January Transfer window

[roversfan99]

3 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

ok

I think one striker and wide player, then that's us done. 

What point of loaning Danns to to be squad player, Why not just keep Harry Leonard, who I would keep here even if we sign another striker. I'm not in favour of signing someone like Danns as our main striker signing this window. not for me. 

How are Wallace and Bamford best days behind them and what is that based on? 

Leonard isnt ready for Championship level. Would benefit from a loan. And Danns would only be acceptable as a bonus signing on top of a main striker bought, I dont want him to clarify.

Bamford is constantly injured, his body cant seem to sustain itself anymore. There is also a stat that hes missed the most big chances across a number of leagues. His best was a number of years ago when he got an England cap. Obviously he is not anywhere near the same level now. Henis out for another month anyway so it shouldnt even be considered.

Wallace was a brilliant Championship winger for Millwall. Hes gone from a regular at West Brom to a bit part player as age has caught up on him.

Eustace apparently said he wanted cover for Beck yesterday. Not sure if it was BBC Lancashire twitter or Elliott Jackson who reported it.

[BigHoz]

7 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

How are Wallace and Bamford best days behind them and what is that based on? 

Do you think bamford can make the England squad again? His best days are behind him trust me 😂😂

[FE123]

I think we can rule out Brereton and Bamford on finances alone.

Wallace may be astute business but questions need to be asked as to why he has gone from being one of the top performers in the championship to not getting a look in within 12 months, his legs may have gone?  Right wing is a tough position to play if he’s not as mobile as he once was.

[Exiled_Rover]

20 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

We always end up back to people calling out supposed negativity.

And I imagine there isa lot of frustration around because we never have the budget in spite of sales to get what we need to achieve our objectives.

Obviously all of the linked players might be total bollocks, we are discussing the players in question as if we are signing them just to stimulate some conversation.

I'd honestly rather take more chances with our budget on the likes of O'Riordan and Bindon than sign players like Wallace. Don't get me wrong, he was a good Championship player in his time, but he has zero resale value and is on the downside of his career - and he'll be on a fairly good wage too.

I'd much rather speculate on outstanding young L1 / L2 talents and see if they can make the step up. 

[aletheia]

6 hours ago, SuperBrfc said:

What is the point of the recruitment team?

To spend as little as possible.

[davulsukur]

3 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I'd honestly rather take more chances with our budget on the likes of O'Riordan and Bindon than sign players like Wallace. Don't get me wrong, he was a good Championship player in his time, but he has zero resale value and is on the downside of his career - and he'll be on a fairly good wage too.

I'd much rather speculate on outstanding young L1 / L2 talents and see if they can make the step up. 

If we're signing sticking plasters in the likes of Forshaw, Batth, Fadz, Weimann etc. It needs to surely be in conjunction with signing younger players who come in and there is less pressure to go straight in and perform.

Grabbing the best young talent we can from league 1 or 2 seems like a no brainer to me.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

17 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

ok

I think one striker and wide player, then that's us done. 

What point of loaning Danns to to be squad player, Why not just keep Harry Leonard, who I would keep here even if we sign another striker. I'm not in favour of signing someone like Danns as our main striker signing this window. not for me. 

How are Wallace and Bamford best days behind them and what is that based on? 

Well that’s an easy answer - form and injuries 

bamford has played in (to date) approx 80 games in the last 3/4 seasons from 21/22 with 14 goals 6 assists

the same time bracket before hand from 17/18 he played 147 with 53 goals 11 assists 

his injuries continue to mount and his output has massively dropped - shows decline with his age 

Jed Wallace Iv no problem with tbh as he’s constantly available but again his output is dwindling by season but again not against signing him

Bamford for me is the big no no

[roversfan99]

13 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I'd honestly rather take more chances with our budget on the likes of O'Riordan and Bindon than sign players like Wallace. Don't get me wrong, he was a good Championship player in his time, but he has zero resale value and is on the downside of his career - and he'll be on a fairly good wage too.

