January Transfer window

[Atko's Engine]

On 10/01/2025 at 23:19, JHRover said:

We've managed over the last few months with only Hyam, Batth and McFadzean as CB options so I'm not sure it is that important that we sign another CB just to cover the next few weeks until Carter should be back, unless as I say his return isn't likely any time soon.

I trust Eustace's judgment.

But fundamentally we are now going to reach the end of this season with Batth and McFadzean out of contract, Sanderson returning to Birmingham and Scott Wharton making a comeback after over a year with a serious injury. It's going to need another rebuild. That's before they try and flog Carter as one of our few assets with any remaining value.

Carter's not going to come back fully primed for Championship cut n thrust football. He'll need a few games to get up to speed, so if he's not available for another month then it's likely mid March until he's properly back to his best. That's a long time to risk reliance solely on Baath, Hyam & McFadz.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, Dolly blue said:

 No opinion on Wallace…but..Bamford.. NO

A friend of mine is a Leeeds season ticket holder …and his words, at the end of last season nail it …

“ If we’d have had Szmodics and you’d have had Bamford we’d  be in the Premier League and you’d be in League 1 “ ..nough said !

If we still had Szmodics he’d have walked away with the match ball yesterday. Where we’d be if we still had Sammi ?

Edited 21 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

2 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Don't think so.  He came in on loan, was a sensation, didn't get on with Jim Iley and went elsewhere as far as I can recall.

The Board got flak about it and that probably did for Iley.

Didn’t he go to Bury ?

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, Tyrone Shoelaces said:

Didn’t he go to Bury ?

Quite possibly. Rings a bell.

[jim mk2]

 Bamford was a top player a few years ago - played for England. At 31 he should have a few good years in him and I wouldn’t be against him coming to us - if anything even without goals he would lead the lead the line better than anything we’ve got at present

Edited 20 hours ago by jim mk2

[den]

8 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Don't think so.  He came in on loan, was a sensation, didn't get on with Jim Iley and went elsewhere as far as I can recall.

The Board got flak about it and that probably did for Iley.

Fair enough. He was superb when he was here.

[Tyrone Shoelaces]

25 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

 Bamford was a top player a few years ago - played for England. At 31 he should have a few good years in him and I wouldn’t be against him coming to us - if anything even without goals he would lead the lead the line better than anything we’ve got at present

Playing for Leeds the ball is in their opponents half most of the time and he still does nothing. It’d be worse at Rovers. He’s playing from memory Jim.

Edited 20 hours ago by Tyrone Shoelaces

[Atko's Engine]

One thing to bear in mind; when Sanderson was playing for Brum last season, after JE left he played mostly under the fabled Rooney.

Forshaw has played this season mostly under.... you guessed it, Wayne Rooney. And they still beat us....

Let's not write these players off based on initial impressions.

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, chaddyrovers said:

 

 

Do not bring Markanday back. He's absolutely more of the same.

[Forever Blue]

7 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

 Bamford was a top player a few years ago - played for England. At 31 he should have a few good years in him and I wouldn’t be against him coming to us - if anything even without goals he would lead the lead the line better than anything we’ve got at present

Agreed about leading the line. We struggle to get out sometimes when under the cosh and Bamford can be effective at getting hold of the ball, laying it off and drawing fouls. He’s an experienced campaigner at this level. 

[Parsonblue]

51 minutes ago, den said:

Whenever we’re discussing the likes of Bamford, I can’t help but think about bringing in other players down the years who used to be pretty good. John Radford and Fred Pickering in particular. It rarely works. Forget them and move on.

I think it depends on the player.  Waggy was excellent for us and we had a great season from McKenzie.  Likewise Moran and Cowans did very good jobs for us and I think McFadzean made all the difference last season.  Like all signings - some work out well whilst others are a disaster.  Mind you, we've signed some younger players who've not worked out too well.

[RevidgeBlue]

Keep thinking wistfully  back to when we brought Steve Archibald in on loan when he was at Barcelona.

In terms of impact and wow factor that's the sort of signing we could do with.

Given our impoverished circumstances at the time it was so surreal and off the scale bat shit crazy that the equivalent now would be bringing in someone like Marcus Rashford on loan.

[Exiled_Rover]

2 hours ago, rigger said:

And yet, he would walk into our first team.

Would he?

[Galgaterover10]

23 minutes ago, pick32 said:

If it was in’s and ours 

Forshaw, Andersen, Bamford and Wallace

Backer, Mcfazden, Leonard (loan) and Sigurdson 

id say we would finish the window with a weaker squad 

Come on now! I’m all up for opinions and debates but let’s not just say things that aren’t true.  I don’t want Bamford and don’t think he solves our problems but at this current time in their respective careers he is clearly better than Leonard. And Jed Wallace is clearly an upgrade on never available and uninterested sigurdsson. 

[Forever Blue]

1 minute ago, Atko's Engine said:

One thing to bear in mind; when Sanderson was playing for Brum last season, after JE left he played mostly under the fabled Rooney.

Forshaw has played this season mostly under.... you guessed it, Wayne Rooney. And they still beat us....

Let's not write these players off based on initial impressions.

