January Transfer window

[Mike E]

44 minutes ago, Upside Down said:

How bad would it be then if you were first choice and I was backup ?

Would that still count as depth?

Yep, still depth. Just complete shite (and I recommend you go ahead of me).

[Upside Down]

1 hour ago, Mike E said:

Yep, still depth. Just complete shite (and I recommend you go ahead of me).

I wouldn't.

[bluebruce]

2 hours ago, Mike E said:

Yep, still depth. Just complete shite (and I recommend you go ahead of me).

What about you and I? I'm incredibly injury prone and would probably spend at least 80% of the season injured, and the rest being shit at that level. Is that still depth?

[Mike E]

22 minutes ago, bluebruce said:

What about you and I? I'm incredibly injury prone and would probably spend at least 80% of the season injured, and the rest being shit at that level. Is that still depth?

Yep. A body is a body 😅

[bluebruce]

48 minutes ago, Mike E said:

Yep. A body is a body 😅

I suppose by this logic, the club always has great depth. We have plenty of U21s, U18s and U16s we could field, who are better than either of us...

And then clearly an army of fans ready to get out there after that.

Edited December 7 by bluebruce

[47er]

6 hours ago, Mike E said:

Having Beck and Pickering is good depth and good quality.

Having Beck and Me is good depth but less quality.

Having Beck is having good quality but no depth.

Having Pickering is ok but no depth.

Having me is a fucking disaster (mainly because I’m right footed and shit anyway).

Sorry---having you doesn't add any depth at all!

[doctorryan]

5 hours ago, Upside Down said:

How bad would it be then if you were first choice and I was backup ?

Would that still count as depth?

No............That would be the depths.

[RevidgeBlue]

8 hours ago, 47er said:

Isn't that the same thing?

Not In my book. To me adding quality means improving the quality of the starting eleven, adding depth means bringing in people as back up in case of injury or suspension.

I don't think many people would argue that if we were really serious about making a promotion push we need a striker who can find the back of the net, a pacy winger and although Batth has done very well, a centre half who all walk straight into the team.

Unfortunately all we usually get is a bit of tinkering round edges in terms of padding out the squad a bit because it's cheaper.

Especially in January.

[Forever Blue]

9 hours ago, 47er said:

Isn't that the same thing?

Is what I meant 

[47er]

54 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Not In my book. To me adding quality means improving the quality of the starting eleven, adding depth means bringing in people as back up in case of injury or suspension.

I don't think many people would argue that if we were really serious about making a promotion push we need a striker who can find the back of the net, a pacy winger and although Batth has done very well, a centre half who all walk straight into the team.

Unfortunately all we usually get is a bit of tinkering round edges in terms of padding out the squad a bit because it's cheaper.

Especially in January.

I don’ think we disagree here do we? depth is about quality not mere numbers.

As someone above alluded to, we will always have a starting eleven and we’ll always have substitutes available in numbers but not, sadly, in depth.

Anyway I’m sick of tidying up Riggers messes while he buggers off!

[wilsdenrover]

2 hours ago, 47er said:

Sorry---having you doesn't add any depth at all!

That’s what she said…

[philipl]

There has to be some real quality sitting on the bench at Premier League clubs desperately in need of games. 

Championship clubs will be snapping them up on loan in January- will we?

[Forever Blue]

12 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

I think we lack depth in virtually every position on the pitch.

To clarify, I meant depth in quality. Drafting an U18 in cos Hyam and Baath are injured is not depth.  If one or both of those two get injured we’re a bit fooked at present. 

[rigger]

10 hours ago, 47er said:

Isn't that the same thing?

No

[Forever Blue]

2 minutes ago, rigger said:

No

A squad having depth is a reference to  quality i.e. strength in depth. It’s not a reference to quantity. It’s a common reference in football discussion. I’m surprised you misunderstood.

[rigger]

1 minute ago, Forever Blue said:

A squad having depth is a reference to  quality i.e. strength in depth. It’s not a reference to quantity. It’s a common reference in football discussion. I’m surprised you misunderstood.

I didn't misunderstand, I read what was posted. If what was posted, was not what the poster was trying to say, I cannot help that.

[Forever Blue]

Just now, rigger said:

I didn't misunderstand, I read what was posted. If what was posted, was not what the poster was trying to say, I cannot help that.

Like I said, you misunderstood the meaning. Not everything is literal, even if it does allow for pedantry. If a squad lacks ‘depth’ it means that beyond the first XI the squad is a bit shit. Always has done, always will do. I cannot help that you don’t know that.

[joey_big_nose]

13 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

I think we lack depth in virtually every position on the pitch.

Dont think so except striker and centre back. Good backups at GK (Hoth), lb (beck or pickering), rb (JRC) cm (Buckley, Baker), wing (ACB, Sigurdsson).

Obviously you can always do better, but compared to most seasons we're in a pretty good place 

[Forever Blue]

25 minutes ago, joey_big_nose said:

Dont think so except striker and centre back. Good backups at GK (Hoth), lb (beck or pickering), rb (JRC) cm (Buckley, Baker), wing (ACB, Sigurdsson).

Obviously you can always do better, but compared to most seasons we're in a pretty good place 

GK - Pears is average and he’s the best we’ve got. At most Championship clubs he’d be backup.

CB - With Carter injured we’re another injury away from real trouble.

We play with 2 DMs so there’s no like for like swap in there.

We have no cover at RB. JRC is an accident waiting to happen and Duru is unproven.

LB is an area where we don’t need reinforcements.

LW is poor - Hedges and Siggy are just not good enough.

AM - Cantwell and Dolan are good options.

RW - Dolan is inconsistent and ACD unproven.

Striker options are average at best. 
 

The first XI is competitive, the replacements either unproven or proven inadequate.

I think the quality of the manager is papering over a lot of cracks in the squad.

Edited December 7 by Forever Blue

[RoversClitheroe]

We have around £20m to play with based on our sales in the last 12 months.

Excited to see us sign absolutely no one.

[Herbie6590]

10 minutes ago, RoversClitheroe said:

We have around £20m to play with based on our sales in the last 12 months.

Excited to see us sign absolutely no one.

We have headroom in our P&S numbers…cash in the bank account is completely different…

[chaddyrovers]

I think we have depth in certain areas like Centre midfield but the Centre back is a problem

Edited December 7 by chaddyrovers

[wilsdenrover]

1 hour ago, Herbie6590 said:

We have headroom in our P&S numbers…cash in the bank account is completely different…

As is the desire to spend it.

[RevidgeBlue]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

I think we have depth in certain areas like Centre midfield or up front but the Centre back is a problem

What's the strength in depth up front?

[chaddyrovers]

3 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

What's the strength in depth up front?

Fair point and I delete it after your comment/reply. I like Ohashi and what he brings. Leonard I rate and he did well in his first season last season for me. Gueye signing hasn't work out