January Transfer window

[alex l]

If Sanderson and Forshaw come in as low cost cover AND we land decent quality attackers, then fair enough. If they're all that comes in, then we'll slide down the table. 

Goes to show with Park gone, so are the quality of the leaks from the club. 

[simongarnerisgod]

5 minutes ago, Scoobydo said:

It’s a body in. We’re short at CB, makes perfect sense. So would the Forshaw link, neither are coming to start it’s just to cover us in the run in. Don’t know what people expect, both are / would be reactive signings to the season so far (personnel wise)

Hopefully we sign a more exciting winger and centre forward. Time will tell

no we won`t,eustace is getting nothing money wise

[MB Rover]

A bit of positivity from me before I implode, Plymouth fans seem gutted to be losing forshaw. 

[Rover down South]

Five loans allowed in matchday squad.

1. Beck,

2. ACD,

3. Sanderson,

4. Forshaw (possible)

We still need a decent left winger and a striker, so unless we are spending good money, one of those isn’t happening, unless we are after Ryan Kent on a free.

[London blue]

11 minutes ago, Scoobydo said:

It’s a body in. We’re short at CB, makes perfect sense. So would the Forshaw link, neither are coming to start it’s just to cover us in the run in. Don’t know what people expect, both are / would be reactive signings to the season so far (personnel wise)

Hopefully we sign a more exciting winger and centre forward. Time will tell

I think people are maybe expecting us not to loan out of favour players from the league below.

[simongarnerisgod]

fair enough if we have no money,just tell us the truth and if you genuinly have none,then create a decent scouting network so you can recruit wisely,it worked for past managers thought back then,the club was run like a football club and not a ****show like it is now

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5 minutes ago, MB Rover said:

A bit of positivity from me before I implode, Plymouth fans seem gutted to be losing forshaw. 

We're getting heat off a team that's going down faster than the Titanic

[JHRover]

I don't really understand it unless we are offloading a CB or Carter's injury is worse than first announced.

Suppose it is low risk and it is clearly a Eustace led/approved signing so have to support his judgment. Birmingham fans seem to think his best spell was when Eustace was their manager.

It really doesn't suggest there is much either by way of plan or resources though. It instead points to an ever increasingly desperate financial situation.

All that talk about structures, plans, systems, scouting. All that money brought in. And in the end it's loaning someone who the manager knows from his last club who are now in the league below yet seemingly in a far better state than we are.

[booth]

8 minutes ago, alex l said:

If Sanderson and Forshaw come in as low cost cover AND we land decent quality attackers, then fair enough. If they're all that comes in, then we'll slide down the table. 

Goes to show with Park gone, so are the quality of the leaks from the club. 

They look like two downright shit players going off what their respective clubs fans are saying, so even if we land decent quality attackers they seem absolutely pointless. May as well just use youth players.

Is this really the best we can do in terms of low cost cover?

[Forever Blue]

5 minutes ago, JHRover said:

I don't really understand it unless we are offloading a CB or Carter's injury is worse than first announced.

Suppose it is low risk and it is clearly a Eustace led/approved signing so have to support his judgment. Birmingham fans seem to think his best spell was when Eustace was their manager.

It really doesn't suggest there is much either by way of plan or resources though. It instead points to an ever increasingly desperate financial situation.

All that talk about structures, plans, systems, scouting. All that money brought in. And in the end it's loaning someone who the manager knows from his last club who are now in the league below yet seemingly in a far better state than we are.

Makes perfect sense. We’re short at CB and RB and Carter won’t be back until Feb.

Whether Sanderson is any good is a different matter….but I trust Eustace to sign good defenders. 

[chaddyrovers]

Sanderson signing. Eustace knows him, signed him made him captain at Birmingham. Championship experience. Can play right back aswell. 

 

[Rover1984]

Relegation favourites start of season. Eustace has got that something special out of this average squad. Seems to be able to get extra out of his players, It’s his signing and it looks as though they are targeting what he wants

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

Straight question, do you think signing Forshaw is a good idea and do you think it strengthens our chances of a top 6 finish?

I think its squad signing who will be back up to Travis and Tronstad. Similar to Baker. Championship experience. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

You seem to think that if Eustace endorses it, it must right. I dont know for sure if he would choose someone better if he had more money, just as we will never know if Eustace pushed for Forshaw, if it happens. If he would have gone for Forshaw anyway, I would have criticised Eustace. As it is, I just feel sorry for him. Wanting to sustain a play off push and not being given the tools to do it.