I'd much rather speculate on outstanding young L1 / L2 talents and see if they can make the step up. 

I think January does require a bit of a short term push but in general our lack of budget leaves us with a shell of a squad because we dont buy anyone. Whether its from this country or abroad.

We are in a mess again in the summer.

[chaddyrovers]

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Leonard isnt ready for Championship level. Would benefit from a loan. And Danns would only be acceptable as a bonus signing on top of a main striker bought, I dont want him to clarify.

I don't agree on your opinion with Leonard. I think he is ready now and I would used him now in the match days squad and yes I would start him on Wednesday. 

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Bamford is constantly injured, his body cant seem to sustain itself anymore. There is also a stat that hes missed the most big chances across a number of leagues. His best was a number of years ago when he got an England cap. Obviously he is not anywhere near the same level now. He is out for another month anyway so it shouldn't even be considered.

I have said I wouldn't sign him based on injuries this season, nothing to do with ability tho. 

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Wallace was a brilliant Championship winger for Millwall. Hes gone from a regular at West Brom to a bit part player as age has caught up on him.

Yes I know he was brilliant winger at Millwall as I always rated him but I still think at the age of 30, he can still play at this level. He started the last game and played roughly 60 mins

9 minutes ago, roversfan99 said:

Eustace apparently said he wanted cover for Beck yesterday. Not sure if it was BBC Lancashire twitter or Elliott Jackson who reported it.

[chaddyrovers]

16 minutes ago, Exiled_Rover said:

I'd honestly rather take more chances with our budget on the likes of O'Riordan and Bindon than sign players like Wallace. Don't get me wrong, he was a good Championship player in his time, but he has zero resale value and is on the downside of his career - and he'll be on a fairly good wage too.

I'd much rather speculate on outstanding young L1 / L2 talents and see if they can make the step up. 

shouldn't we focus on getting a playoff place by bringing in players to help us achieve this then players who we can develop and resale in a couple of season? 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

9 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

shouldn't we focus on getting a playoff place by bringing in players to help us achieve this then players who we can develop and resale in a couple of season? 

But you said we should be playing Leonard. Can’t have it both ways he needs to be developed 

[roversfan99]

We shouldnt be focusing on resale in January but we should be buying players in general to develop.

But if we had money to play with, we would be able to obtain a higher quality of player anyway so youd be killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

[M_B]

37 minutes ago, RevidgeBlue said:

Personally I wouldn't want Bamford or Wallace at all. As Bamford would be very expensive I'd concede that showed ambition albeit completely misguided imo. 

Wallace as a main signing I'd say would be very unambitious. As a straight swap for Sigurdsson to add squad depth I'd be OK with it however.

Brereton I'd be OK with and I'd say it was a fairly ambitious move. All irrelevant until we land any of them though.

No, as always, it's wait and see. I would see the logic in that kind of signing, although I didn't realise Bamford was injured.

[Waggy76]

Let us all see, what happens, my gut feeling is a couple of loans and another freebie.. 

Venkys have never wanted the club to progress.. End of! 

[Ricky]

1 hour ago, chaddyrovers said:

What point of loaning Danns to to be squad player, Why not just keep Harry Leonard

Why sign Zinedine Zidane when we’ve got Tim Sherwood??

In short, I believe Danns is a better player than Leonard. I also believe that he’d come straight into the team and score goals. I’ve spoke to a lot of Liverpool fans who really seem to rate him. I don’t care about his age tbf, just if he’s good enough.  I may be wrong, but I think he is good enough to do well in the Championship. 

[Angry_Pirate]

McFadzean, Garrett, O'Riordan, Leonard, Gilsenan, Sigurdsson, Tyjon should all be moved on (majority loans) this month. I personally like and have hopes for Siggy, but it's not going to happen here.

