January Transfer window

[London blue]

1 minute ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Take no notice of them.

Aye you're right.

[Torgeir]

18 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

He hasn't played that many games, he's just fragile.

That’s what I meant. 

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

1 hour ago, Wing Wizard Windy Miller said:

Club is rudderless.  Waggott on record at the end of last summer stating pace, power and resilience needs adding to the squad.  That will be the focus for recruitment.  

Still waiting for the first 2 and Wallace/Bamford won't bring either.   

Still doesn't look like a penny will be spent in fees in Jan.  No permanent signings.  

Just a collection of players, who at this stage of their career, are injury prone journey men.  

What's the point of any kind of recruitment/scouting team?

Team doing well,ambitious Manager,Crowds up and interested.

Just looking like further confirmation the Dullards running our Club have zero interest in Promotion..for whatever inexplicable and possibly nefarious reason that may be.Go figure.

Rinse and repeat.

Edited January 12 by SIMON GARNERS 194

[roversfan99]

43 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I would actually suggested you look at the players we have been linked like Wallace, Kitching, Bamford, Schlupp. They are experience players and also factoring our 2 signings are both experience at this level. So maybe that a clue what Eustace wants in terms of signings, also factoring in 12 months ago we were younger players, now we aren't, under Eustace is about now and the present. 

Would you been in favour of signings Danns from Liverpool on loan for the season as striker signing in this window? 

If you can't see its Eustace pushing for experience signings then fine, I will leave it there. 

 

I'm surprised cos we all know you love to write players off based on fans opinions

stronger opinion based on what? Plymouth fans opinions? 

who says Sanderson is 4th choice? 

Thomas Asante hasn't had the best time at Coventry but at WBA his record was better than 1 goals in 4 games. So yes he would be on my shortlist as would be Emil Riis. 

firstly, who says they are loans? 

secondly, my problem was your comments on Wallace and Bamford being has been players at the age 30 and 31 years old. 

thirdly and to answer your question, is depends if we sign Bamford and he was fit for every game. This season has been injury one and for that reason I would say no to that deal but what do I know about injuries 

 

I don't think its about all about pace an if we sign this pacey player everything is great. 

I want a striker who can score goals, hold the ball up and get us those crucial goals. 

I have never doubted that Eustace might well be pushing for experience.

I am saying that whoever wants experience, I dont think that is the primary thing that we need. Our team has quite a bit, contrary to when it didnt use to and you used to say it had (plus leadership) by saying Dolan has this many games, Pickering has had this many games etc. We need athleticism, we need pace and we need goals in my opinion. Our side is steady, organised, solid but flat, slow, lacking energy, lacking ideas.

I have also never totally written off a signing prior to him playing. I have no doubt disagreed with a signing that has gone on to prove me wrong or been happy with a signing that has gone on to prove me wrong and stink the place out. I dont think thats unhealthy. If Forshaw comes in and does well, then great and I will praise him accordingly. You can have a negative opinion of a signing rather than just blindly trusting that its right. Weve made plenty that arent right.

My expectation of what should happen is for us to invest in the attack. Buy a winger, buy a striker, I dont know who. Then maybe a loan or two on top, left back cover, another midfielder, whatever.

Jayden Danns looks a talent and at least hes fit. But hes a young kid who has barely played any football. If we bought a striker and then loaned Danns as well, maybe. If not, then it wouldnt suggest that promotion was the aim.

If we just get in a couple of older heads in attack on the cheap, players past their peak (not just age, take the 2 weve been linked with, their best days are behind them) I expect any play off push to soon fizzle out.

[Ghost7]

I can understand the hesitation with Brereton since we saw so many years of him being poor

[Ghost7]

But realistically we aren't in a position to turn down players like that... or sign them!

[MarkBRFC]

Kaide Gordon being recalled from Norwich by Liverpool.

Definitely the kind of loan I could see us being interested in.

[M_B]

59 minutes ago, Dreams of 1995 said:

Yep. I agree he is a bellend. Heard from a number of people who have worked with him that he’s a bit like marmite. Posh boy irritates some people

But as a footballer, he’s good. He is better than what we have. Given a run of games as the main man then I reckon he will show his quality

He is annoying, other fans will say the same about Cantwell. I could actually see Bamford making the runs that Cantwell is crying out for.