I said the same yesterday. It’s irrelevant what has gone on before. Call it the ‘Rule of Rudy’….absolute dogshit before he pulled on a Rovers shirt, and dog shit for the most part after he left. 

You could tell by the way Eustace spoke about Sanderson yesterday that he is a big fan. Talking about DS being a leader and how he was his captain when Brum were doing so well in the Championship under Eustace. 

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

15 minutes ago, jim mk2 said:

 Bamford was a top player a few years ago - played for England. At 31 he should have a few good years in him and I wouldn’t be against him coming to us - if anything even without goals he would lead the lead the line better than anything we’ve got at present

How is he much use if he’s constantly injured? And currently injured may I add

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 minutes ago, Forever Blue said:

Agreed about leading the line. We struggle to get out sometimes when under the cosh and Bamford can be effective at getting hold of the ball, laying it off and drawing fouls. He’s an experienced campaigner at this level. 

Who is currently and consistently injured 

[KentExile]

12 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Do not bring Markanday back. He's absolutely more of the same.

Story states he will be loaned straight back out to Leyton Orient, who are in the play off hunt in League 1.  Sounds like a sensible move if true

Edited 20 hours ago by KentExile

[RevidgeBlue]

2 minutes ago, Galgaterover10 said:

Come on now! I’m all up for opinions and debates but let’s not just say things that aren’t true.  I don’t want Bamford and don’t think he solves our problems but at this current time in their respective careers he is clearly better than Leonard. And Jed Wallace is clearly an upgrade on never available and uninterested sigurdsson. 

Apart from being on 70k p.w. and (imo) useless Bamford is a colossal injury risk, made of glass.

Fair point on Wallace IF he was being brought in on a one in one out basis to replace Sigurdsson for squad depth. As a main signing don't think he'd be the answer.

[Bbrovers2288]

Seems like the usual January availability of players that are so far off their teams xi there is little chance they will ever get back there. All these links are players from years back and all gambles to get back any kind of championship form. Miss the days we could raid those slightly lower down the food chain from us and pick up their current form players 

[RevidgeBlue]

1 minute ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Seems like the usual January availability of players that are so far off their teams xi there is little chance they will ever get back there. All these links are players from years back and all gambles to get back any kind of championship form. Miss the days we could raid those slightly lower down the food chain from us and pick up their current form players 

Yep. Where's the next Dack/Szmodics?

[roversfan99]

Whether Bamford is past it or not, an improvement or not, the solution to our striking problems or not. Surely the fact that hes out for at least a month takes that discussion off the table anyway.

[KentExile]

12 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Seems like the usual January availability of players that are so far off their teams xi there is little chance they will ever get back there. All these links are players from years back and all gambles to get back any kind of championship form. Miss the days we could raid those slightly lower down the food chain from us and pick up their current form players 

 

10 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Yep. Where's the next Dack/Szmodics?

Its been said before, but it shows how shortsighted the current owners/hierarchy/etc are.  A few £100K (or in my dreams £1-2M) on the best current League 1 players can be worth £10M in under 2 years.  As we have demonstrated with Szmodics, and would have likely also happened with Dack was it not for his first big injury

Edited 20 hours ago by KentExile

[roversfan99]

19 minutes ago, Atko's Engine said:

One thing to bear in mind; when Sanderson was playing for Brum last season, after JE left he played mostly under the fabled Rooney.

Forshaw has played this season mostly under.... you guessed it, Wayne Rooney. And they still beat us....

Let's not write these players off based on initial impressions.

As long as you are open minded when they sign, which people are. Then I dont see the problem in criticising (or praising, although that side doesnt seem to be shot down as much when people say its a good signing) based on recent form or their career to date. Its all we have to go off.

When say Gestede signed, and there are more recent examples. People questioning them was still justifiable, but then once they started exceeding expectations, people praised them.

On the flip side, weve signed players expecting them to be good and theyve not worked out as expected.

[only2garners]

46 minutes ago, SuperBrfc said:

Looking at the names being linked, I can't help but wonder what the point is of the recruitment team that the club made a song and dance about putting together not so long back.

It's looking like a bit of a facade to me and it seems like John Park might have had a similar feeling too.

Jed Wallace. A player that Mowbray is said to have lined up to sign with the Rothwell sale money (neither ended up happening). If true, that's another former target we are revisiting. Where's the imagination? Where's the recruitment team?

Brereton Diaz. Wasn't all that the first time round IMO, though better than what we have now. Fell off badly when we needed him most. Would be a lazy move by the club to just try for somebody they know as a former player. Again, where is the imagination? What is the point of the recruitment team?

Brereton being better than what we currently have is true, but it feels to me like some are eager to rush him back as the alternative signings could be total shit. In that case, again, what is the point of the recruitment team?

Also, the argument from some that Brereton would be better than signing an unknown pacey player suggests a lack of faith in recruitment to find what we need.

Bamford. Another ageing, former Boro player. Hmm. Hello? Recruitment team? Anybody home?

I think you’re confusing names randomly mentioned on the internet with actual names of players that are being considered by the club. As far as I know none of the players mentioned have a definite link t9 the club as yet.