What’s the fucking point 🤣

You're going to have a long January if you try and make sense of this place 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, BankEnd Rover said:

lol Im not saying he doesn't...But some posters are going off the gospel that Eustace wants a certain type of player, just because Alan Nixon has said so.

That’s fair yes and I’m in agreement actually until Nixon exclusively breaks something that comes to fruition then I’m standing by earlier posts that he is no longer in the know 

but I do concede that Jed Wallace screams a John Eustace signing 

but I don’t think either are true or even realistic 

[roversfan99]

12 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Wallace at his peak never had any pace so you’ve negated your own argument. 

We need pace now.

If it was Jed Wallace at his peak or anywhere close, then he would be a great signing in spite of not being the quickest just because he was so good at this level.

He has never been particularly quick but he certainly had half a yard to be able to get past a full back to get a cross in. Hes on the decline now and not the player he was.

He is also on massive wages having got a huge contract when he signed on a free.

[bluebruce]

32 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

I probably didn’t explain it very well - hopefully the following details will help (if not I’ll try again!!)

For court number 8 (the one the Venkys case is list for):

Cases 1-9 are described as ‘for admission’

Cases 10 - 58 are ‘after case misc matters’

Cases 59 and 60 are ‘final matters’

There are then a couple of further categories after that.

 

 

 

Thanks. Do they hear them in strictly numerical order do you know?

[Forever Blue]

1 minute ago, BankEnd Rover said:

lol Im not saying he doesn't...But some posters are going off the gospel that Eustace wants a certain type of player, just because Alan Nixon has said so.

Again, you’re wrong. I was discussing Wallace in the context of why I think He is a Eustace player. Nothing to do with Nixon. Try and engage with what is being said. 

[martonrover]

2 minutes ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

You're going to have a long January if you try and make sense of this place 

Welcome to Sunday’s edition of “He’s shit and we don’t want him / Nixon is evil” 😉

[Forever Blue]

1 minute ago, roversfan99 said:

We need pace now.

If it was Jed Wallace at his peak or anywhere close, then he would be a great signing in spite of not being the quickest just because he was so good at this level.

He has never been particularly quick but he certainly had half a yard to be able to get past a full back to get a cross in. Hes on the decline now and not the player he was.

He is also on massive wages having got a huge contract when he signed on a free.

So we shouldn’t sign any players if they haven’t got ‘pace’, even if they are going to improve us? 

And if can’t get pace ‘now’ should we also not sign anyone else? 

[BigHoz]

Just like to reiterate bamford is out injured for 4 weeks. How fit is he? Chances of him getting injured again? Do we want players now? Ridiculous link. 

[Herbie6590]

5 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

Thanks. Do they hear them in strictly numerical order do you know?

There is a thread dedicated to this BTW…

 

[Forever Blue]

5 minutes ago, CrouchingNunhiddenCucumber said:

You're going to have a long January if you try and make sense of this place 

 

1 minute ago, martonrover said:

Welcome to Sunday’s edition of “He’s shit and we don’t want him / Nixon is evil” 😉

Quite. 

[MB Rover]

14 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

We are working on buttons, Wallace will cost, do you really think we'll will bring in 2 wingers? 

Nope 🤣

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

So we shouldn’t sign any players if they haven’t got ‘pace’, even if they are going to improve us? 

And if can’t get pace ‘now’ should we also not sign anyone else? 

I never said that. I just think that Jed Wallace wouldnt be a particularly good signing now, he would have been incredible 2 or 3 seasons ago. Im not convinced the Wallace of today would improve us. Hes also on a big contract.

If we say bought a quick winger, loaned in Jed Wallace and sold one or two of the plodders have, say Sigurdsson and Hedges. Then that would work. But I cant see that happening.

[G Somerset Rover]

1 hour ago, Tugayisgod said:

Wasn't the transfer policy at one time to only sign players under 26 so that they had a sell on value in the future ( if any good)

Now it seems the policy is signing players over 30 or more. I know these are only  possibilities and names being thrown about but no more please. Schlupp perhaps but that's it

Yep, the ‘model’ changes like the wind. Just continuous muddled thinking. We’ll be back to ‘resale value only’ again before the year is out.

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Forever Blue said:

So we shouldn’t sign any players if they haven’t got ‘pace’, even if they are going to improve us? 

And if can’t get pace ‘now’ should we also not sign anyone else? 

Until we've seen him play , whether or not he would improve us is purely a matter of opinion. That seems to be a simple concept you are unable to get your head round so you revert  to your usual being objectionable to other posters.

I'd say that the benchmark for any signings this window has to be that they'd make enough of a difference to give us a real chance of going up via the play offs. I fail to see how Wallace would do that.

That again is my opinion that no doubt you will disagree with.

[G Somerset Rover]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

How are Wallace and Bamford past it at aged 30 and 31? 

So who should we be signing then? What RF99 plan(or anyone) plan? Who should we be targeting? 

Someone with pace Chaddy, what we’ve been crying out for, for about 5 years now.

Edited January 12 by G Somerset Rover