We've got the foreign wildcards in the squad, I could see the logic in bringing in experienced, belt and braces Championship players.

I'm reading that trying to sign the likes of Bamford, Brereton and Wallace is evidence of the club not going for it. To me it would suggest the opposite, proven players don't come cheap, it would be a completely different January window to normal.

[SIMON GARNERS 194]

14 minutes ago, Ghost7 said:

I can understand the hesitation with Brereton since we saw so many years of him being poor

At first I baulked at this but lets face reality,he's miles better than anyone playing upfront for us right now.

[jim mk2]

51 minutes ago, London blue said:

I have to say I can't stand our fanbase on twitter.

Rovers fans on Facebook are the same with regards to Venky's - think they can do no wrong

As for Twitter/X best to give it a miss altogether.  And Facebook now for that matter after Zuckerberg's announcement last week. They're unregulated cesspits

 

[jim mk2]

4 minutes ago, M_B said:

He is annoying, other fans will say the same about Cantwell. I could actually see Bamford making the runs that Cantwell is crying out for.

That's how I'd think we'd benefit - 2 intelligent footballers working together who'd open up defences. All supposition though - isn't Bamford injured yet again?  

[JHRover]

I think you are a generous person if you assume that the Indians know anything about what is happening in the Championship this season, or last, or the one before that. My view is they simply don't know what is happening, much less that they care or think it is their job to do something in response.

Personally I don't think they know from one month to the next what is happening. I bet they haven't watched a game yet this season. First, seventh, seventeenth or twenty fourth it matters not one iota to them. Waggott and Pasha would of course have a sweat on if it was the latter, not because of any sporting performance/targets but because relegation would jeopardise their cushy numbers at the annual review. 

They're at the stage of underwriting the losses if/when they have to but forcing the likes of Waggott to try to minimise that by selling players and cutting costs.

This would be a sensible and expected course of action if it was paving the way for selling the club. Get costs and input to a bare minimum until you find someone to take it off your hands. But we know it isn't. This lot won't even entertain the potential for a sale.

If a sale isn't on the agenda and yet you find yourself in the promotion shake up it is unbelievable that they make no effort to improve or break into the top 6. Yet that's the reality of where we are.

Each year that goes by the Venky myth gets further pulled to pieces. People used to say they would invest if we got to January in with a shot of promotion, which was proven to not be the case. People used to say they are waiting for us to get back to the PL before they sell or try and claw their money back, but they clearly have no interest in getting there.

It is so crazy that it inevitably leads to another theory which is that they, or their underlings, have the club exactly where they want it and are going to do nothing to to try and change it. 

The failings and inertia of 2022, 2023 and 2024 have been blamed on all sorts. Not having enough money, FFP, Mowbray deciding not to spend, secretary having amnesia, Broughton going for dinner in Manchester, not pressing send, Waggott bizarrely going to watch us at Birmingham rather than being at Brockhall sorting it out, yet the longer it goes on the more clear it becomes that all these things are just made up excuses to achieve one thing and one thing only - to keep the focus away from the Indians. 

That's all it does yet they are the one constant above all this.

 

[M_B]

12 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

That's how I'd think we'd benefit - 2 intelligent footballers working together who'd open up defences. All supposition though - isn't Bamford injured yet again?  

Don't know to be honest, but like you, I could see the logic.

 

[Paul Mani]

Funny…

I’m at home watching the Arsenal vs Man U match and my wife just sent me this.

PS - Celia is our 8yr old daughter.

My work here is done 💙

Edited January 12 by Paul Mani

[RevidgeBlue]

17 minutes ago, M_B said:

I'm reading that trying to sign the likes of Bamford, Brereton and Wallace is evidence of the club not going for it. To me it would suggest the opposite, proven players don't come cheap, it would be a completely different January window to normal.

When people criticise those potential signings the defence is, it's only media speculation, they might not be the real targets at all.

