January Transfer window

[BankEnd Rover]

Dolan & Hedges poor again tonight and both soo slow. Need some fresh legs in ASAP! 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

If I thought we would actually reinvest I’d be accepting offers for Dolan no problem 

but we won’t so we’re caught that way 

[BRFC4EVA]

For the love of God back the man Venkys you C U Next TuesdayS!!! Mid Jan and he has this bunch of missfits in 5th ffs!!

[Torgeir]

2 minutes ago, BankEnd Rover said:

Dolan & Hedges poor again tonight and both soo slow. Need some fresh legs in ASAP! 

Hedges looks short on confidence, that pass to Beck in the first was atrocious. Both him and Dolan are in the team because they work hard but we can find better.

[Wing Wizard Windy Miller]

Coventry seem to be the new Boro in terms of signing links.  

[jny]

1 minute ago, Torgeir said:

Hedges looks short on confidence, that pass to Beck in the first was atrocious. Both him and Dolan are in the team because they work hard but we can find better.

Hedges is shite and (bar that one amazing goal) has always been shite

[Trinidad Rover]

9 minutes ago, neophox said:

Why would Coventry sell him.... they bought him in august.

Because he isn’t very good.

[roversfan99]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

You are so very quick to dismiss links to players has been not good enough or has been. 

 

If we had based signings on fans opinions, we never signed Gestede or Szmodics for example 

Who is natural finisher at championship level? 

1 in 4 at West Brom plus he didn't always start up front there. 12 goals for championship team a season is good enough. Delap never did that in the Championship once. Now playing PL football 

Ok. I think he is good signing if it happens 

Its not even as if I have said that Thomas Asante is not good enough. I gave a mixture of positives and negatives. But he is not a natural goalscorer, he is not a particularly good finisher. I also said he is quick, he will press and he will probably be our best striker and youve dismissed that and are talking as if I have said he is a waste of space.

The thing is, you are totally close minded when we sign someone and never say you are worried he doesnt have this or this isnt great etc. For example, youve picked out only the best season out of the 2 and a half hes had and dismissed the ones when he didnt do as "well."

And you speak as if we should purposely sign players that have had criticism at former clubs or who have struggled, based on the minority of examples where theyve suddenly come good. Its not an exact science, but if a player has struggled at a previous club, to most people it raises alarm bells. I have always said that I will judge them in a Rovers shirt, and if I have been underwhelmed by a signing, if they have gone on to do well ie Szmodics I have praised them. But I dont see the problem in raising concerns. It doesnt have to be all positive.

[neophox]

Robbie Matondo was linked coming here in the summer...

[Ossydave]

23 minutes ago, neophox said:

Time for Unleaded and TommyRovers to show up!

Unleaded maybe, Tommy has never got anything right...

[simongarnerisgod]

28 minutes ago, neophox said:

have you changed your thoughts on Gueye after tonight?

not really,i like gueye for his effort and attitude but his football skills are limited,but there are plenty of players who lack the skill but make up for it with hard work

[RoversClitheroe]

Sell Dolan

[TugaysMarlboro]

In true boredom at the lack of links, I've followed @B16Rover's lead and searched for any half decent goalscorer, in a half decent league, who we might be in a position to take a punt on.

I've since watched one YouTube video and he is of course, our ticket to the top 6.

 

Step forward, Thibault Klidjé

Edited January 15 by TugaysMarlboro

[davulsukur]

5 hours ago, K-Hod said:

Sure that’s Mercer’s Twitter 😅.

Genuinely? 😂😂😂

[Neal]

What's the point in Thomas Asante?? No resale value, Gueye is a better target man and possibly a better goal scorer. Just simply not what we need. I'd argue in Gueye we have physicality, in Ohashi we have graft what we don't have is PACE, someone who can run in behind and break lines. 

 

For me, the players we've been linked with that are the types we we need are Kargbo, Matondo & Godo. Direct wide players that can run in behind. That would help big Mac and give him some support, the reality is he's a link up player that will get more assists than goals, so let's make the most of that and get goals from out wide... 

 

We need to be looking for our poor man's versions of Mbuemo & Wissa... Not another big CF. 

Edited January 15 by Neal

[Exiled_Rover]

 

Hope that's one we lose.

 

[chaddyrovers]

48 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Its not even as if I have said that Thomas Asante is not good enough. I gave a mixture of positives and negatives. But he is not a natural goalscorer, he is not a particularly good finisher. I also said he is quick, he will press and he will probably be our best striker and youve dismissed that and are talking as if I have said he is a waste of space.

11/12 goals at this level is a good/decent season for a striker. 

Who is natural goalscorer at this level? Was Szmodics or BBD or Armstrong 

48 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

The thing is, you are totally close minded when we sign someone and never say you are worried he doesnt have this or this isnt great etc. For example, youve picked out only the best season out of the 2 and a half hes had and dismissed the ones when he didnt do as "well."

Wrong. I put both his WBA seasons together..

Coventry season hasn't gone to ideally but he hasn't played up front and their team has struggled. Does that put me off potential signing? Not one bit

48 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

And you speak as if we should purposely sign players that have had criticism at former clubs or who have struggled, based on the minority of examples where theyve suddenly come good. Its not an exact science, but if a player has struggled at a previous club, to most people it raises alarm bells. I have always said that I will judge them in a Rovers shirt, and if I have been underwhelmed by a signing, if they have gone on to do well ie Szmodics I have praised them. But I dont see the problem in raising concerns. It doesnt have to be all positive.

