January Transfer window

[AJW]

9 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

Given how well Eustace knows Sanderson from his Birmingham, given he signed him for Birmingham, and made him his captain there

 

 

“Get me down there” …. Surely from Birmigham it should have been get me UP there 

 

hope his positional awareness on the pitch is better than his positional awareness of the country 

[martonrover]

3 minutes ago, AJW said:

“Get me down there” …. Surely from Birmigham it should have been get me UP there

Perhaps he travelled by train.

Any lines heading in the general direction of London are known as the "Up" lines, and vice versa, (okay, I'm probably being kind 🙂 ).

[Emerald Isle Rover]

For all the brownie points Eustace has gained liking and having bamford on the list is a real concern

’ I played with him before’

i don’t like this line it’s not 10 years ago. The last 3/4 seasons his injuries have got worse and his form/stats have declined by the numbers 

experience line also now is getting a tad tedious how much experience do we need?

define experience? We have plenty on that group with loads and loads of experience 

[bluebruce]

36 minutes ago, AJW said:

“Get me down there” …. Surely from Birmigham it should have been get me UP there 

 

hope his positional awareness on the pitch is better than his positional awareness of the country 

Not to mention he's going up a league 

[Paul Mani]

I like this mornings article. That’s the first time he’s intimated his confidence in the expected signings.

There is a line in there also where he says he’d accept experience and pedigree from elsewhere which makes me think there’s potential targets abroad.

For me, the discussion around Bamford and Wallace were just him answering a question and using the personal information he has.

Fwiw - Eustace obviously highlighted our lack of leaders as being one of the key problems when he came in. He’s addressed it in some ways by bringing Travis back, Weimann, Batth and Mcfadz in. But he’s probably looking at the levels of quality we have vs the other promotion contenders, looking at his budget vs theirs and thinking “the only way we go up is by going to war” which makes having his generals more and more important.

Last thing - I am friends with a couple of the lads who got Rovers promoted out of the championship with Souness. It’s well known that the manager barely ever had to even get involved because the dressing room, standards, behaviour and games were managed by the leaders - Flitcroft, Short etc.

I think JE is leaning into this methodology too.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

10 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

I like this mornings article. That’s the first time he’s intimated his confidence in the expected signings.

There is a line in there also where he says he’d accept experience and pedigree from elsewhere which makes me think there’s potential targets abroad.

For me, the discussion around Bamford and Wallace were just him answering a question and using the personal information he has.

Fwiw - Eustace obviously highlighted our lack of leaders as being one of the key problems when he came in. He’s addressed it in some ways by bringing Travis back, Weimann, Batth and Mcfadz in. But he’s probably looking at the levels of quality we have vs the other promotion contenders, looking at his budget vs theirs and thinking “the only way we go up is by going to war” which makes having his generals more and more important.

Last thing - I am friends with a couple of the lads who got Rovers promoted out of the championship with Souness. It’s well known that the manager barely ever had to even get involved because the dressing room, standards, behaviour and games were managed by the leaders - Flitcroft, Short etc.

I think JE is leaning into this methodology too.

This squad doesn’t have a duff / Dunn / Jansen / bent - that’s the issue 

you can have all the generals you want but you need that quality up top to win the tight games or to bail you out when not performing we were joint second highest scorers that season 

it’s all well and good having a good structure good cohesion it’s brilliant in fact but the next step has to be the quality to get us over the line when it matters

bamford isn’t that guy - he was 2/3 years ago but he’s not that player anymore 

[alex l]

I'm sure Roy Keane has said similar regarding the Utd dressing room he captained. Yeah everyone knows of Fergie's hairdryer but once he had earned the respect of the club, it was the players who carried those standards day to day. 

[Torgeir]

https://motleedsnews.com/comment/leeds-united-look-set-to-make-patrick-bamford-mistake-as-exit-stance-shared/

Anyone think Bamford is worth £30k/w?

[Atko's Engine]

11 hours ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Yea there’s that no doubt I just think the club should have targeted the block of games starting wed night. A favourable set of fixtures (on paper) and tried to give us the best chance possible with little to no excuses

now we could get 4/6 or 6/6 points this week no problem but my fear is that if we don’t or lose one or pick up way less than expected (for me anything under 4 is poor) it’s likely due to lack of firepower in the team 

I personally just think this block is the most important of the season if by Feb we are in or still within touching distance of playoffs then class and hopefully by then we have the 2 in

but if we continue this poor run of form we could also be out of it and the two players coming in itl be too late in my eyes

That's all well & good but this block of games didn't include the first of them a month ago; plus, back then, we didn't know anything about injuries to Travis, Pickering or Ohashi, or the recall of Baker, which have had to be bumped up the agenda.

Add this to the general uncertainty of when players come available for loan or transfer, especially at the end of a crazy amount of games in a shirt space of time & with cup games on the horizon when managers play fringe players & rotate their squads more, it means we can't just dictate what happens from our own scouting booth; there's a lot of moving parts that we have little control over.

[danger19_80]

8 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

This squad doesn’t have a duff / Dunn / Jansen / bent - that’s the issue 

This squad doesn't even have a Berkovic 

[Paul Mani]

9 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

This squad doesn’t have a duff / Dunn / Jansen / bent - that’s the issue 

you can have all the generals you want but you need that quality up top to win the tight games or to bail you out when not performing we were joint second highest scorers that season 

it’s all well and good having a good structure good cohesion it’s brilliant in fact but the next step has to be the quality to get us over the line when it matters

bamford isn’t that guy - he was 2/3 years ago but he’s not that player anymore 

True - but if you were the manager and you knew the club didn’t have the money to provide a Duff or Dunn, you would probably lean harder on the Shorts and Flitcroft types to get you over the line.

