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8 minutes ago, only2garners said:

I think you’re confusing names randomly mentioned on the internet with actual names of players that are being considered by the club. As far as I know none of the players mentioned have a definite link t9 the club as yet.

The ones we have actually brought in aren't very inspiring either.

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55 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

How is he much use if he’s constantly injured? And currently injured may I add

None obviously, and signing Bamford would come with risks. This is all theoretical and it shows the type of players we’re looking at - freebies, young loanees and has beens. Everything points to us spending not one penny in this window

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2 hours ago, Forever Blue said:

Wallace never had any pace. He is a technically good footballer who relied on his footballing ability rather than pace. He is very much a Eustace player…looks after the ball, works hard, good defensively. 

100% agree

2 hours ago, BankEnd Rover said:

It's more than likely we're not going to recruit more than 1 LW and 1 centre forward so basing the topic on that Wallace is not what we should be looking at. You seem to base a lot of things on what Eustace wants, fair enough but how do you know it's what he wants? Just because it's in writing? 
 

The whole team lacks any pace, we are dull, we need some edge, any winger we look at needs to be direct and quick and ideally a resale value. 

Eustace in interviews mentions experiences and look at valued experiences who are good squad players like Batth, Weimann, Batth, McFadzean now Sanderson and Forshaw

if you look at recent links it appears to be experience players. 

1 hour ago, imy9 said:

I have seen Nathan broadheads name mentioned- that would be an exciting signing- perfect age and would fit in our system well. Well done the pecking order at Ipswich.

he is starting games there recently. last 2 I think

58 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

Do not bring Markanday back. He's absolutely more of the same.

he is going on loan at Leyton Orient at league 1 level

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3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

You keep trying to dismiss my argument that we shouldnt sign certain players we are linked with because I am not a scout with a handy list of numerous players to hand.

We badly need pace, our attack is so laborious, dull and slow. We should be spending money too, it shouldnt just be players in their 30s on loan.

Jed Wallace was a very good Championship winger in his day. Now, a direct Championship rival deems him as nothing other than a sub to use at the end. He hasnt had any impact all season, is 31 soon and his athleticism will be on the wane.

Bamford is constantly injured and is currently out for 4 weeks. Hardly one to come straight in. He hasnt scored many goals for a number of years with injuries catching up on him.

Im guessing youd want both "because Eustace wants them" and "Harry Leonard says we need experience."

If our January transfer window ended with Forshaw, Sanderson, Wallace and Bamford. Do you fancy us for top 6?

my problem is you keep saying we need to back Eustace and he has mentioned experience in interviews and he has 2 signings in, who have given that, but cos they aren't who you want to sign, and based your opinions on fan opinions of their previous clubs. So your judgement is already made up on them then? So do still back what Eustace wants which is experience players in or do we ignore what he wants and sign players he doesn't want

We haven't loaned any players in 30's have we? No we haven't. 

I would take Jed Wallace for the same reasons Forever Blue said to you. 

on Bamford, his problem is his own injured record and based on that, It puts me off and I would go for Riis and Thomas Asante instead who have championship experience and scored goals at this level, But I'm not the one calling a player at aged 31 a has been like yourself. 

I have told you twice, our top 6 chances depends who we sign as the striker signing and winger. Wallace and Bamford have only been linked, not signed yet. 22 days left of the window. 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

https://westbrom.com/forum/index.php?topic=27002.500

West Brom fans put Wallace's decline down to an injury which has robbed him of half a yard of pace.

so we shouldn't sign any players based on fans opinions? FFS. Good job we didn't listened to fans opinions on Szmodics, Weimann, Hyam, Batth isn't it? 

 

3 hours ago, roversfan99 said:

The odd one can be useful in bringing experience.

Not too many though especially attackers who are slowing down in an area where we are already pedestrian.

You were against Weimann and Batth signings here and look at how that turn out? that opinion was on fans opinion and Batth not playing at Norwich last season, but he has been proven you wrong and been on one of our best signings this season

How can Wallace and Bamford been has been at the age 30 and 31? 