If Eustace behind the signing of Forshaw than I back his judgement, he has asked for experience Championship signings this window and he got them this summer. Its about now and present. 

1 hour ago, roversfan99 said:

And yes, a decent back up to Travis and Tronstad. Are we not allowed to sign anything other than a past it warm body to boost the squad?

As far as I see it. In midfield, we had 2 very good Championship midfielders, then a solid back up in Baker. Then Buckley who isnt good enough. 2 very good options, a good backup.

Now we have replaced that good back up with someone not capable of being a back up at the worst team in the league, whose legs have gone. And one of our main 2 midfielders is injured.

So who would you have gone for instead? 

Who says his legs have gone? 

Are we likely to sign a better midfielder than Travis and Tronstad? Plus factoring in they are a key part of where we are league wise? 

[JHRover]

6 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Makes perfect sense. We’re short at CB and RB and Carter won’t be back until Feb.

Whether Sanderson is any good is a different matter….but I trust Eustace to sign good defenders. 

We've managed over the last few months with only Hyam, Batth and McFadzean as CB options so I'm not sure it is that important that we sign another CB just to cover the next few weeks until Carter should be back, unless as I say his return isn't likely any time soon.

I trust Eustace's judgment.

But fundamentally we are now going to reach the end of this season with Batth and McFadzean out of contract, Sanderson returning to Birmingham and Scott Wharton making a comeback after over a year with a serious injury. It's going to need another rebuild. That's before they try and flog Carter as one of our few assets with any remaining value.

[roverandout]

10 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Sanderson signing. Eustace knows him, signed him made him captain at Birmingham. Championship experience. Can play right back aswell. 

 

You back anything the club do

[roverandout]

All I can say is i won't be returning to Ewood again with this shit 

[Neal]

Don't think Sanderson on loan is that bad a signing to be honest. Was signed for 2 million from Wolves not long ago. Only just turned 25, should be coming into best years of his career and has plenty of champ experience... I think these should always have agreements to buy in case they turn out well. Not an inspiring one but an understandable one. 

[TheRevAshton]

Heard we’re also signing Eustace’s window cleaner to play on the left wing.

He's shite at footy, but you know… Eustace knows him.

(before anyone asks… yes, on loan obviously)

Edited January 10 by TheRevAshton

[wilsdenrover]

In case anyone needs cheering up, we’re case number 60 in the court on Monday…

Edited January 10 by wilsdenrover

[Hasta]

5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

Who says his legs have gone? 

Every Plymouth fan on social media. Literally all of them.

[Norbert Rassragr]

Hopefully Sanderson will be like Brad Friedel, and be amazing when some thought it was a manager getting his mate in.

 

[chaddyrovers]

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Why is it hard? What do the recruitment team do outside of the window surely logic would suggest 

budget is x amount 

we need a striker and winger

from October to now 3 months they should have been targeting certain players to fit the bill for the budget - that’s enough time to allow for change for example poku getting injured so move on or godo back in Fulham plans due to reiss nelson injury - so there should be back ups 

Cos you are just looking at us and not at the other team outlook.. If you selling a striker then it's likely you want a replacement in first. For example, if we want to sign Riis but PNE might want a replacement in first before agreeing to sell him

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

our recruitment stinks of starting on 1st Jan and hoping for the best

The first 2 weeks of January window is always slow. Little movement 

1 hour ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

Your post is a tad contradictory you don’t think there’s a good loan forward and you don’t think we will buy one so where does that leave us?

I know it isn’t football manager but surely it’s a lot easier than rovers make it 

Having a problem. I dont see a good Championship striker we can sign on loan out there. I see Dennis at Forest or Ipswich striker as possibility but can we get them in. Massive question..

Can we buy what we need? Do we have budget to? 

 

[roverandout]

Just now, Scoobydo said:

It was the managers ambition to sign Sanderson. 

Only because there's no money to sign better

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[JHRover]

1 minute ago, Scoobydo said:

It was the managers ambition to sign Sanderson. 

Which came first, the chicken or the egg?

Did Eustace go running to the recruitment team and ask for Sanderson as his first choice CB signing having worked with him previously?

Or did the club tell Eustace we've got no money to play with and he's limited to low cost loans so he's making the best of a bad do by picking one he knows?

I think there is quite a big difference between the two.