The current loans are Beck, Sanderson, Cozier-Duberry... meaning we have 2 more "squad" loans left - they need to be the ambition of a Brereton-Diaz or Luis Suarez (lol), and not 2 more teenage projects. 

Striker and Winger of QUALITY, and we could be cooking!

[RoverDom]

9 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Why sign Zinedine Zidane when we’ve got Tim Sherwood??

In short, I believe Danns is a better player than Leonard. I also believe that he’d come straight into the team and score goals. I’ve spoke to a lot of Liverpool fans who really seem to rate him. I don’t care about his age tbf, just if he’s good enough.  I may be wrong, but I think he is good enough to do well in the Championship. 

Same, heard good things about him and he's looked decent in cup games for Liverpool. Seems confident but with a good attitude 

[Ricceh]

Dunno about you guys but I'm still waiting for Akor Adams

[DeeCee]

Just now, Ricceh said:

Dunno about you guys but I'm still waiting for Akor Adams

Just checked but Marcus Madison has retired.

[chaddyrovers]

34 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

But you said we should be playing Leonard. Can’t have it both ways he needs to be developed 

That's cos I rated Leonard alot and he is good enough to start games right now, made an impact right now with goals and performances. 

I wouldn't loan him out

16 minutes ago, Ricky said:

Why sign Zinedine Zidane when we’ve got Tim Sherwood??

In short, I believe Danns is a better player than Leonard. I also believe that he’d come straight into the team and score goals. I’ve spoke to a lot of Liverpool fans who really seem to rate him. I don’t care about his age tbf, just if he’s good enough.  I may be wrong, but I think he is good enough to do well in the Championship. 

On this, we have to agree to disagree on Danns. 

[RevidgeBlue]

14 minutes ago, Angry_Pirate said:

Striker and Winger of QUALITY, and we could be cooking!

Rashford and Toney on loan it is then.

Someone get on the blower to Balaji quick!

There'd be some severe malfunctions of the administrative machinery at Ewood on deadline day if those two deals were in the offing.

Lol.

[Emerald Isle Rover]

6 minutes ago, chaddyrovers said:

That's cos I rated Leonard alot and he is good enough to start games right now, made an impact right now with goals and performances. 

I wouldn't loan him out

On this, we have to agree to disagree on Danns. 

So let me ask you this you have mentioned a lot on this forum that your happy with certain things ‘as Eustace wants it’ so if he’s happy your happy 

Eustace rarely starts Leonard as he doesn’t think he’s ready and is looking a striker in now to allow a loan for him to develop so if Eustace wants that would you not be happy with it?

[alcd]

Probably find that new West Brom manager decides to keep Wallace.

[chaddyrovers]

5 minutes ago, Emerald Isle Rover said:

So let me ask you this you have mentioned a lot on this forum that your happy with certain things ‘as Eustace wants it’ so if he’s happy your happy 

Eustace rarely starts Leonard as he doesn’t think he’s ready and is looking a striker in now to allow a loan for him to develop so if Eustace wants that would you not be happy with it?

Eustace hasn't rushed Leonard back from his shoulder injury he picked in pre season and allow him slowly build his fitness back. Leonard praised Eustace's man management of him. 

Eustace has sung Leonard's praises in the Boro pre match press conference 

I posted a few minutes ago that I would keep Leonard here and play here starting with Portsmouth at home as I think he is ready, rate him highly and I wouldn't loan out. 

 

 

[Emerald Isle Rover]

Just now, chaddyrovers said:

Eustace hasn't rushed Leonard back from his shoulder injury he picked in pre season and allow him slowly build his fitness back. Leonard praised Eustace's man management of him. 

Eustace has sung Leonard's praises in the Boro pre match press conference 

I posted a few minutes ago that I would keep Leonard here and play here starting with Portsmouth at home as I think he is ready, rate him highly and I wouldn't loan out. 

 

 

You didn’t answer my question

if he’s loaned out come the end of the window because Eustace thinks he needs more minutes to develop is Eustace wrong?