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5 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

my problem is you keep saying we need to back Eustace and he has mentioned experience in interviews and he has 2 players who have given that, but cos they aren't who you want to sign, you slagged them off before their put the Blue and White shirt and based your opinions on fan opinions of their previous clubs. So your judgement is already made up on them then? So do still back what Eustace wants which is experience players in or do we ignore what he wants and sign players he doesn't want

We haven't loaned any players in 30's have we? No we haven't. 

I would take Jed Wallace for the same reasons Forever Blue said to you. 

on Bamford, his problem is his own injured record and based on that, It puts me off and I would go for Riis and Thomas Asante instead who have championship experience and scored goals at this level, But I'm not the one calling a player at aged 31 a has been like yourself. 

I have told you twice, our top 6 chances depends who we sign as the striker signing and winger. Wallace and Bamford have only been linked, not signed yet. 22 days left of the window. 

so we shouldn't sign any players based on fans opinions? FFS. Good job we didn't listened to fans opinions on Szmodics, Weimann, Hyam, Batth isn't it? 

 

You were against Weimann and Batth signings here and look at how that turn out? that opinion was on fans opinion and Batth not playing at Norwich last season, but he has been proven you wrong and been on one of our best signings this season

How can Wallace and Bamford been has been at the age 30 and 31? 

Centre half is another story. They probably run the least of all the outfield players. You can easily play there until your mid thirties if you’ve looked after yourself. 

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7 minutes ago, wilsdenrover said:

Rudy joined Boro from Aston Villa not Rovers.
 

Obviously he’s mates with Rudy from that time. Once Travis is back playing I can see Forshaw replacing him after 60-70 minutes so we don’t burn Travis out again.

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1 hour ago, Parsonblue said:

I think it depends on the player.  Waggy was excellent for us and we had a great season from McKenzie.  Likewise Moran and Cowans did very good jobs for us and I think McFadzean made all the difference last season.  Like all signings - some work out well whilst others are a disaster.  Mind you, we've signed some younger players who've not worked out too well.

Yes Parson, I agree with that. I guess I’m thinking more of players who are clearly on the wane, such as the two I mentioned. As much as it’s tempting to get them in hoping they can recover a bit of what they had - like Bamford - it’s usually better to just move forwards.

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33 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

my problem is you keep saying we need to back Eustace and he has mentioned experience in interviews and he has 2 signings in, who have given that, but cos they aren't who you want to sign, and based your opinions on fan opinions of their previous clubs. So your judgement is already made up on them then? So do still back what Eustace wants which is experience players in or do we ignore what he wants and sign players he doesn't want

We haven't loaned any players in 30's have we? No we haven't. 

I would take Jed Wallace for the same reasons Forever Blue said to you. 

on Bamford, his problem is his own injured record and based on that, It puts me off and I would go for Riis and Thomas Asante instead who have championship experience and scored goals at this level, But I'm not the one calling a player at aged 31 a has been like yourself. 

I have told you twice, our top 6 chances depends who we sign as the striker signing and winger. Wallace and Bamford have only been linked, not signed yet. 22 days left of the window. 

so we shouldn't sign any players based on fans opinions? FFS. Good job we didn't listened to fans opinions on Szmodics, Weimann, Hyam, Batth isn't it? 

 

You were against Weimann and Batth signings here and look at how that turn out? that opinion was on fans opinion and Batth not playing at Norwich last season, but he has been proven you wrong and been on one of our best signings this season

How can Wallace and Bamford been has been at the age 30 and 31? 

I was asking your opinion. You dont have to keep saying Eustace said, Eustace wants etc and assuming if thats what he wants, then echoing him.

We dont know for sure how much input Eustace has and how happy he is. He isnt going to say in the media, well player x is a bit shit but they signed him anyway. He also might consider signings to be the best we can afford, indeed he referenced yesterday that both signings dont take up much budget.

Obviously he should have the final say, but it doesnt mean if he endorses it, thats its the right signing. We can have opinions that are different.

We clearly have different opinions on being backed considering our league position, prior sales and a thin squad. Being backed is not just him agreeing with a signing. He might well have wanted better quality and cant afford it. You think being backed is just the manager agreeing to the signing.