Your problem you focus on the concerns or poor point of their game every time first. Why? 

Is there actually any player link over the few weeks you been happy with? 

 

[Neal]

1 minute ago, Exiled_Rover said:

 

Hope that's one we lose.

 

How many shit non scoring forwards do Stoke want? Gally, Asante, Ennis... Fuck me, it's like they're doing it on purpose 😂

[roversfan99]

21 minutes ago, Neal said:

What's the point in Thomas Asante?? No resale value, Gueye is a better target man and possibly a better goal scorer. Just simply not what we need. I'd argue in Gueye we have physicality, in Ohashi we have graft what we don't have is PACE, someone who can run in behind and break lines. 

 

For me, the players we've been linked with that are the types we we need are Kargbo, Matondo & Godo. Direct wide players that can run in behind. That would help big Mac and give him some support, the reality is he's a link up player that will get more assists than goals, so let's make the most of that and get goals from out wide... 

 

We need to be looking for our poor man's versions of Mbuemo & Wissa... Not another big CF. 

Thomas Asante is not a target man to be fair. Hes not a natural goalscorer, although even though he is 2 to 1 this season, his 2 seasons at West Brom suggest he will get more than Gueye who is only really an occasional goal threat purely in the air. But his main asset is his pace which will hopefully stretch the play.

Im not saying we should get Thomas Asante, and if theres any competition as there is for him then he will likely go elsewhere. But he would offer us some pace in which we are lacking. The question is how many goals will he get, the answer based on the last 2 and a half seasons is likely certainly more than Gueye, but not loads.

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

11/12 goals at this level is a good/decent season for a striker. 

Who is natural goalscorer at this level? Was Szmodics or BBD or Armstrong 

Wrong. I put both his WBA seasons together..

Coventry season hasn't gone to ideally but he hasn't played up front and their team has struggled. Does that put me off potential signing? Not one bit

Your problem you focus on the concerns or poor point of their game every time first. Why? 

Is there actually any player link over the few weeks you been happy with? 

 

No, you read my posts which I try and combine positives and negatives, unless its someone like Forshaw. And you focus on the doubts only.

You dismiss any bad spells, you deny any potential weaknesses, and just shoot people down who dare mention them. In your mind, he can only possibly be good.

The only 2 strikers weve been linked with that I know of are Bamford and Thomas Asante. I wouldnt even entertain the former, hes injured. The latter I am mixed on.

11 or 12 goals a season would be reasonable on top of pace and pressing. But thats not his regular yearly yield so you cant just assume thats what he would get. 11 in 39 league games is his best, which is still 1 in just over 3 and a half games, so nothing special. Theres also a 7 in 33 and a 1 in 25 at this level which dont fit the narrative so youve dismissed them and assumed he scores 11 or 12 every season. His Championship record overall is 19 in 97 so 1 in 5. So based on that, he gets 9 goals if he plays a full season, which is a Gallagher ratio.

Obviously, we could well sign anyone and they could become prolific, its not a linear observation. But equally, its totally baffling logic to use that about any player. It would suggest that you can sign anyone, they MIGHT suddenly start scoring loads. They might, but if theyve done it before youve got more evidence that theyll do it again.

[chaddyrovers]

50 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

No, you read my posts which I try and combine positives and negatives, unless its someone like Forshaw. And you focus on the doubts only.

You dismiss any bad spells, you deny any potential weaknesses, and just shoot people down who dare mention them.

That's your first port of call. 

I dont get your negatively towards Forshaw. 

50 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

In your mind, he can only possibly be good.

I know Thomas-Asante is a good player.

50 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

11 or 12 goals a season would be reasonable on top of pace and pressing. But thats not his regular yearly yield so you cant just assume thats what he would get. 11 in 39 league games is his best, which is still 1 in just over 3 and a half games, so nothing special. Theres also a 7 in 33 and a 1 in 25 at this level which dont fit the narrative so youve dismissed them and assumed he scores 11 or 12 every season. His Championship record overall is 19 in 97 so 1 in 5. So based on that, he gets 9 goals if he plays a full season, which is a Gallagher ratio.

Like I said his record at West Brom was 1 in 4. 

[jny]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Im not saying we should get Thomas Asante, and if theres any competition as there is for him then he will likely go elsewhere. But he would offer us some pace in which we are lacking. 

Dolan has pace, knowing what we know about him, how many of us would want to bring him into our team?

[roversfan99]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

That's your first port of call. 

I dont get your negatively towards Forshaw. 

I know Thomas-Asante is a good player.

Like I said his record at West Brom was 1 in 4. 

Exactly. Which is not particularly impressive anyway, and thats if you just ignore his record at Coventry.

But again, my posts on Thomas Asante are mixed, weighing up positives and negatives of which I listed both. You presumably agree with the pros, ignore them, attack the cons because you cant bear to admit that its not solely positive, and say "its my first port of call." 

Because we needed a good midfielder, one to play while Travis is out and be immediate cover for him and Tronstad for the rest of a busy season. We instead signed a Plymouth reserve and bump Buckley up to do the role that Baker was doing, which is a big downgrade as he isnt good enough.

Is your opinion on the Forshaw signing purely positive?

[roversfan99]

1 minute ago, jny said:

Dolan has pace, knowing what we know about him, how many of us would want to bring him into our team?

Does Dolan have much pace? Not that I can see.

Im not convinced that Thomas Asante is the answer, thats if we even do get him which is far from certain. But he is much quicker than Dolan.

[Bbrovers2288]

Wonder how much posh are asking for Ricky jade jones