I’m not saying we don’t need that quality up top mate. I’m providing a reason as to why the manger is harping on and on about leadership and character.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

4 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

That's all well & good but this block of games didn't include the first of them a month ago; plus, back then, we didn't know anything about injuries to Travis, Pickering or Ohashi, or the recall of Baker, which have had to be bumped up the agenda.

Add this to the general uncertainty of when players come available for loan or transfer, especially at the end of a crazy amount of games in a shirt space of time & with cup games on the horizon when managers play fringe players & rotate their squads more, it means we can't just dictate what happens from our own scouting booth; there's a lot of moving parts that we have little control over.

Take Pompey game out it’s still and extremely important block of fixtures 

baker being recalled certainly wasn’t on the club - doesn’t mean from sept to now they shouldn’t have had targets in mind?

we should just have a 10 day window then really what’s the point in these first 14 days 

[roversfan99]

Im not sure Bamford or Jed Wallace are generals that will take you to war.

Good attacking players in their day but on the decline, and Bamford always injured including for the next month.

Edited January 14 by roversfan99

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

14 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

https://motleedsnews.com/comment/leeds-united-look-set-to-make-patrick-bamford-mistake-as-exit-stance-shared/

Anyone think Bamford is worth £30k/w?

His mum ?

[Emerald Isle Rover]

2 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

True - but if you were the manager and you knew the club didn’t have the money to provide a Duff or Dunn, you would probably lean harder on the Shorts and Flitcroft types to get you over the line.

I’m not saying we don’t need that quality up top mate. I’m providing a reason as to why the manger is harping on and on about leadership and character.

He’s also harped on about the need for quality and I’m concerned with his quotes re bamford 

I used to play with him and he was quality - true but that was years ago - I’d also say he doesn’t provide much of a presence in the dressing room by all accounts he keeps himself to himself so I’m baffled by the link to be quite frank.

if we as a club cannot try to do better than an injured/injury prone and declining bamford we should just shut up shop now 

[Nic81]

6 hours ago, bluebruce said:

The rumours at the time were that Eustace was Waggott's man. If so, it must be the only useful thing he has done in his whole tenure. A stopped clock is right twice a day and all that, I guess.

This is actually the only thing that has given me hope that we will get players in. The quality of those players is another matter. 

[Nic81]

6 hours ago, bluebruce said:

 

Edited January 14 by Nic81
Double post

[davulsukur]

39 minutes ago, Torgeir said:

https://motleedsnews.com/comment/leeds-united-look-set-to-make-patrick-bamford-mistake-as-exit-stance-shared/

Anyone think Bamford is worth £30k/w?

Not even close. Exactly why we should be avoiding him. Injury prone, past his best, poor finisher and wants high wages. 

There must be a much better use of our limited resources than Bamford.

[RoversClitheroe]

8 minutes ago, davulsukur said:

Not even close. Exactly why we should be avoiding him. Injury prone, past his best, poor finisher and wants high wages. 

There must be a much better use of our limited resources than Bamford.

Leeds fans absolutely hate him

[joey_big_nose]

I'll reserve judgement on Buckley until he gets a run of games. He's only played 134 mins for us in the Championship this season across 8 very short sub appearences.... and last season only played 500 odd minutes.

He's got a chance to come in and make a big impression over the next few games till Travis is available, so looking forward to him making a big impact. I think Eustace is interested in getting the most out of him, that is why he was made captain in the league cup games. 

[booth]

51 minutes ago, danger19_80 said:

This squad doesn't even have a Berkovic 

Plenty of Berks in the boardroom.

[paullarrygher]

1 hour ago, AJW said:

“Get me down there” …. Surely from Birmigham it should have been get me UP there 

 

hope his positional awareness on the pitch is better than his positional awareness of the country 

From the Robbie Savage School of Birmingham/Blackburn geography.

[MarkBRFC]

53 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

True - but if you were the manager and you knew the club didn’t have the money to provide a Duff or Dunn, you would probably lean harder on the Shorts and Flitcroft types to get you over the line.

I don't accept that we "don't have the money".

We should have the money after the past 18 months and we are also being told repeatedly that there is no impediment to funding.

We are choosing not to spend it.

[KentExile]

6 minutes ago, MarkBRFC said:

I don't accept that we "don't have the money".

We should have the money after the past 18 months and we are also being told repeatedly that there is no impediment to funding.

We are choosing not to spend it.

Even worse than that.  We are choosing not to spend it during a narrow window (which ends 3 years after the sale of Adam Wharton) when profit & sustainability/FFP/whatever would not be an issue due to the money brought in over the past 18 months

Edited January 14 by KentExile

[roverblue]

1 minute ago, MarkBRFC said:

I don't accept that we "don't have the money".

We should have the money after the past 18 months and we are also being told repeatedly that there is no impediment to funding.

We are choosing not to spend it.

Agree, since this court case the annual £20m has stopped and it seems that we are keeping hold of any money that we bring in to cover it. For how long this lasts who knows? It will run out eventually and force the issue but could be a bleak few more windows yet.

The 'no impediment' is total nonsense they haven't sent a penny since it started.