Youve made that up on Weimann and Batth. Weimann I said at the time was a useful pickup as a squad player. It was McFadzean out of the 2 centre backs that I didnt agree with signing. Also, when Hyam came, Coventry fans did rate him. Batth also came with Sunderland fans all saying hes a good player, I dont think Norwich fans had much of an opinion as he didnt really play.

And my mind isnt made up on either of the new signings. Sanderson is reasonable enough cover as 4th choice and an upgrade on McFadzean, Forshaw in a position where we need someone in the team now I think is a poor signing. But especially on the latter as I have a stronger opinion, if he comes in and does well, I will happily change my opinion.

FWIW, Thomas Asante is not a source of many goals and has had a shocking time at Coventry. 

We are just discussing rumours, theres probably a strong chance we get neither of Bamford and Wallace. Im just asking, if our remaining business was to get them 2 on loan, would you consider us well prepared/likely to get into the play offs?

Do you also think we need pace, or is your mindset, if Eustace prefers older experienced players then you will just agree with that?

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34 minutes ago, Bbrovers2288 said:

Mcfadzean off to chesterfield , what a great example of an old school professional.

at his age , his career , imagine his wealth, he still just wants to play football. Probably taking a pay cut to do so. 
I for one wasn’t for his signing at his age and where we were at the time but he has been an absolute credit to himself and us. 

will forever have my respect. Fair play big man , wish you all the best 

Obvious sentimentalism but if he wants to get his badges anywhere I'd be happy if rovers were accomodating - more so given the open door to our DoF and how he acted 

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8 minutes ago, Paul Mani said:

The overriding feeling is that us going after time served Championship players looks like JE is in charge.

Ive said this before but I’ve absolutely no idea why fully grown men lose their shit over some cat shagging, mummy’s boy with an X account, saying we’re about to sign John Utaka! 🙈🤯

Nixon is a bellend. But of all the hacks, he probably gets more right than most. Having said that, most of our ‘actual’ signings come out of nowhere.

For me, the pertinent clues here are the type of players targeted. We have never (as far as I can remember) targeted experienced Championship players in this window. That tells me that the recruitment is being driven. Fwiw, I reckon the names mentioned so far are probably on ‘the list’ in as much as we’ve made enquiries, but the only reason we know about them is because the players camp are trying to drum up more interest. I’d imagine what we know is the tip of the iceberg…

Anyway, final two pence…in my opinion, there are two things that matter most in this window. 1) That we improve those forward positions and add goals and creativity to give us the best chance of winning games. 2) That we keep the manager happy by giving him what he wants.

At this stage, I’d say keeping the manager happy is most important. This is based on my (most) opinion that he is seriously fuckin talented and currently creating vintage 100yr old red wine out of bog water. So if he wants Denis Irwin, Andy Sinton and Mickey Quinn, give him it!! (This is a joke)

Final point - there’s an uprising of folk sneering at those who are sensibly advocating that our managers decision on players is final. My retort to those is - “Nice one, I appreciate you won the PL with Bromley on Champ manager 9, but I’ll stick with the professionals for now” 👍🏼

Agree with some of that but imo there is a subtle difference between keeping Eustace "happy" and him being forced to pick players of his choice off the C or D list because the budget is virtually non - existent.

Do you think he'd have brought in Sanderson and Forshaw by choice if we had a healthy budget?

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14 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Agree with some of that but imo there is a subtle difference between keeping Eustace "happy" and him being forced to pick players of his choice off the C or D list because the budget is virtually non - existent.

Do you think he'd have brought in Sanderson and Forshaw by choice if we had a healthy budget?

Well he signed Sanderson for Birmingham for Cash after working with him at Qpr and  then on loan at Birmingham 

He then made him captain at Birmingham 

As a most likely fourth choice centre back what where you expecting?As others have said him being part of a team that got relegated doesn't mean he is a bad player..Szmodic ...Brittain 

We need first choice players brought in up front I'd be underwhelmed with Bamford and Wallace, I don't think Wallace is a bad player but we need some speed in forward areas,Sanderson as a 4th choice centre back even 3rd isn't a bad signing 

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