January Transfer window

[Scoobydo]

6 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

Do I really need to answer this? Happy to answer in the morning if it needs genuine clarification as to why it's been a shite window.

It wasn’t rhetorical no

[roversfan99]

Just now, Scoobydo said:

Take Dennis. Can’t afford him permanent, so we sign him on loan and break the top 6 and get promoted. As opposed to signing a lower league Striker on a permanent who fails to cut the mustard, finish 7th and stuck with a dud. 
It’s all unknown but there has to be a middle ground in all of this, we were never going to splash the cash on big fees and long contracts. Signing someone permanent doesn’t come with a guarantee of them being a success. What are your thoughts on say Sigurdsson? Permanent signing, good pedigree and yet half this board can’t wait to be rid. 
I’m by far from a happy clapper but accept we are where we are. And objectively it isn’t a bad window.

It isnt "objectively" not a bad window. Its very much subjective.

 

[SuperBrfc]

Emmanuel Dennis is a cracking signing. He is a real threat once he gets going. Woodrow is better than Leonard, so that's an upgrade for me.

It's short term and they've done it on the cheap. Only one set of people to blame for that. We are going to have the same issues again in the summer in needing multiple new incomings as the loanees go back.

However here and now, considering the small budget and these being loans, they look like shrewd picks on paper. It doesn't matter that West Brom have got Armstrong and Boro have got Iheanacho etc for me. We're fighting them all the way regardless.

Eustace has got us organised and staying in games. Now we've added pace in Kargbo and extra goal threat in Dennis and Woodrow. It's on.

Let's get after these teams and keep the pressure on. Boro are no Real Madrid no matter who and how many they sign, and West Brom have Mowbray as manager. Our biggest problem is our own hierarchy.

[Wegerleswiggle]

Not a bad squad at all. Just missing a CM in my opinion 

[Valconite]

 

Uh oh .... 👀

[islander200]

4 minutes ago, Scoobydo said:

Take Dennis. Can’t afford him permanent, so we sign him on loan and break the top 6 and get promoted. As opposed to signing a lower league Striker on a permanent who fails to cut the mustard, finish 7th and stuck with a dud. 
It’s all unknown but there has to be a middle ground in all of this, we were never going to splash the cash on big fees and long contracts. Signing someone permanent doesn’t come with a guarantee of them being a success. What are your thoughts on say Sigurdsson? Permanent signing, good pedigree and yet half this board can’t wait to be rid. 
I’m by far from a happy clapper but accept we are where we are. And objectively it isn’t a bad window.

In the summer we lose 12 or 13 of the squad signings have to happen, if we want have a squad not filled with 16 year old 

This window we had leeway with ffp, we could spend if the desire was  there and I'm pretty certain Eustace was under the impression more money than the relative to the league pittance we spent was available 

Like I said we should be using the position in the table to try entice players.They will have to spend something in the summer monet should have been spent on longer deals in this window 

[islander200]

I really hope Armstrong west brom hasn't happened 

[bluebruce]

12 minutes ago, roverstdt said:

Sorry Jim doesn’t make much sense you criticise a window pointing loans when Sheff signed more loan players than us. Diaz, Hamza, Raiky, Holding all loans. Same situation different finances and bigger club fans attendance wise 

Do Sheff U have as many players out of contract in the summer? They're also odds on for automatic promotion, playoffs at worst, so bringing in the best players they can, short term if need be, makes more sense for them as they will have immense funds to buy permanent Prem quality players soon. Meanwhile we will have done very well indeed if we qualify for the playoffs, which are a lottery, and are more than likely to be in this league again next season.

Might be different if we had struck earlier.

[Eddie]

Probably a CM away from this being a pretty decent window.

Of course, I would have loved to see us spend a bit of money, but I'm also aware that loans are not freebies. Bringing Denis in won't be cheap - although I'm sure his lack of playing time means that we aren't picking up much of his wages.

How fit is he? Time will tell. We don't really have that luxury, but have to hope that he can get up to speed and add a component that this side has been desperately missing.

We also have to cross our fingers when it comes to our central midfield options. We have 3 viable options there. We can't afford injuries. Can't afford suspensions. We have midfielders who have a tendency to pick up both. 

[booth]

9 minutes ago, Wegerleswiggle said:

Not a bad squad at all. Just missing a CM in my opinion 

That second line up is going to give me nightmares.

[jim mk2]

2 minutes ago, islander200 said:

I really hope Armstrong west brom hasn't happened 

 

You're not the only one. I was looking forward to going to the Hawthorns......

[JCRovers]

Sanderson 4/10 - decent backup but it's a loan spot wasted in my opinion. Should've signed a center-back on a permanent deal.

Forshaw 0/10 - not even good enough as a backup. A downgrade to Baker.

Kargbo 5/10 - a gamble since he's unproven at this level. Could be good, could be bad.

Ribeiro 4/10 - again, decent backup like Sanderson. Not likely to get ahead of Beck in the pecking order, though. 