Same thing applies to your reverse argument. Need to see if any of them land before you can compliment the Club on being ambitious.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, M_B said:

Don't know to be honest, but like you, I could see the logic.

 

Did his hamstring last week

is on 35k per week

consistently injured this last 3 years

out of form is an understatement

if all our eggs are in the bamford basket we should just give up now  

[M_B]

7 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

When people criticise those potential signings the defence is, it's only media speculation, they might not be the real targets at all.

Same thing applies to your reverse argument. Need to see if any of them land before you can compliment the Club on being ambitious.

That isn't their defence at all, read back and see how much negativity there is to each individual player.

[Rover1984]

33 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

Kaide Gordon being recalled from Norwich by Liverpool.

Definitely the kind of loan I could see us being interested in.

A player I thought we were going to get in the summer

[M_B]

5 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Did his hamstring last week

is on 35k per week

consistently injured this last 3 years

out of form is an understatement

if all our eggs are in the bamford basket we should just give up now  

Didn't realise he was injured, but the logic still applies.

[roversfan99]

We always end up back to people calling out supposed negativity.

And I imagine there isa lot of frustration around because we never have the budget in spite of sales to get what we need to achieve our objectives.

Obviously all of the linked players might be total bollocks, we are discussing the players in question as if we are signing them just to stimulate some conversation.

[magicalmortensleftpeg]

Surprised people are seriously considering the Brereton rumour. He’s not coming. Better teams are linked and he won’t want to come back here. It’s just lazy journalism. 

[Nic81]

10 minutes ago, M_B said:

That isn't their defence at all, read back and see how much negativity there is to each individual player.

It is the defence to the link to a player sometimes, not necessarily the player themselves. 

[chaddyrovers]

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I have never doubted that Eustace might well be pushing for experience.

I am saying that whoever wants experience, I dont think that is the primary thing that we need. Our team has quite a bit, contrary to when it didnt use to and you used to say it had (plus leadership) by saying Dolan has this many games, Pickering has had this many games etc. We need athleticism, we need pace and we need goals in my opinion. Our side is steady, organised, solid but flat, slow, lacking energy, lacking ideas.

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

I have also never totally written off a signing prior to him playing. I have no doubt disagreed with a signing that has gone on to prove me wrong or been happy with a signing that has gone on to prove me wrong and stink the place out. I dont think thats unhealthy. If Forshaw comes in and does well, then great and I will praise him accordingly. You can have a negative opinion of a signing rather than just blindly trusting that its right. Weve made plenty that arent right.

ok

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

My expectation of what should happen is for us to invest in the attack. Buy a winger, buy a striker, I dont know who. Then maybe a loan or two on top, left back cover, another midfielder, whatever.

I think one striker and wide player, then that's us done. 

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Jayden Danns looks a talent and at least hes fit. But hes a young kid who has barely played any football. If we bought a striker and then loaned Danns as well, maybe. If not, then it wouldnt suggest that promotion was the aim.

What point of loaning Danns to to be squad player, Why not just keep Harry Leonard, who I would keep here even if we sign another striker. I'm not in favour of signing someone like Danns as our main striker signing this window. not for me. 

17 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

If we just get in a couple of older heads in attack on the cheap, players past their peak (not just age, take the 2 weve been linked with, their best days are behind them) I expect any play off push to soon fizzle out.

How are Wallace and Bamford best days behind them and what is that based on? 

[Exiled_Rover]

44 minutes ago, SIMON GARNERS 194 said:

At first I baulked at this but lets face reality,he's miles better than anyone playing upfront for us right now.

He was, a few years ago. He's washed as a player now. 

[RevidgeBlue]

12 minutes ago, M_B said:

That isn't their defence at all, read back and see how much negativity there is to each individual player.

Personally I wouldn't want Bamford or Wallace at all. As Bamford would be very expensive I'd concede that showed ambition albeit completely misguided imo. 

Wallace as a main signing I'd say would be very unambitious. As a straight swap for Sigurdsson to add squad depth I'd be OK with it however.

Brereton I'd be OK with and I'd say it was a fairly ambitious move. All irrelevant until we land any of them though.