Dennis 7/10 - good signing. Will need a couple of matches to gain match fitness but possess much-needed pace that has been lacking for some time in this team. 

Woodrow 3/10 - questionable signing. Was out of favour in Luton. Not convinced at all. 

 

Overall rating: 4/10 - Only Dennis can be seen as a good signing this window as he will improve starting XI. Ribeiro, Sanderson and Woodrow are, at best, decent backups. Kargbo is a real gamble, can't imagine the recruitment team are fully convinced on this one but time will tell. Forshaw is just a horrible one. 

[roverandout]

1 minute ago, bluebruce said:

Do Sheff U have as many players out of contract in the summer? They're also odds on for automatic promotion, playoffs at worst, so bringing in the best players they can, short term if need be, makes more sense for them as they will have immense funds to buy permanent Prem quality players soon. Meanwhile we will have done very well indeed if we qualify for the playoffs, which are a lottery, and are more than likely to be in this league again next season.

Might be different if we had struck earlier.

Exactly and they're just supplementing an already strong squad.  They're already odds on for promotion.  They'll get the riches of the epl next season.  We're throwing caution to the wind when the wind is already blowing a gale force

[yankfan]

15 minutes ago, booth said:

Woodrow has gone through according to the Twitterverse. It's just Dennis that we're waiting for confirmation on.

I’m not the one that matters most. 

[yankfan]

2 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

Sanderson 4/10 - decent backup but it's a loan spot wasted in my opinion. Should've signed a center-back on a permanent deal.

Forshaw 0/10 - not even good enough as a backup. A downgrade to Baker.

Kargbo 5/10 - a gamble since he's unproven at this level. Could be good, could be bad.

Ribeiro 4/10 - again, decent backup like Sanderson. Not likely to get ahead of Beck in the pecking order, though. 

Dennis 7/10 - good signing. Will need a couple of matches to gain match fitness but possess much-needed pace that has been lacking for some time in this team. 

Woodrow 3/10 - questionable signing. Was out of favour in Luton. Not convinced at all. 

 

Overall rating: 4/10 - Only Dennis can be seen as a good signing this window as he will improve starting XI. Ribeiro, Sanderson and Woodrow are, at best, decent backups. Kargbo is a real gamble, can't imagine the recruitment team are fully convinced on this one but time will tell. Forshaw is just a horrible one. 

Might want to hold off on the final rating until the Dennis deal is actually confirmed. 

[Darwen Rover 007]

Think decent business overall given our financial position (losing £10m year) and fact we generally have to sell 1 x player to mitigate losses.

CB - brought in as 3rd choice, upgrade on Macfadzen ✅️ (cheap and well known to the boss)

CM - in to replace 3rd choice CM that went back to Stoke, but very cheap 🟠

Pacey winger - brought in on a perm ✅️

LB - with decent pedigree to support Beck and injured Pickering ✅️

ST - big upgrade in quality striker brought in, granted its a loan but as others have mentioned no way we could afford a permanent ✅️

ST - backup striker not ideal but is there in case we have injuries and who knows 🟠

On the whole I would rate this a 7.5 out of 10 window, mainly due to overall circumstances, we are just not going to spend big money unless we have a benefactor.

JE will be content, he seems calm and collected in his approach.. a man in total control.

Well done Rudy also.. 

[JBiz]

5 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

Sanderson 4/10 - decent backup but it's a loan spot wasted in my opinion. Should've signed a center-back on a permanent deal.

Forshaw 0/10 - not even good enough as a backup. A downgrade to Baker.

Kargbo 5/10 - a gamble since he's unproven at this level. Could be good, could be bad.

Ribeiro 4/10 - again, decent backup like Sanderson. Not likely to get ahead of Beck in the pecking order, though. 

Dennis 7/10 - good signing. Will need a couple of matches to gain match fitness but possess much-needed pace that has been lacking for some time in this team. 

Woodrow 3/10 - questionable signing. Was out of favour in Luton. Not convinced at all. 

 

Overall rating: 4/10 - Only Dennis can be seen as a good signing this window as he will improve starting XI. Ribeiro, Sanderson and Woodrow are, at best, decent backups. Kargbo is a real gamble, can't imagine the recruitment team are fully convinced on this one but time will tell. Forshaw is just a horrible one. 

Wow. You’ll fit right in here 

[jim mk2]

3 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

Sanderson 4/10 - decent backup but it's a loan spot wasted in my opinion. Should've signed a center-back on a permanent deal.

Forshaw 0/10 - not even good enough as a backup. A downgrade to Baker.

Kargbo 5/10 - a gamble since he's unproven at this level. Could be good, could be bad.

Ribeiro 4/10 - again, decent backup like Sanderson. Not likely to get ahead of Beck in the pecking order, though. 

Dennis 7/10 - good signing. Will need a couple of matches to gain match fitness but possess much-needed pace that has been lacking for some time in this team. 

Woodrow 3/10 - questionable signing. Was out of favour in Luton. Not convinced at all. 

And therein lies the problem......

Apart from the one player with a bit of pedigree, Dennis (who is unlikely to be match fit), they're all squad players, none that you could say is a guaranteed, automatic starter who is better than what we already have and will improve the team

 

[JBiz]

1 minute ago, Darwen Rover 007 said:

Think decent business overall given our financial position (losing £10m year) and fact we generally have to sell 1 x player to mitigate losses.

CB - brought in as 3rd choice, upgrade on Macfadzen ✅️ (cheap and well known to the boss)

CM - in to replace 3rd choice CM that went back to Stoke, but very cheap 🟠

Pacey winger - brought in on a perm ✅️

LB - with decent pedigree to support Beck and injured Pickering ✅️

ST - big upgrade in quality striker brought in, granted its a loan but as others have mentioned no way we could afford a permanent ✅️

ST - backup striker not ideal but is there in case we have injuries and who knows 🟠

On the whole I would rate this a 7.5 out of 10 window, mainly due to overall circumstances, we are just not going to spend big money unless we have a benefactor.

JE will be content, he seems calm and collected in his approach.. a man in total control.

Well done Rudy also.. 

wow, you’ll get loads of stick for not moaning 😂 

[roversfan99]

Have you just come on to be the negativity police?

Its not as if the post says everyone is shit and we are all doomed.

[jim mk2]

4 minutes ago, yankfan said:

Might want to hold off on the final rating until the Dennis deal is actually confirmed. 

You know there's bound to be a problem..... none of Rovers' own making of course

[booth]

2 minutes ago, JBiz said:

wow, you’ll get loads of stick for not moaning 😂 

Those red dots mean they are shit.

[USABlue]

I could maybe, maybe, understand if we were piddling around mid table or just above the drop zone but come in wake up you pillocks.  You pillocks in India have had a reet good chance of gettin in the Prem for 4 out of the last 5.seasons.  Do they not know it is the only way they can see real cash.. I see nonother reason but they hate us as much as we hate them.

Pack up your shit and stick to chicken you friggin dream killer no mark idiots.  You have taken this great club and destroyed it an I can't help but feel they won't be happy until we are defunct.

Now challenge to Sir Eustace and the lads, GET IT DONE.  Get us promited in spite of these knobheads Maybe then if we are.premier league we can find a buyer to pluck us from the chicken killers.  I did not like em when they trapped in the first place I fookin hate em now.  Are hit men expensive in India (joke)

[davulsukur]

14 minutes ago, JCRovers said:

Sanderson 4/10 - decent backup but it's a loan spot wasted in my opinion. Should've signed a center-back on a permanent deal.

Forshaw 0/10 - not even good enough as a backup. A downgrade to Baker.

Kargbo 5/10 - a gamble since he's unproven at this level. Could be good, could be bad.

Ribeiro 4/10 - again, decent backup like Sanderson. Not likely to get ahead of Beck in the pecking order, though. 

Dennis 7/10 - good signing. Will need a couple of matches to gain match fitness but possess much-needed pace that has been lacking for some time in this team. 

Woodrow 3/10 - questionable signing. Was out of favour in Luton. Not convinced at all. 

 

Overall rating: 4/10 - Only Dennis can be seen as a good signing this window as he will improve starting XI. Ribeiro, Sanderson and Woodrow are, at best, decent backups. Kargbo is a real gamble, can't imagine the recruitment team are fully convinced on this one but time will tell. Forshaw is just a horrible one. 

I think Sanderson is a good signing tbf, he can cover a couple of positions and seems like he'll slot in no problems when needed.

I reckon Ribeiro will do alright as well tbh.

Kargbo could easily go either way and is a huge gamble.

Forshaw was signed to get us through like 3 games and hopefully he remains out of the starting 11 from now on, poor signing.

Woodrow seems like a poor signing also but I admit I don't know a lot about him.

Dennis should be a very exciting signing but hasn't played for ages so is probably going to be off the pace for some time.

The biggest reason this has been a shite window is that 5 of the 6 players we've signed, won't be here in the summer. Crazy way to operate (you can understand it for Dennis (wages) but the rest?)

Edited February 4 by davulsukur

[booth]

Objectively

Forshaw - couldn't get into Plymouth's team down the bottom of the league.
Sanderson - couldn't get into Birmingham's team in L1.
Woodrow - couldn't get into Luton's team, also down the bottom of the league.
Dennis - hasn't played in 9 months.
Ribiero - LB, six month contract.
Kargbo - Serie B player for 6 months.

Final thoughts (for JBiz who can't work it out for himself)

Let's be positive and hope that Woodrow and Kargbo can surprise us, Dennis can get match fit quickly and score some goals and the backup players can provide better backup than Forshaw has done so far.

Let's really hope that Tronstad and Ohashi can come back and Ohashi after a long rest can be as prolific as he was in the opening few games.

Edited February 4 by booth